Because they claim 150 HP? Nope, my mach has around 170.
Because they claim it'll do over 130? Nope, Because I really believe my mach will beat it.
Because it's pretty? Nope, I think my mach looks cooler.
Because I think it will outhandle an MX, XC or ZR? Nope, I really don't care if it will stay on their ###'s in the tight and twisties (I do think it will be respectable).

I ordered this sled because of the technology!

I ordered it because it's a 4-stoke.

Think of it, no more worries about jetting or fouled plugs, or do I have enough injector oil to make it back. (No oil worries at all because I changed it before I came up) Does the party store sell the brand of injector oil I use? It's How much per quart earl? $10.00! (the toothless 45 year old party store clerk replies) It's not that much at home I say, "you ain''t home sonny" he replies again.
Lookng at your gas gauge and thinking to yourself; Uh oh, I have ridden 60 miles, better start looking for gas, compared to going 180 miles and then starting to look. Not worrying if you are really pumping premium or watered down sludge,(87 for the RX-1 vs. 91 or higher for my mach) Hate to have a meltdown miles from the motel like Bob did yesterday, good thing he brought up his spare everest.
Allowing the sled to idle at night so your buddy can see while he tries to figure out what plug fouled on his 2-stroke (for the third time in an hour) while you don't have a concern about your plugs or having to keep reving it to brighten things up.

Do I like the sound of the RX-1, well, truth be told, It''s AWESOME! Can''t wait to call Vance and Hines.


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mightymach,
i think you will love that thing and yes all the reasons are there, no more to be mentioned.

Mightymach, I don't blame you at all, if I was ordering a sled next year that is what I would buy.The only thing I would do is put a 136 in track. *But I have to keep mine for another couple years. *My father inlaw is buying one, he is getting the red one, what colour are you getting.

You don't have to explain yourself to anybody. *At this point, it looks like this sled and others like it to follow could save this sport. *There is big talk about how a 2 stroke can make a cleaner machine than a 4 but so far.... *unless we race I'll tell you that my MXZ will beat your Mach! * *Talk is cheap.

I give Yamaha all the credit in the world and if I had the cash right now I'd strongly consider one myself. *Almost luckily for me I don't, so I get to see what the other manufacturers counter with. *

I have much more respect for Yamaha now, I don't care where they are made. *Buying American or Canadian won't mean squat if we can't ride them anywhere.

you sound like a very optimistic person.

I might be pesimistic but I would wait to see it on the snow first.

I just cant understand why you ordered one so fast when next month bombardier will unleash there new machines. *Who knows maybe bombardier will have a 4 cylinder 4 stroke with turbo or somthing. *And you can bet styling will be much greater then yamaha. *

I dont think there will be any bugs on this yamaha because its a proven engine and they had 4 years to see if the chassie is worth anything so there probably wont be bugs. *

It sure is a cool machine but im going to wait another few years before i buy or even look at anything else.

Color you ask? *I'm a sucker for Yamaha blue, besides it'll match my quad. *However, I do want to see the red in person.Why did I order now? *To be sure I get one. *I'm really tight with my dealer that also sells Ski-doo and he assured me that if ski-doo pulls something to upstage Yamaha I can switch my order over. Besides, he allowed me to order with $0 down, so tell me what I have to lose?

Actually i think it might be real nice to have a melody of different sounds coming down the trail, screamers and thumpers.

Yeah but unlike other snowmobiles this new melody is aimed right at the rider behind you. *I think this sled is going to be louder then a 2 stroke. *Plus the exhaust is aimed right out the back. *

But man it looks cool. *

Mightymach. Have a little faith in skidoo. *I read your post and you sound well set up at your dealer but I really think that this yamahas fire will be extinguished with what ever bombardier comes out with.

Mightymach I have one question? 180 miles on one tank , did you drive one to see that this makes 3 times the gas millage of your sled.

Let me remember before I switched to Ski doo about 10 years ago I had to replace my drive chain on my 5000km yamaha venture *it cost me 185.00 cdn yes 185 my eyes almost popped out when the dealer told me . I put the thing back together the next *day and traded it for a doo. Just to let you know that yam parts are very expensive. http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I'm waiting to see how much for insurance on them. *Also any kind of thief device? * I'll admit it is a very nice sled.

