HEre is a dodge cummins dually running . ITs best run of the day was 14.5sec . In this run he forgot to turn his fuel controller on

A pic of a nice Ram burnout

another

so as not to stray to much from the other topic,I started this one. at the link you'll find another site with a link to readers riggs. it shows pic of truck and other various pics incluing the e.t. slip from a drag strip showing the 13.50 et @102 mph.now for someone familiar with the cummins dodge thats not uncommon.I have seen many faster than that truck,it shows only 497 hp there are much higher hp cummins out there and they have and do run in the 12's,I would be willing to bet they could beat the this ford with s.c while pulling a 2 place trailer maybe even a 4 loaded. now these may seem like bold claims but one thing to remember the TDR has runs all over the u.s. and there will be the heavy hitters.I have beat many newer 'stangs as well as camaros with my old 97 dodge. I thought I was hot stuff till i stuck it on a chassis dyno at the tdr run in st. louis mo. I was humbled very fast with a 264 hp 670 lbs torque @rw.the next guy up hit 400 + and over 1000 lbs right behind me.the best part he pulled a 35 ft. fifth wheel to the track and got 19 mpg doing it.so like I stated in the other post I welcome the ford guys to the track and prove the claims.I might even give him or her,a truck head start just to make sure they can see the lights thru the smoke :p . no hard feeling I hope :thumbsup: .I welcome proof of the claims,because if you can prove it I will be first to tell you thats a fine runner. and perm my truck ran 14.54,I would post the slip but when I sold truck to bud slips went with it. http://www.diesel-central.com

its the featured rig as well. :thumbsup:

Barry, I for one would have never believed you could do that with one of those trucks...good job...I always love it when the underdog, or sleeper, surprises the $h1t out of people. But you have to admit, there's something wrong with the world when a big truck in that kind of trim whoops up on a Mustang, like the one in that video. :0: :p

Barry I split the last topic and merged it with this one as I started to stray off topic ;) Good idea starting a fresh thread. My CTD is bone stock,(turbo ring MIA) but I recently contacted Piers Diesel Research in Abbotsford,BC about getting a TST fuel plate and 3K govenor springs. This would bring my detuned cummins up to approx 235+hp and 600+ft/lbs or about the same as your 97. This is only stage one for these trucks as there are guy pushing over 700+HP

Another ;)

Dodge burnout :thumbsup:

Two dodges at the lights. I would be intimidated by the smoke from the white truck
:0: :devil:

i thought the only way to get a dodge too smoke like that was to light em on fire!! :p :0: :nervous: :sly:

What track is that at?

well i dont have a diesel but i do have the hemi.. so what should i exspect for times in the 1/4..... its a 3/4 2003

Do any of you diesel guys run the Banks aftermarket stuff or the Bully Dog propane kits? I have seen them on TV, just wondered how they perform on the track. I would never think of a diesel truck running those times.

In regard to the downloadable attachment, I LOVE THE SOUND OF THAT RAM!! Wow, never realized it before but a big dodge diesel can really move!

Those other dodge burnout pictures are really amazing, i saved all of them to my computer. Those dodges have power! :D





SWRules

Originally posted by XCR583@May 17 2003, 09:23 PM
Do any of you diesel guys run the Banks aftermarket stuff or the Bully Dog propane kits? I have seen them on TV, just wondered how they perform on the track. I would never think of a diesel truck running those times.
I ran the banks set-up on my 97 ram diesel.rearwheel power was in the 260+hp and torque was 675lbs..I have seen the bullydog propane on a few trucks.I have not ran it myself as I think its not needed at least yet.the propane works and works well,bonus to the power is less smoke as it helps complete combustion.I would recommend banks power packs on any diesel, as it does not void manufacturers warrantee either.basically on the 97 ram it went from 135 rwhp to 264-267 and 335 lbs torque to 675,all while still covered by cummins. now those that did not know that is why I am so sweet on my diesels :inlove: .:thumbsup:

Dooman , who says it does NOT void warranty, as even the TST plate designed by a cummins engineer voids warranty. Yes I doo realize that it can be argued that the part involved did not cause the problem but what a nightmare situation to be in. That is why i waited till warranty was over to bomb. Nothing lost. This is from the TDR....



Warranty Coverage?
Warranty coverage and additional performance via aftermarket upgrades: Is there a black-and-white answer to the delimma?
You hear the sermon in each issue of the TDR: performance modifications to increase the output of the engine put your rights to warranty consideration in jeopardy. Notice the careful wording of the above statement. Just as in the previous response to “Propane Performance,” close consideration of the failed part is necessary in assessing whether the part is a defect in material and workmanship (warranty) or the responsibility of the customer.

As we often think this question of warranty coverage is unique only to the TDR audience, it is good to remove the blinders occasionally. The following is from syndicated radio and newspaper correspondents Ray and Tom Magliozzi’s Car Talk. They are responding to a customer that purchased a Dodge Dakota truck with the 3.9 liter V-6 engine. Does the correspondence sound familiar?

