we can give thanks to REVRND for the reason i thought of this. it could be something like his lists of trails and places to stay in ontario.

the ski-doo dealer i like to deal with is CAN-DO sports in Burgesville/Salford and the phone number is 519-424-2163. "i think these people are the best"

there is another close ski-doo dealer called Lockharts sports. they are in courtland phone them at 519-688-3278. i have not heard bad about them.

In Fort Wayne I use Schnelker Marine. Vern Schnelker was mechanic of the year for Polaris. In Gaylord, use Extreme Powersports. They take care of us and are fair on costs.

Birchpoint Marine Jeff&Leo there a cat dealer and are quite sincere,If I ever switched from poo I would go there in a flash.(Bobcaygeon Ont.)(705-738-2473)

In southern IL, I use Holzhauer Pro Motorsports. They handle Yahaha and Artic Cat. They're pretty good to work with, and I've never had an issue with service or price. 1-888-276-2628 or email info@holzhauers.com

http://www.holzhauers.com/pms/

For a dealer so far south (one hour SE of St. Louis, MO, USA) they do a lot of sled business.

In Maine I use Kramers Arctic Cat in sydney about 5 miles outside the Capitol of Augusta.Eric kramer basically runs it and is very honest down to earth owner will get you on the trails as soon as possible.Good Familey business thats run the way there supposed to be run the customer is always right unless the business has a better alternative :D :p :p

My next new Cat will definetaly be from there!!!!!!!!!!!

While in the UP, Cynthia and Tony at Munising MotorSports are the greatest. Have been doing biz with them for the last 3 yrs now....all around great place. They know their business, don't charge an arm and a leg, and will "work you in" for emergencies, as long as your not unreasonable.

Closer to home, TripleE Sales (http://www.tripleesales.com) is where my sled goes for tuning or major servicing issues. These guys are among the best. Small town operation, but they have the experience to back up their work. They are also very reasonable, and more concerned about doing the job right than "making the sale". They know their name is going to be linked to their work, so they do great work.

Another great guy to deal with is Tim Lockwood at Performance Motorsports, in Ft Wayne, Indiana (perfmoto@comcast.net). I bought my pipes from him, and he went WAAAYYY beyond what most people would consider normal service to help me get them set up. Plus he gave me a heck of a price on the pipes to start with. This guy CALLED ME when I was on my first trip with my pipes, to see how things were going. If you're in IN or southern MI, I would recommend contacting him for any performance help. Last I knew, he was building a mobile dyno that he will take to the shows and races.

Forgot to mention, one that I will never spend another $ with is Nielsen's in Chicago. Salesman was great, but the owner and service dpt are not service oriented. More concerned about being the biggest than anything else, IMHO.

Lewiston Motorsports. Mark, Carol and Ed are great people.

2 Wheel motorsport in Guelph, have dealt with them for about 15 years, not once have they mistreated me.

Leatherdale marine in orillia i think is the best place. I also use royal distributing in barrie.







SWRules

I know who I DON'T go to around here. First name BIG, second name WAY. The rest are all good.

Action Motosport in Vaudreuil Quebec. 450-510-5100. Honest people who really Doo care. :D

Sorry Jtkennedy9, I live in Gaylord and Extreme's prices are 20% higher than normal on just about everything. They do have really good inventory and really good sales on gear at the end of the year (usually 50%). They definately will not deal on prices for sleds or dirtbikes though. I usually deal with Lakes and Trail in Kalkaska, they have their moments but seem to be very easy to deal with if something goes wrong. I have been really happy with Birdssnowsports in White Cloud, they are just a little too far away though for me.

Took the wifes 03 Polaris in for a 500 mile check-up and a warranty concern to Georgian Performance south of Parry Sound, and although they did a good job, they treated me with arrogance because I did not buy the sled there. Shouldn't matter, I spent my money for the service like anyone else.

I deal with Blue Sky Marine in New Hamburg Ont.
Paul mand Barry are great to deal with real down to earth guys.

One I wont deal with again , would be Vincent Motorsports in Ayr, these @$$holes ripped me off on my 96 Mach Z I bought from them.
They told me it was trail ready , secondaries and primaries were seized,need idler wheel bearings, a belt and many other things.
I would like to thank Pete Wardle for helping me get it up to top notch condition ,fter taking it back to Vincent 3 times and still not dooing anything more than changing spark plugs.

Scott in KW.

Originally posted by 800XRev@Aug 2 2003, 03:15 AM

One I wont deal with again , would be Vincent Motorsports in Ayr, these @$$holes .......
I agree with you there Scott, I work very close to the Vincent store, so I figured it wouldn't hurt starting up a relationship with them, y'know for parts and stuff. I placed a relatively large order, (pre season stuff for me and my neighbours) and a few items were back ordered so I just asked them to call me when it all came in. Sure enough, they called a few days later .."It's all here now, come a get it". Great, I thought, that's fast and they follow up!