The Yamaha 4-stroke will not be louder than our present 2 cycles, unless of course those two mufflers facing out the rear are hollow *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

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If any one wants *one you'd better hurry up and order as they are going faster than any other sled in years past. I checked my mail from yam @ 2am and immediatly proceded to call my dealers answering machine. 2 for me,blue and red will make me smile. *I'm glad I didn't buy that xc700 on tuesday now. I'll be real pissed if I have to travel 600 or more miles for snow next year.

P.S. ZMachMan *has anyone been able to beat you yet this season?
Caleb

4 strokes still have carbs and jets, if i remember correctly, they come jetted lean to keep emissions down, I'm sure you'll have to re-jet it for easier starting and better (smoother)carburetion. *I still for some unforsaken reason think that this new 4 stroke if widely successful, has just hastened the death of my beloved two strokes..... http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Hey, kid rocker, this is the "watch Machzzz1 try to convince everybody to buy Doo 2-stroke sleds and keep 4-strokers out of the industry" forum.
* * I am just yanking your chain, Machzzz1. It is actually good to see someone so passionate about his choice in machines.

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I personally have owned AC, Skidoo now I ride Yamaha and I have to say that yamaha's are my choice. I think that just the savings in inject. oil, *I run KLOTZ and at $27/gal x 6 gal./season would be enough reason to buy the RX-1. One thing bothers me though, How can you take a 1000cc 4CYL 4 STROKE engine put it into a sled with an updated/advanced suspension and all the other goodies and (ONLY) charge $500 more for it than a 700cc 3CYL 2 STROKE? Dont go off on me everyone im not trying to piss in anyones wheaties just my thoughts on the matter.

I think that Yamaha is selling the RX-1 at a very low profit margin. *If it ends up being the sled I believe it will, you'll see higher pricing down the road.

mightymach,
*just the maintence and the gas mileage is the reason to go. *i am not ready yet but i can see one in my future when i will want a four stroker. some are saying that a 4 stroke won't rev like a 2 stroke but my last motorcycle was a 1977 kawasaki 1000 ltd and if i remember its revs were in the 8 to 10 grand range.

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1st off, this engine will most likely be bullet proof. *But yes, if it did go it would be expensive to repair, which is why I am strongly considering the addional 4 year warranty for a total of 5 years for $500.00. *Of all the street bikes I have owned, I have never had an engine related problem which is why I'm so excited about the RX-1!

skidood,
*you're right big loot to fix but not even within this time zone will the likelihood of a problem arise. my 4 stroke cycles never gave a seconds motor trouble, i have owned two 2 stroker cycles and you already know because you're not stupid how much engine trouble aroused me.

I think I will give a few months on the trail. *And if my M-10 slides in & the front is easy to beef up. *I'll be getting one too.

I live in the North ( far north ) where we've seen -30 to -54 windchills, and I see a lot of RX-1's in this area now. As far as cold weather starting goes,not a problem!
Just a simple "turn of the key" and away you go on Yamaha 4-stroke technology.
I've seen them with 15000kms on them with a "flawless" performance. You are doing good if you get 15000kms on a 2-stroke with no problems though!

Now as far as the sound of the RX-1's,have you ever stood near the R-1 bike when the driver "cracked" the throttle??
If so, you know what I'm talking about when I simply say "AWESOME"!!!!!!!
Imagine it,a street bike engine in an awesome looking sled,with 4-stroke dependibility and fuel economy,what more could you ask for??
Think about it!!
1997 vmax

Who the he!! is this 'MightyMach' guy anyways...???

:D

Originally posted by The Hossman@Feb 10 2004, 12:08 AM
Who the he!! is this 'MightyMach' guy anyways...???

:D
One awesome Dude!

Dang, that post was almost 2 years ago...............

4 strokes still have carbs and jets, if i remember correctly, they come jetted lean to keep emissions down, I'm sure you'll have to re-jet it for easier starting and better (smoother)carburetion.* I still for some unforsaken reason think that this new 4 stroke if widely successful, has just hastened the death of my beloved two strokes.....