I would like to make some minor modifications to the engine to increase the horsepower, but I’m not sure if these modifications are worth the time and money. Plus, I don’t want to do anything to damage the engine in the process. The modifications I am considering are as follows: installing a K&N air filter and possibly charger; installing a high-performance exhaust system such as a Flowmaster; installing high-performance spark plugs along with new wires and distributor cap, and replacing the stock computer chip with a performance chip. I also saw something about getting extra horsepower by replacing the gear on the cooling fan. Any advice you could give me regarding these modifications would be greatly appreciated. – Jeff

Tom: On behalf of DaimlerChrysler, I’d like to inform you that upon installation of any of these devices, your warranty is completely null and void.

Ray: As it should be. Everything you mention would give you more power – some more than others – but they would also work the engine harder and, therefore, wear it out faster. And if I were Dodge, I wouldn’t want to pay for your cracked cylinder head under these circumstances, either.

Tom: If you were that keen on more power, you should have opted for the 4.7-liter V-8 engine that’s available on the Dakota. For an extra thousand bucks (probably less than you’d spend on all these add-ons), you’d have an extra 60 horsepower and your warranty intact.

perm,from gale banks and the buddy that does the cummins warrantee work in this area.he works in his own shop not for dodge dealer.the tst plate your refering too,what does it do?,turns up fuel right? without an increase in air flow this leads to higher than stock egt readings as well.with the Banks cummins kit in place egts were not over 900 even pulling a load it only crept up to 1000 a couple times.cummins ships the isb in marine trim putting out 300 hp and 800 lbs torque,how do they do that by freeing up air ,not fuel.having done the plate prior to the banks kit I can verify that it will increase egt's,were as the banks does not.after installing the plate I called banks,it was then I discovered (because he told me)I had found power but in the wrong way ,in a way that would drop reliability.which after talking with him and finding out why he thought that,I dropped the plate and got his kit,no regrets either.yes more power with more fuel but at what expense,you have to increase the airflow as well.that is when you'll find the dodge components will leave much to be desired.basically what my cummins mechanic told me as well as banks,is that cummins would ship the motor with that kind of power stock but dodges intake system does not flow well enough to make that kind of power and do so reliably(while keeping egts low enough).

Barry, thanxs alot for the reply. I was looking at my exhaust the other day and noticed a few rust holes showing through. I think it is time for a 4"inch exhaust with a 5 inch stainless tip. I am no diesel expert but have read countless articles on the TDR involving the torque fuel plate, from what i can gather the TST does the same job but at a fraction of the price. IT seems to be the choice for the majority of TDR bombers. The TST plate selectively richens fueling vs. rpm to control egt. They also include a boost control to raise turbo boost levels to burn the extra fuel efficiently.
HEre is a link to the TST info. TST (http://www.dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/more_power/power_p7100.htm)

Cummins offers a kit that puts out the same power as the TST one that I want but charges $2500.00 for it and it voids drivetrain warranty. The reason I only want the stage one kit is for everyday drivability and also I am not ready to Beef the tranny yet...

and they say our 2 stroke sleds r hard on the atmostphere...... ???

perm,I doo however want to clerify(sp?) something ,I am not saying the mods will not void dodges warr. on the remaining drivetrain components ,just that cummins will back the engine.I hope this caused no problems ??? .the 97 I had only had v-body mods to the trans the rest was as shipped from dodge,I had no problems with it. my best friend still has it last I knew it was on 114,000 miles with no tranny problems yet.he does however pull a trailer regular with it and he seems to think its getting close to time,to replace the tranny that is.one thing I never mentioned was the turbo housing in the banks kit,it alows the turbo to build pressure faster than the stock component,which in turn is more hp and torque in the lower engine speeds,this does not hurt reliabilty none just taps into un-used power.

Thanks Perm and dooman, that is exactly what I was looking for, some real world results and pros and cons of the add ons. I would like to get a diesel as my next truck. Would like to see something smaller though like a Dakota though. Dont need the big Ram!

Originally posted by XCR583@May 20 2003, 04:15 PM
Would like to see something smaller though like a Dakota though. Dont need the big Ram!
that might be a problem,here in the states anyhow.the heavy truck market is not under the strict stipulations (emmisions)that light trucks and cars must follow.however the jeep liberty will be on the market with diesel power in 04,maybe early 05.as they clean them up a little you'll see the switch.I for one will take diesel over gas anyday.the fuel savings alone is worth it. :inlove:

Ya Perm had talked about the Liberty and was hoping that it being a Daimler-Benz Chrysler product, I hoped the engine could go in the Dakota someday. I got a year of school to go and a house to buy and a "New Sled" before I buy a new truck, so I got some time. Or May have to settle for a used Ram.