I show up, collect my parts and AS I'M PAYING .. a guy comes by the counter and asks me if I bought my sled there ... I say no ... this SOB rummages through my order, grabs some tunnel protectors and says "I've got sleds in the back that need these parts" and walks away. I was shocked .... I told the guy he could keep the rest of the parts as well. Then, I stated matter of factly that there is no way I would ever buy anything from them again. Since then, Ive purchased my new Rev and a TON of parts from Two Wheel.

nobody has mentioned Arnies Cathouse i have heard great things about them for performance. how are they ? i don't know exactly in ontario where they are.

Originally posted by MikeD+Aug 1 2003, 11:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MikeD @ Aug 1 2003, 11:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-800XRev@Aug 2 2003, 03:15 AM

One I wont deal with again , would be Vincent Motorsports in Ayr, these @$$holes .......
I agree with you there Scott, I work very close to the Vincent store, so I figured it wouldn&#39;t hurt starting up a relationship with them, y&#39;know for parts and stuff. I placed a relatively large order, (pre season stuff for me and my neighbours) and a few items were back ordered so I just asked them to call me when it all came in. Sure enough, they called a few days later .."It&#39;s all here now, come a get it". Great, I thought, that&#39;s fast and they follow up!

I show up, collect my parts and AS I&#39;M PAYING .. a guy comes by the counter and asks me if I bought my sled there ... I say no ... this SOB rummages through my order, grabs some tunnel protectors and says "I&#39;ve got sleds in the back that need these parts" and walks away. [/b][/quote]
i wonder if Papa Doo knows that because from what i understand they are a flagship store for the company.

Originally posted by gobblestopper@Aug 1 2003, 03:27 PM
Sorry Jtkennedy9, I live in Gaylord and Extreme&#39;s prices are 20% higher than normal on just about everything. They do have really good inventory and really good sales on gear at the end of the year (usually 50%). They definately will not deal on prices for sleds or dirtbikes though. I usually deal with Lakes and Trail in Kalkaska, they have their moments but seem to be very easy to deal with if something goes wrong. I have been really happy with Birdssnowsports in White Cloud, they are just a little too far away though for me.
Thanks Gobblestopper you know I will take care of ya if I can


www.birdssnowsports.com (http://www.birdssnowsports.com) :p

Originally posted by NorthernRMK@Aug 1 2003, 02:28 PM
I know who I DON&#39;T go to around here. First name BIG, second name WAY. The rest are all good.
I have to agree with you on that one, i did not like their service at all.

Paul , Arnies Cathouse is located in downtown Novar, it&#39;s hard to miss it&#39;s right beside the hwy. Since I wasn&#39;t there and only have second hand info, I&#39;m not going to bad mouth them.

The Shop in Sudbury last year bent over backwards to help me get my sled fixed , when I had some major front end problems, no other dealer in that area even tried to help out in the ways they did, I found them great to deal with.

Originally posted by IndySKS@Aug 2 2003, 06:21 AM


The Shop in Sudbury last year bent over backwards to help me get my sled fixed , when I had some major front end problems, no other dealer in that area even tried to help out in the ways they did, I found them great to deal with.
What other dealer did you try????

The SHOP is the only Poo dealer within an hr + from here

Yes I do agree they are good,when I had my Indys,some friends swear by them :) yet others swear at them :p

Our Skidoo dealer closed shop in feb :(

SBC(AC) is a joke since they became a KIA dealer

Sudbury Cycle is the best reason to buy a Yamaha in Espanola(TrailSide) or Sturgeon(RL)

BTW anyone hear if Doo will re open in Sudbury(Sturgeon is kinda far for parts and service),I need clutch parts :p

Looks like North Country(Yamaha) in Northbay is closing too :(

I&#39;m having second thoughts about Centerton Sports & Farm .Called for a second time about new sled arrival and was told that they had already received 20 and they were stored in a well mouse baited barn.More info. then I needed to hear, so I ask if mine had came in and I received the same answer as the call before{wife wasn&#39;t there and she looks after all the sled orders}she will call you back.Well it&#39;s been another week and I still haven&#39;t heard{hoping mice are well fed already}.During our conversation I asked when they start to assemble them and was told middle of Sept. and it was combine season now!!Wanting to get more info. about accessories I was told it&#39;s the hottest day of July and were talking about sleds.Holidays start this week I&#39;m thinking if mine is in I just might grab the crate and run!!{main reason I went there was he took my trade in the spring}

Hey Freezie ,
I came from Marten River via North Bay and Sturgeon Falls and was at every dealer in between ( 2 ) . I&#39;m not saying anything bad about these two dealers , just they did not offer to strip parts off a new sled where the Shop did and got me back up and running in a mater of hours. Now thats going out of the way if you ask me.

Kanerva is known for that IndySKS,that is why they use to sell the mosts sleds around here for years,they earn there customers through great service like you describe

I was just wondering who else you tried,I hope you did not take my response as hostality ;)

Originally posted by MikeD@Aug 1 2003, 10:05 PM
I show up, collect my parts and AS I&#39;M PAYING .. a guy comes by the counter and asks me if I bought my sled there ... I say no ... this SOB rummages through my order, grabs some tunnel protectors and says "I&#39;ve got sleds in the back that need these parts" and walks away. I was shocked .... I told the guy he could keep the rest of the parts as well. Then, I stated matter of factly that there is no way I would ever buy anything from them again. Since then, Ive purchased my new Rev and a TON of parts from Two Wheel.
Just when you think you&#39;ve heard the worst service horror story, another one like this pops up. This is when we need to spread the word as much as we can about terrible service. How much of a friggen idiot could this employee be???? What an @$$hole!!!! Mike, I guess you don&#39;t know if this guy was an owner or not, do you? I&#39;m sure you didn&#39;t stick around to find out. I would find out who the owner is, and write a letter to him/her. There&#39;s a remote chance that the owner doesn&#39;t know this is going on, because the customers split after it happens, instead of registering a complaint. I know if any of our service/sales people ever treat our customers like this, I would want to know about it. In the meantime, let&#39;s all avoid this dealer.

IMO, because i know almost all the people there, two wheel motorsport in Guelph is the worst dealership in the world!! mike i know some people get good service but i know what goes on there and the a$$holes that work there. buncha crooks. i will never take my sled to the dealership ever again. i will always buy used and do the work myself. my buddy bought a mach there a couple years ago and he was warming the sled up the first time he was going out after he bought it and the crank went out of it. so of course they didnt wanna fix it because it was a used sled. he got left with the bill with the sled he just bought and he had a total of 0kms on it. BS if u ask me.

Originally posted by NorthernRMK@Aug 1 2003, 02:28 PM
I know who I DON&#39;T go to around here. First name BIG, second name WAY. The rest are all good.
I can&#39;t say anything bad about them. They fixed up grn800&#39;s sled when he took out the lower chaincase bearing this winter. The Yammi dealer (forget the name) in Chapleau hauled it to Timmins in the morning & when the rest of us rolled into Timmins @ 5 PM the sled was ready to go for the next day.

Originally posted by Just Doo ME@Aug 2 2003, 10:06 AM
I&#39;m having second thoughts about Centerton Sports & Farm .{wife wasn&#39;t there and she looks after all the sled orders}she will call you back.
Does the same couple that bought the business from Phaseys in Castleton own it? I had problems getting the owners back in &#39;90 to do proper warranty work. I swore I&#39;d never send any business their way.

I deal w/ White Water in Peterborough. I go by it on the way to Apsley for my sledding. If I call on Monday for parts, they&#39;ll be there Friday for pickup.

I use Bobs Ski-doo and Power Center in Easton, MA. Second Generation dealer who has sold only Ski-doo from the start of snowmobiling. definitely family atmosphere and treated really well. All question always answered no matter if I am buying something or just visiting. Here is there link if interested.Bobs Ski-doo (http://www.bobskidoo.com/)

I use Warp9sports out of Orangeville. Never had a problem with there service. I live in T.O and I have dealers [Leader pools, Snowcitycycle] 15 mins away from me, but I prefer to drive an hour to deal with this guy.

I have found that Central Outboard, in Markham has been most helpful each time I have been in for parts. They seem to have a good selection and when they don&#39;t have something they have been able to get it in for me within 48 hours.
My local guy has told me that ordering parts this time of year would be 4-6 weeks.

the worst dealer i have seen is Pickelman&#39;s in Newberry in the UP,friend blew out the rear shock on his Cat last winter ,it was -10 degrees outside ,asked if they could change it for us they said no,they had tech guys standing all around the shop just BSing,charged us double the list price for the new shock,asked if we could bring the sled inside and do the work ourself they told us no, we changed it outside ourselves,they acted like we were bothering them by just being there.we had no choice as they were the only Cat dealer around that had the shock we needed. :devil: any other time we have needed something from a sled dealer in the UP they have always bent over backwards to help us out

Mike I am sure that the guy that took the stuff off the counter was Dave the owner of the snowmobile dept. @ Vincents.
I could see him dooing that .

I saw him at the Ski Doo show outside of London in the spring he was basicly hinting to get my buisness back , so I gave him a call.
He was about 2k more than anyone else I had called.

Paul as far as Doo knowing what goes on Im sure they know.
See I not only stated my facts on here but sent an email as well.
They did call on a followup and I was very helpfull to fill them in on the service dept out there.

As far as Two Wheel goes, I called them as a friend of mine (Formulaman) had said give them a try.
So I did they told me to bring out my 03 and leave it so they could go over it for a day , I told them no thanks my sled goes with me.

Barry @ blue Sky Marine is a great guy and allways a blast to talk to .
Very down to earth and funny as hell, He teases the shyt outa Monique but all in good fun.
Even when we sell my buisness ( which I have an offer on the table as we speak) and move north I will continue to deal with them.
Scott
www.streettechracing.com

For fast mail order parts and it seems like everything is always in stock check out this dealer www.inglesperformance.com

800xrev,
if it were Dave then he should realize that all the time, effort and money he puts into racing it&#39;s that type of attitude is what drives people away. customers know a happy place to do business and want to become part of that great place. there is a transference of bad vibes when you walk into a place with bad attitude, you can cut it with a knife. that&#39;s is the reason smart businessmen get rid of not so cheery employees because it is like the old saying "one bad apple spoils the whole bushel".

myself i don&#39;t sell everybody i speak to.

a lesson i learned once was when i spent an entire saturday until 3 hours after closing time with a fellow. i didn&#39;t get home till 9:00 pm and ruined plans with my family. the monday morning after that same fellow called me and said he bought something totally different at another place, not even anything near what he and i were dealing with. now should i have been mad at him ? yes and were my feelings hurt ? yes. i said to mr. customer that i am glad he got what he wanted and to bring it by because i would like to see it. 4 weeks later that same mr. customer called me and said his daughter was in an accident. i said i hoped she didn&#39;t get hurt and if there was anything i could do for them i would. he said i can do something for him that is the reason he was calling. he told me that i should have told him off for buying elsewhere but instead i praised his purchase elsewhere. his reason for the call was he needed a car for his daughter that he would never buy where he bought 4 weeks earlier because of reasons i forget. he since has bought several from me and i have gotten a ton of referrals from him.

i guess what i learned there is that even though i screwed up the first time the other dealer screwed up worse, also when he did buy elsewhere that wasn&#39;t going to be his last purchase. there was many more.

attitude is what gets us all through a day whether we have a good one or bad.

Ballsout1,
ingles is an excellent dealer for getting parts and getting service work done :D , but don&#39;t try and get a (GOOD DEAL)from him because he does not give any. :(

Originally posted by RacerX408@Aug 2 2003, 06:31 PM
IMO, because i know almost all the people there, two wheel motorsport in Guelph is the worst dealership in the world!! mike i know some people get good service but i know what goes on there and the a$$holes that work there. buncha crooks. i will never take my sled to the dealership ever again. i will always buy used and do the work myself. my buddy bought a mach there a couple years ago and he was warming the sled up the first time he was going out after he bought it and the crank went out of it. so of course they didnt wanna fix it because it was a used sled. he got left with the bill with the sled he just bought and he had a total of 0kms on it. BS if u ask me.
Wow Racer .. I never would have guessed that. Like I said in my original response, I&#39;ve been dealing with two wheel (Ron) for years and have always been treated fairly .. sorry about your bad experience ... who are you using now?

Originally posted by MikeD@Aug 1 2003, 11:05 PM

I show up, collect my parts and AS I&#39;M PAYING .. a guy comes by the counter and asks me if I bought my sled there ... I say no ... this SOB rummages through my order, grabs some tunnel protectors and says "I&#39;ve got sleds in the back that need these parts" and walks away. I was shocked .... I told the guy he could keep the rest of the parts as well. Then, I stated matter of factly that there is no way I would ever buy anything from them again. Since then, Ive purchased my new Rev and a TON of parts from Two Wheel.
I hope you let Ski-doo know about this. If it happened to me I would have screamed bloody murder.!

I always knew there was something shady about you Paul :0:

You are a used car dealer :p

Originally posted by ARCTICZRT600@Jul 31 2003, 07:10 PM
Lewiston Motorsports. Mark, Carol and Ed are great people.
I second that! GOOD PEOPLE.

Kennises Lake Marina, Doug is the best dealer around IMHO, he has helped us and a number of our buds out multiple times. The price and service cant be beat.
1-705-754-2352 :)

Originally posted by FreezerBurnt@Aug 4 2003, 09:10 AM
I always knew there was something shady about you Paul :0:

You are a used car dealer :p
freezer,
i&#39;ve got a couple cars running around in beautiful downtown Garson. Garson is where jealousy will get you nowhere.

MikeD, i do all the work myself. once you&#39;ve done something on your sled once you will start to get the hang of it. Ron Ashley is the worst down there, he will bend ya over and stick it to ya anyway he can. i know his whole family pretty well and he even rips them off. his dad had two sleds that he rode the previous year, and a 98&#39; formula dlx 583, and ron said he would give him a deal by giving him a demo of the ski-doo v-1000 4 stroke sled if he traded him all of his old sleds.

when i totalled my mxzx 440 i needed a new set of front shocks (well the right side) and he told me he had a set of shocks that he had off of his rev 600 sport that had a bent shaft and he would fix it for me and sell me the shocks for $500. he also said i could trade in my old piggyback shocks, the good one and the one with the bent shaft, and he would take another $75 off of the $500 for the other shocks. well no kidding, who wouldnt go for that...a good friend of mine Nick Aitken who now works for richmond gowland kawasaki and is brad hagseths mechanic does my shocks and he used to work at two wheel as their shock man. he did all the pro-action set-ups and ron showed him everything ron knew and then screwed Nick over. Ron doesnt do favours for anyone, and if u take your sled into two wheel during the riding season, dont expect your sled back for a good month or two because they dont feel like getting anything done in a hurry.

My vote and I&#39;m sure Jacqui583&#39;s vote definitely go to Blue Sky Marine in New Hamburg. Formerly Wagners.

They&#39;re all really great folks there and will bend over backwards to treat former and potential customers fairly and with respect.

I too echo the former posts and experiences with Vincent&#39;s in Ayr.
Dave&#39;s own father realized he was killing the sled/ATV business and was having a negative impact on the farm business. That&#39;s why they severed off the sled / ATV shop as a totally separate entity for Dave to screw up and not impact the rest of the family.

I bought my first new sled from Dave. He was Mister nice guy untill the sled was out the door. After that I was made to feel most unwelcome if I dared to darken their doorstep. I&#39;ll never deal with Dave / Vincent&#39;s again.
I know a lot off Doo riders in this area, and have heard many horror stories from former customers. None of them have ever gone back.
Dave really caters to the extremely wealthy who buy several new sleds every year without batting an eye or shopping around.

For some strange reason, mostly to Dave being able to bull#### so well to the big wigs in Valcourt, they think he&#39;s king. Dave is personally responsible for Toko&#39;s in Waterloo losing their sled franchise because they treated customers the way they want to be treated. They were drawing a lot of customers in the area away from Vincents. Instead of improving his business practices. he eliminated the competition.

Jeff

Originally posted by me&myMXZ583@Aug 3 2003, 08:27 AM
I have found that Central Outboard, in Markham has been most helpful each time I have been in for parts. They seem to have a good selection and when they don&#39;t have something they have been able to get it in for me within 48 hours.
My local guy has told me that ordering parts this time of year would be 4-6 weeks.
I bought my 7c out of there and they seem pretty decent so far. I would never deal with Aqua jet the owner has a real attitude problem. I usually try and deal with the owners and build a relationship that is a long term thing.

IMO BlueSky Marine New Hamburg ONT 519-662-1461 is the best around southern ONT,i have been dealing there for about 10-15 years and not once a problem,Barry and Paul are great people to deal with and their service is excellent, they tell you how it is BLACK IS BLACK WHITE IS WHITE. Another if you ride the north is MIKEY"S in TIMMINS have had a few dealings with them also.

Originally posted by RacerX408@Aug 4 2003, 07:29 PM
MikeD, i do all the work myself. once you&#39;ve done something on your sled once you will start to get the hang of it.
Racer ... I do almost all of my own work as well, my posts have been referring to purchasing sleds and parts. So, who are you using now? to buy parts etc.?

:thumbsup: The place I always use is Reinbold&#39;s in Reese,(Actually closer to Frankenmuth). Whenever I price out sleds, the owner tells me he will beat any price, but he has never had to do that, his prices have always been lower with out any dickering. Plus he will always give you 20% off SkI-Doo merchandise for just buying a sled there. One thing I really like is---(Dont tell the State of Mi)---a lot of the time he doesn&#39;t charge sales tax if you pay cash, or he will just round to an even number like your bill will be $219 and he will say, "oh just make $200", Gotta love the small town dealerships. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by MikeD+Aug 1 2003, 11:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MikeD @ Aug 1 2003, 11:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-800XRev@Aug 2 2003, 03:15 AM

One I wont deal with again , would be Vincent Motorsports in Ayr, these @$$holes .......
I agree with you there Scott, I work very close to the Vincent store, so I figured it wouldn&#39;t hurt starting up a relationship with them, y&#39;know for parts and stuff. I placed a relatively large order, (pre season stuff for me and my neighbours) and a few items were back ordered so I just asked them to call me when it all came in. Sure enough, they called a few days later .."It&#39;s all here now, come a get it". Great, I thought, that&#39;s fast and they follow up!

I show up, collect my parts and AS I&#39;M PAYING .. a guy comes by the counter and asks me if I bought my sled there ... I say no ... this SOB rummages through my order, grabs some tunnel protectors and says "I&#39;ve got sleds in the back that need these parts" and walks away. I was shocked .... I told the guy he could keep the rest of the parts as well. Then, I stated matter of factly that there is no way I would ever buy anything from them again. Since then, Ive purchased my new Rev and a TON of parts from Two Wheel. [/b][/quote]
Michael;
Didn&#39;t the dealership you bought your sled from have the tunnel protectors for you? I&#39;m sure if you would have bought your sled from Vincent&#39;s you&#39;d be on the list to get the part. The tunnel protectors were very hard to come by at the beginning of the season and the person (who I&#39;m assuming is a manager or something) was just looking out for the customers who purchased 8000+ brand new sleds from his dealership that year. :0:

I used to deal with L.A.D. Enterprises in Selkirk. I can&#39;t complain about the quality of the work or anything like that except for the prices. I have developed a relationship with Gimli Snowmobile Center and this is where i purchased my 04 Rev 600 X from. I paid $10, 100 before taxes in Gimli while L.A.D. wanted $10, 400. I saved $300 and i didn&#39;t even have to dicker about the price. But he is also cheaper for parts right across the board and I have heard nothing but great things out on the trails about them.

Originally posted by revrocks20@Aug 13 2003, 09:05 PM

Michael;
Didn&#39;t the dealership you bought your sled from have the tunnel protectors for you? I&#39;m sure if you would have bought your sled from Vincent&#39;s you&#39;d be on the list to get the part. The tunnel protectors were very hard to come by at the beginning of the season and the person (who I&#39;m assuming is a manager or something) was just looking out for the customers who purchased 8000+ brand new sleds from his dealership that year. :0:
The tunnell protectors were not for me, and the problem I have is being told the parts were "in and ready to be picked up" then having them snatched away ..... without so much as an explanation. There may have been a shortage, but I ORDERED the parts.... they had my credit card # to place the order. That&#39;s not right.

one guy i forgot to mention is mike hull at bennett marine in scarborough. this guy went out of his way to get me some parts.

I use Shiawasee Motorsports New Lothrup MI. Located on M13 just south of Mt.Morris rd. No phone number or address. ???

Originally posted by me&myMXZ583@Aug 3 2003, 08:27 AM
I have found that Central Outboard, in Markham has been most helpful each time I have been in for parts. They seem to have a good selection and when they don&#39;t have something they have been able to get it in for me within 48 hours.
My local guy has told me that ordering parts this time of year would be 4-6 weeks.
Im with you. Central is a amazing dealer they are also the oldest in Ontario. The owner Kim is great. My brother Machzzzz1 is like there best customer. I know what you mean about the parts how they always get them in quick. My dad bought my snowmobile there and i will buy my next one there.

Originally posted by paul yarek@Aug 13 2003, 05:57 PM
one guy i forgot to mention is mike hull at bennett marine in scarborough. this guy went out of his way to get me some parts.
I&#39;ll agree with paul on this one mike is the man.Sled always ready on time and had a engine rebuilt after warranty was over.Good service always happy i don&#39;t mind spending my $$ there when the job is done right.YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!!!

Originally posted by revrnd@Aug 2 2003, 09:05 PM
I can&#39;t say anything bad about them. They fixed up grn800&#39;s sled when he took out the lower chaincase bearing this winter. The Yammi dealer (forget the name) in Chapleau hauled it to Timmins in the morning & when the rest of us rolled into Timmins @ 5 PM the sled was ready to go for the next day.
They were probably nice to you since you an out of towner that happend to stop by, if they wouldnt have gave you good service you would have told people about it and word would get around and such and give them a bad reputation (which they already have in timmins anyway), most people in timmins that i know, do not like their service. One guy i know brings his sled all the way to earlton from timmins to get work done cause they give him bad service. My father said if he ever bought another arctic cat it would be from a different dealer.

??? Its kind of strange but I&#39;ve noticed that the larger places, like anything called Powersports, seem to have a lot more customers, but are always struggling. These places generally carry more than one brand, but cant provide no service, thats why I think most people here are usually giving the nod to the small town shops. I know the place I buy sleds at sells and services lawn equip in the summer, so they look forward to the snow season.

LeatherDale Marine in Orillia, ONT. - Ski-Doo Dealer

A&K Recreation- Coldwater ONT., all makes - although if he works on your sled he tends to drop screw drivers down under the engine and leaves them there so when you get your sled back you have some extra tools

St.Onge- Bombardier Dealer - Barrie ONT.

Royal Distributing- Barrie ONT.

The places i use most are Royal, St.Onge, and Leatherdale. Although i did buy my snowmobile from A&K.

SWRules

Originally posted by LadyK@Aug 4 2003, 01:26 PM
Kennises Lake Marina, Doug is the best dealer around IMHO, he has helped us and a number of our buds out multiple times. The price and service cant be beat.
1-705-754-2352 :)
I have to agree with that post!!! :thumbsup:

Ipulled this out yesterday couldn&#39;t find anything about Waynes world in bancroft thats why the waynes world post but I will responed when I deal.

I think some of you guy&#39;s should remember you own post&#39;s from other forums!!!!!!
I deal at vincents with great confidence! had dealing with other dealers and had problems, but when when it comes to dealer bashing I&#39;m not high on that deal like some others!!! but they keep swaping story&#39;s same storie diferent guy?????
do you guy&#39;s make this up or are you that bored??? yes you may have had a
bad dealing but there probably more to the storie.....
I really got ripped by a performance guy in kitchener,now in waterloo???
but I dont go around bashing this guy originally from brantford.......

We&#39;ve bought all of our new Ski-doo&#39;s from Belleville Sport and Lawn in Belleville.Anyone who sleds around the L&#39;amble area (near Bancroft) probably knows the Hadley&#39;s and the tremendous grooming job they do in that area.They always seem to know any updates on the sleds before anyone else and they always were as cheap or cheaper than any of the other dealers.Excellent service and they could usually find you a sled even if they didn&#39;t have one.The thing I liked about them was they actually rode the sleds so they would tell you what was good or bad about a particular model from experience and not just from a ski-doo brochure.Haven&#39;t been there for a while though,last new ones were bought in 97 :( .

Lou&#39;s Small Engines and Sports in Fort Smith NT. No pressure sales, very competitive prices, excellent service, and the coffee is always on. Customers are treated very well, no matter what brand they are on, or where they bought their sled. These guys ride with us, and are a big part of our snowmobile club. As snowmobilers, they know what a customer wants from a dealership.

lous@gardtal.com

I use Stevens in midland, just bought my first new sled there and was treated very well. haven&#39;t had to use there service dept. yet, I have used linwood cycle sales for service work both on my sled and jet ski. Hondo and the guys are very helpful and couteous and prices are reasonable.

Originally posted by eatmydoo@Dec 16 2003, 10:45 AM
I think some of you guy&#39;s should remember you own post&#39;s from other forums!!!!!!
I deal at vincents with great confidence! had dealing with other dealers and had problems, but when when it comes to dealer bashing I&#39;m not high on that deal like some others!!! but they keep swaping story&#39;s same storie diferent guy?????
do you guy&#39;s make this up or are you that bored??? yes you may have had a
bad dealing but there probably more to the storie.....
I really got ripped by a performance guy in kitchener,now in waterloo???
but I dont go around bashing this guy originally from brantford.......
Sounds like Dave found the site here.

ooch!!!! seems that I hit a sore spot with one of the regulars!!!
yes I am a newbie.. but no my name is not dave. thanks anyway??????
I just think good news on good dealers is great bad news on bad dealers gets blown out of control....
btw: thanks for the message 800revx :D

Unfortunatly I am not blowing it out of proportion re my 96 Mach Z.
We took it back 3 times and Dave and Matt didnt want to do anything to fix the problems , so Me and TugBoat took it upon ourselves to repair it.
After that it was a great sled , but when someone is told its trail ready it shouldnt need work.

But I can thank them , as I did get to rebuild my own sled and get back into something I havent been into since high school.

Eatmydoo I wish you luck in your quest and hooe everything works out for you.

And if your in the lane beside me next season at the track better hope your trailer ramps are down.
LOL
Scott

I find this topic very interesting, same thing every year, I also find it strange that on one hand a customer loves Two wheel in Guelph, the next guy hates two wheel, bend you over etc...
I&#39;ve delt with vincent&#39;s since 1989, since then I have purchased 13 new sleds. Never have I had a problem that was not able to be fixed up. I&#39;ve had sleds let me down but Vincents never did. Parts back-ordered, no problem, use my sled etc.
As for the tunnel protector problem, news flash, Dave looks after his own FIRST!
As for Dave being responsible for Toko losing their dealership, get your head out of your a$$
Scott, everyone has a problem here and there, hell I&#39;ve heard rumors about your business, of people that are not happy about what you do. Should we bring those guys on here and let them chuck $hit at you? (it could be arranged)

Seems like same person posting ,just keeps reregistering to look like more people on his side.

nope not the same guy.... my first new sled was in 1991. from toko in waterloo...
then 1997 from andrew sports in st.thomas. I wish I could aford anew sled in 1989
but money wasn&#39;t as good as today....lol...
my new sled came from vincents its a rev and I cant wait too try it out. if anyone cares....
I&#39;ve tried different dealers, I&#39;ve priced different dealers.... but dave earned my business with price,service,respect.........

eatmydoo.
You will love the Rev I had an 03 now a 04 800 X
Great sleds best my back has been in years.

The club I belong to speaks high of Dave , and I keep my mouth shut, its not the time or place .
He helps out the club by lending a quad or 2 and we apprecaite that yes , but as a customer I was way less than satisfied.
I try to make all my custoers happy , even if it takes alot.
But some never get enough , But I try.

I also dont state anything that is less than fact.
I wont make up crap, just tell it as it is.
There are some onhere that I have worked for and I hope I helped them out.
Again good luck and hope to see you on the trails.