I have been highly involved with 4 stroke quads for the last 14 years and drive the winter groomed quad trails we have here. As for rejetting, not required and they work/start just as well in -30 to +30. Did you ever rejet a carb on a car for winter use? I would like to add, the quads are shipped from mostly the States and are sent to Florida or Alaska with the same jetting. The only exception to the rule is high altitude locations where the dealer will re-jet and re-clutch above 6000ft.

Originally posted by Machzzzz1@Jan 18 2002, 10:31 AM
Yeah but unlike other snowmobiles this new melody is aimed right at the rider behind you. *I think this sled is going to be louder then a 2 stroke. *
Louder than a 2 stroke? Apparently you haven't heard one huh? It's not even close to as loud at a 2 stroke from the factory. Nevermind one that has aftermarket pipes and a can on it.

My dealer just sent out a sale flyer-he has an 04 RX-1 LE for sale-part of the winter clearance with his spring stock coming in-$6999 USD with 0 miles on it. If you want more info, PM me. He's got a bunch of other sleds for sale too-mostly Poos.

When I bought the RX-1, I bought the Y.E.S. additional 4 years-just for peace of mind-haven't used any warranty service yet.

One thing, if I had it to do again, I would spring for the extra bucks for reverse. It's heavy when it's sitting still. Not on the trail.

None of the guys I ride with has ever complained about the exhaust pipes on my sled-everyone thinks it's cool and sounds great. I'm the only one complaining-if I'm not leading, I'm smelling that stink. Never noticed it when I rode 2 strokes......

btw, Blue is the only color to go with, though HonksRx1 has a red one that's real pretty...........

Originally posted by spikegary@Feb 10 2004, 12:30 PM
btw, Blue is the only color to go with, though HonksRx1 has a red one that's real pretty...........
You finally wrote something I disagree with. Black is the way to go Baby!

definetly not running on the rx1,,,,,I love the sound and the looks, but I do have a question,,,,, it was stated in this post (2 years ago), that you could go 180 mile without starting to look for gas. how far do you actually drive now before starting to look for gas?????

It depends how you drive, just like any other gas powered vehicle.
But, I wouldn't count on going 180 miles even under the best trail conditions that we see in Saskatchewan (Warrior). I count on about 16-18 mpg.
As an example my group did 350 hard kms on Sat. I got 2 mpg. better than REV6 sdi, 3 mpg better than 04 Viper (and we won't talk about the other 4).
Just my obsevation, but whenever I see guys posting 20+mpg on any sled (RX, sdi, T660) it tells me that their trails are like highways and they don't drive like I do.

I have never gone more than 100. That's because I don't ride by myself and have to stop for my buddies :D

I averaged 16.2 for the first 350 miles on my Warrior on my most recent trip. Keep in mind that I was running K&N's with 165 mains instead of the stock airbox with 135 mains.

konkinj,

I agree with you regarding the trail conditions in most of Sask, but I do ride with a fellow that has a T660 short track and he does average 20mpg, best was about 22mpg. The type of riding that we do is not easy with most open areas being 3/4-WOT. When we ride together my T-Cat is at the 12~14 mpg, with 800efi's in the 14~15, and the lone 600 SDI is near the 20 mark. They do not go 180tank either but they do fill up when we do, and take less $$ to fill than we do.

I am not trying to start anything. Just letting you know what I have experienced first hand. Has me rethinking the purchase of a F7, and the purchase of a SDI or T660.

Northern Rider, I shouldn't have included the T660 in my post. I have seen them on the trails here, but I haven't riden with one (oooops!). I have no doubt that they are most likely the most fuel efficient sled made, period.
My point was directed at guys who have posted 20+ (and somethimes 25) miles per US GALLON. I just can't imagine the conditions under which ANY sled can do this.

I'm averaging about 15 MPG. But, that includes idle time, tight trails and blasts across fields, rarely do I get to keep it any one speed for any length of time.

Ok Mighty-

And the Black one's are beautiful too!!!!

We back on track now?

Originally posted by spikegary@Feb 11 2004, 12:45 PM
Ok Mighty-

And the Black one's are beautiful too!!!!

We back on track now?
if you're talking real black like for 04 we are :D

I have a 2004 Warrior and i'll just say this call your insurance broker now and make sure your sitting down. oh and fuel economy-- with over 800 miles i am getting 12 mpg.

Originally posted by MightyMach@Jan 17 2002, 09:43 PM
Because they claim 150 HP? Nope, my mach has around 170.
Because they claim it'll do over 130? Nope, Because I really believe my mach will beat it.
Because it's pretty? Nope, I think my mach looks cooler.
Because I think it will outhandle an MX, XC or ZR? Nope, I really don't care if it will stay on their ###'s in the tight and twisties (I do think it will be respectable).

I ordered this sled because of the technology!

I ordered it because it's a 4-stoke.

Think of it, no more worries about jetting or fouled plugs, or do I have enough injector oil to make it back. (No oil worries at all because I changed it before I came up) Does the party store sell the brand of injector oil I use? It's How much per quart earl? $10.00! (the toothless 45 year old party store clerk replies) It's not that much at home I say, "you ain''t home sonny" he replies again.
Lookng at your gas gauge and thinking to yourself; Uh oh, I have ridden 60 miles, better start looking for gas, compared to going 180 miles and then starting to look. Not worrying if you are really pumping premium or watered down sludge,(87 for the RX-1 vs. 91 or higher for my mach) Hate to have a meltdown miles from the motel like Bob did yesterday, good thing he brought up his spare everest.
Allowing the sled to idle at night so your buddy can see while he tries to figure out what plug fouled on his 2-stroke (for the third time in an hour) while you don't have a concern about your plugs or having to keep reving it to brighten things up.

Do I like the sound of the RX-1, well, truth be told, It''s AWESOME! Can''t wait to call Vance and Hines.


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No need to explain yourself to others. Only those feeling guilty do that. :D Your no more fouled plugs made me laugh. My buddies RX 1 has fouled 2 sets. Dealer didn't stock them the first time it happened. Fuel economy aint much better. His sled maybe uses 4-5 litres of fuel less than mine on a trip. Enjoy it though.

Yamwarrior-

I just sent you a PM ref. insurance.

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Rob,

Iwonder why he fouled plugs. Was something out of adjustment? I have the original plugs in mine, never a problem. And 15 MPG isn't great, but it's a lot better than my Wildcat 700 got-50 miles and I was starting to plan the next gas stop.

Originally posted by MightyMach@Jan 17 2002, 09:43 PM


Think of it, no more worries about jetting or fouled plugs
That's the reason why I bought an EFI Cat.

Originally posted by rob7374@Feb 12 2004, 05:54 PM
No need to explain yourself to others. Only those feeling guilty do that. :D Your no more fouled plugs made me laugh. My buddies RX 1 has fouled 2 sets. Dealer didn't stock them the first time it happened. Fuel economy aint much better. His sled maybe uses 4-5 litres of fuel less than mine on a trip. Enjoy it though.
Explain to your buddy that once the sled starts he can cut the choke to 1/2, let it run there for a few seconds and then shut it completely off. The only issues I have ever heard with an RX-1 fouling plugs is because of using the choke too long.

As far as milage goes, I averged 9 with my 99 mach Z :tongue: .

I really wonder what the actual milage is on a four stroke in compaison to a 2 stroke. I know the 4 stroke will be better but the fiqures in mpg mentioned are sounding a little to high. The worst I have seen so far is 16mpg and even this will net you 160 miles on a 10 gallon tank. 25mpg, I seriously doubt anyone is getting 250miles to the tank.

I have a friend who has two 2004 RX1's. I haven't talked to him lately but at first he told me he was getting 18-19 mpg's, that is canadian. I talked to my ex-girlfriend who drives with them and she said she burnt $25, with a 2003 edge-x 600, another guy burnt $30 with a mach-z, and my friend with the two rx1's burnt $38 between the two. So i guess they are pretty good on gas.

I just love the idea of the longevity the machine offers on top of mileage, quiet, no more injector oil & running 87 octane fuel.

Mighty what the heck are you doing trying to deceive these guys as you bought 03RX1 over a year ago and now have an 04 Warrior. You are something else guess the guys at TY will get a kick hearing about this one. :devil: