Anyone drop that 809 into an S-2000? I wanted to ask Don some questions but can't find his email address.

way to go rocketman!!! (If you're really going to do it, and I don't see why you couldn't)

Well the site is back up but there is no email. *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Rocketman the s-2000 and the f-2000 are the same chassis.
A tripple will bolt right in, you can even use stock pipe's from a 97 machz, they have be tweaked alittle but they will fit. Jaws also make's pipe's for the S-tripple and you have to run air filter's there is no room for a air box. Best to put the 800 tripple in the Zx chassis!

Yeah..the problem is that I don't have a ZX http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif *I think it would be cool to show up next year with a sleeper like that! Maybe I will even put 440 sickers on it! Tell me more about these Jaws pipes for the S-tripple?

i tried to put a 97 form 3 600 into a 98 form 600 its not that easy wireing all dif. needed to grind down motor mounts, fill and re drill pain in the A$$. i would have to say have fun!

Rocketman what doo you need to know about the jaw's pipes?
Tripples into seperate canisters.
there not to loud.
I thing they list for $1200.00 cnd.

I had a look on their website...the dyno numbers are good, but I don't want to spin the engine at 9000+ rpm. I want a set that will still give me decent torque off the bottom. Are the stock pipes that bad? I wasn thinking of crankshop as an alternative to stock... What I want here is a trail-able triple that will kick the snot out of everybody on the lake....(The age old challenge..I know I know... *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif )



Folgers: What wiring did you have to do? I assumed that all the connections would be relatively the same since the only thing changing is the engine.... *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

This would be kind of a summer project....just an idea I am tossing around http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

i was going from a f 2000 i think or s 2000 to a ck 3 they are much difrent all the wireing was i took the handle bars off with all the wires on re did every wire on it and had to splice the headlight to get the 2 lights on the ck 3 i also had to do a couple motor mods to make it fit for the clutch to pull a line.

Oh yeah...but I am going from a F-2000 to an S-2000....

Would I have those same problems if I bought a newer (CK3) engine and tried to put it in the S-2000 I wonder? http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

I bet you would since the f2000 to ck3 did. What I would do is find a deal on an older 800 triple so you would know that it should fit well.

rocket *go to a on line micro ( fish ) page and check part #s and a newer ck 3 would have the same problem why wouldnt it? the problem i had was the bottom *of the motor and the water pump, also the hose for that pump that runs under the motor.
on the ck3 the pump comes out and does a 90 degree down and on the f 2000 it came straight out. i had the motor in and out about 30 times, and a lot of grinding. if you dont have air tools beware

'97 mach's have the pump outlet pointing straight out, I have done many swaps, you need to look at a few diffrent years to figure out the wireing differences but it is not very difficult. Do the swap it is a fun sled!! I have done two of them (809 f to s chassis) for customers. One w/ crank shop pipes, one w/ jaws. call greg at jaws he will prob. build you a set of his lower RPM pipes (8800 rpm) they work great.

If your interested, I might know where's there's a 99 ZX body that's sitting with nothing in it in SE Sask...I wanna see this thing when your done, I'm also in Saskatoon..

yeah....I would probably be looking at an F - S swap....97 into 97 to avoid the issues Folgers mentioned. It's good to see so many guys who are experienced in this kind of thing....if it ever get's off the ground I wil be calling on you guys for sure!

Rotax_Kid.....I would like to hear more about this ZX you have lying around....pricewise and generally more information....that could add a twist to the whole project.... http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif Could be some ground-breaking R+D..... http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Rocketman
* The swap is fairlly easy,i have done a few.I have found Jaws pipes work excellent and fit like a glove,however you do have to modify or remove one inside bumper bracket run k&n filters and change carb cable to triple cable.Stock 96-97 pipes will work if you cut and bend outer pipe to fit(bend inward mag pipe)all triple engines &cdi will fit together until 98 then you have to use 98 engine with that year cdi as they changed to dess.style 98and up.Also have to change to triple fuel pump,use motor plate from triple also.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *good luck these sleds rock set up this way you'll see. * * greygoat

Rocketman
* i forgot to mention a outfit in Ontario is oferring a swap kit for the triple into a zx chassis,they are called Bondi engine works if i remember right,they use Jaws pipes for the kit so call Greg at Jaws for there number
* * * * * * * * * *greygoat

OK so can someone give me the whole list of parts that I need from the Mach to make it go? So far I know I need the

engine,
clutches(or will the 670 clutches work??)
carbs.
steering post
pipes of some sort
cone filters (Most likely would buy Kickass filters)

fill the holes for me boys....'cause that is the extent of my knowledge.

Will my chaincase work? how about any reinforcements to the bulkhead?

Greygoat you mentioned that I will need to remove a bumper bracket.....would that compromise the integrity of the nose of the sled? I do still want to feel safe on the tight trails....also:

Do I need to coat the pipes to keep the hood from melting?
Are there any major electrical mods that have to be done?
What do I need as far as the cooling system?

I really don't know much about the triple engine, but I need to know what I will need in case I come across a wrecked Mach or something....

I personally don't have one lying around, but I'll do some digging this weekend and see what I can find..heading out to the hill climb in Duck Mountain this weekend?

I wish. Looks like a term paper calling me this weekend. Wanted to hit the Swan Plain Poker Derby on sunday...there are snocross races in Swan River on saturday...that would have been cool too http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Rocketman
* * * * *Your best bet is to find a complete triple sled up to 97 as this will pobably be the cheapest route, then you just swap the engines andwhatever else you need. You will not have to cover the Jaws pipes with anything as they fit perfect and make big power in whatever size triple you put in.If you mod the stock pipes to fit you will have to cover mag side pipe with wrap.The steering post has to be changed to the triple one and you wiil have to modify the post mounting bracket to fit yours,this is very easy to do.We always remove the injection tank and go to pre-mix just as a weight deal but you can keep yours if you wish,as for the bumber bracket it does not seem to affect the strength but you can make one to come under the pipe.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you have anymore questions let me know * Greygoat *chaincase &bulkhead are exactly the same as yours.

Rocketman, I have a complete single pipe set up out of a CK-3 Formulalll 800 for sale if you cant get the triple's to work.

Rocketman.. -I gave you a call last week, but couldn't get a hold of you, rode all the way up to Saturday, went North for two days, plaed in teh hills for the other 4...Suppossidly a guy from 'toon is going out to Duck with a PSI that's bigger than 1K...Hmm...

I am also putting in an 800 in a 98 MXZx chassis. *Those of you that know, *Is there a problem with the 98 and up motors with the pump in these chassis'? *I have a 98 that I already sunk money into that I planned to use!

So far, the only thing I need for the install now is the motor mounts plates and the pipes........ http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif