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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 01-22-2007, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
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last year i put a dg aftermarket pipe on my 1990 phazer 2. it made the snowmobile alot faster and i love it. but the only problem is that i blew it up. i dont remember the size jets i put in it i just know that they were one size bigger than stock just wondering if thats the right size and maybe i just over reved it or if i need to go one size bigger. btw i know quite a bit about sleds so dont be afraid to use some crazy big words.
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 01-22-2007, 06:58 PM
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After doing a mod like that you need to keep a close eye on your plugs for a while. At least until you're sure the jetting is right. The engine failure could be from a lot of different things. If you went up one size in jetting it probably wasn't because of the pipe.

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i doubt it made it faster...no pipe makes a sled faster just louder and maybe less weight...The amount of power you get from it is like 1-2 horse power you wouldnt even notice it if you wernt told it was piped...

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last year i put a dg aftermarket pipe on my 1990 phazer 2. it made the snowmobile alot faster and i love it. but the only problem is that i blew it up. i dont remember the size jets i put in it i just know that they were one size bigger than stock just wondering if thats the right size and maybe i just over reved it or if i need to go one size bigger. btw i know quite a bit about sleds so dont be afraid to use some crazy big words.[/b]

Yamaha jets go up in 2.5 increments, you should go up 2 sizes when you pipe it.
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i doubt it made it faster...no pipe makes a sled faster just louder and maybe less weight...The amount of power you get from it is like 1-2 horse power you wouldnt even notice it if you wernt told it was piped...[/b]

Um....so like the 15 hp (~25% increase) won't be noticable??!?!?! Right...

The phazers seem to have a problem with a midrange lean spot which unfortuanelty due to the carb choice on these sleds isn't easily solved.

These things can go like crazy with a pipe but you have to be aware of where your at in the jetting and throttle settings. Ride to long in the midrange lean area and your egt's are going to spike.

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I think he misconstrued a Pipe with a Can-
A Pipe will make HP and a Can will just make noise.

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Um....so like the 15 hp (~25% increase) won't be noticable??!?!?! Right...

The phazers seem to have a problem with a midrange lean spot which unfortuanelty due to the carb choice on these sleds isn't easily solved.

These things can go like crazy with a pipe but you have to be aware of where your at in the jetting and throttle settings. Ride to long in the midrange lean area and your egt's are going to spike.[/b]
maybe you should get it dynoed then ill listen to you...like i said their isnt much of a gain imight be a little low but the most i have ever herd of is 7 hp...which is nothing when you have a 120 hp sled...wouldnt notice it... a clutch kit would be a much better choice for the money.

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Actualy paint ball I put a AAEN pipe on my Phazer and it made a huge difference..On a Phazer you can add a AAEN pipe, Reeds and a cold air in take and the HP will go from 57 up to 78 Hp..It has been tested on the Dynos I don't remember what snowmobile magazine had that articile. My Phazer would top out at 84 mph with the pipe I see 93 MPH on the speedo of course..Not bad for a 1992 longtrack, with 8,000 miles on it and a 230 pound guy driving...
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i ended up going to my local shop and asking and he said to go with 155 jets so im going to try that so hopfully he is right and no more problems. btw i dont care what anyone says putting a aftermarket pipe on it made the max speed go from roughly 90mph to over 100mph top speed (not on a dyno or anything just from riding and watching the speedo) and it made it sound better to
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i ended up going to my local shop and asking and he said to go with 155 jets so im going to try that so hopfully he is right and no more problems. btw i dont care what anyone says putting a aftermarket pipe on it made the max speed go from roughly 90mph to over 100mph top speed (not on a dyno or anything just from riding and watching the speedo) and it made it sound better to[/b]

I think your spedo is off. Probably by at least 10 mph.

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