Scott

from what I hear dave helps lots of clubs!!!! atvs, trailers,repairs!
hey I dont know that for a fact but it&#39;s nice to hear you say that even with your past dealings. thats the way you should handle all your topics lol.......
yes I hope my revs as good as everyone says it will be...
most likely not as fast as a f7 but you never know!!!!!!!!
ride on!

see my and the guy are on at the same time rotaxrocks
damn i thought i was seeing double lol......
see 800xrev

North of Lindsay Ontario on Hwy 35.
HB Cycle are the guys to deal with. Kevin & Phil & Staff are great.

Prentice Power Sports south of Minden on Hwy 35:
They do not go out of their way to help you.

Central Outboard in Markham. Kim, Scott, or Michael in sales. All great to deal with.

I bought a new 03 Z570 form Spicers Boat City Houghton Lake, Michigan back in sept. They were great since I live 6 hours south in central Indiana everything was done over the phone. All I had to do was drive up sign on the dotted line load it on the trailer and was gone in 40 minutes. Little far to go, but I needed a weekend trip and the price was right.

Never had service done or bought parts there, but they were great to me when buying.

Keweenaw Motor sports Calumet Mi. My son totaled an FIII on our second day of atwo week trip. We bought a used FIII as is , the stator went out and we noticied a problem with the steering ,they didn,t hesitate to take care of it while we waited. I mentioned a problem with my new sled fuel consumption ,an update done by my home town dealer improperly.They insisted that they take care of it also . The place was a mad house with customers and they treated me like I was there only and best customer. We had a problem free and great trip after that thanks to them!

i think the lesson here is that if you buy from them,they love you. but if you don&#39;t then you can go f&#39;yourself........... :cussing:

i think the lesson here is that if you buy from them,they love you. but if you don&#39;t then you can go f&#39;yourself........... cussing.gif

That may be right for some dealers. But most will be good to you in hopes of keeping your business. I can&#39;t speak for every dealer, but Central Outboard was good to me before I bought a new sled from them. I used them for parts on all my older sleds.

Funny how a bad dealer will help you find a good one?. One place to stay away from around the twin cities area is St. Croix Outpost outside of Hudson Wi. I bought a sled there, $300.00 cheaper than anyone else I checked. I soon found out why. Scheduled time for a recall update, dropped it off and was told it would be ready in 3 days. Call up before I make the trip and yep, it&#39;s ready. Get there and they hadn&#39;t even looked at it yet!. took another trip couple days later to get it.
Many more bad events with them.

On the good, Danner Sales in Inver Grove Hts. Mn. I had a major discussion with a tree and took same sled I bought from the outpost there, thinking that since I didn&#39;t buy it there it would take weeks (this was mid Jan). They treated me the same as if I bought it there. Had it fixed in 10 days, and they had alot of sleds they were working on.

When I can justify my new Rev, it will be from Danner Sales!

Have been dealing with Cartronics Skidoo in Napanee for several years now and have been treated excellent. Always have parts in stock and give me good discounts.

Parts & supplies, Village Motorsports in Grand Rapids or Bird&#39;s Snow Sports in White Cloud.

Service work, whatever I don&#39;t do myself, I have done at HRP Motorsports between Rockford and Belding.

Nelsons Speed Shop (http://www.nelsonsspeedshop.com) in Greenville, MI treated me good.

I dealt with a cat dealer outside of Findlay,,,,after spending about 1500$ of parts and service (on a sled that I had bought from a friend), it became obvious that I was a second hand customer to them,,,,they were always taking care of other things,,,,
last trip in, I took a sled up that wasnt running right,,,,said I was leaving on a trip in 3 weeks,,,they said they would have it done by then no problem,,,called 1 week before I left,,,not done,,,again 2 days before leaving,,,not done,,,,called night before I left, let them know I was on my way up to get a sled that they said would be fixed,,,,,

only problem the sled had was a broken throttle cable,,,,I was charged 3 hours of labor as well as parts (which included the wrong cable),,,, I have since put the correct cable on it and the sled runs fine,,,,,

I switched and went to the DZ Barn in Genoa Ohio,,,,I drive 70 mile one way to get there,,,,,I bought 3 brand new sleds last year from them and they had to go elsewhere to get them to take care of me,,,,,they were going to get mine at my old dealer and I made it very clear that I didnt want any of them then, I refused to put another dollar in that dealers pocket,,,,

So they went elsewhere, got everything I wanted, cut me a heck of a deal, and I continue to come back for anything I need,,,,,I have no issues at all driving out of my way to get that kind of service and would highly recommend the DZ Barn to anyone ,,,,,

Originally posted by JIM FRITCH@Aug 2 2003, 11:47 AM
Just when you think you&#39;ve heard the worst service horror story, another one like this pops up. This is when we need to spread the word as much as we can about terrible service. How much of a friggen idiot could this employee be???? What an @$$hole!!!! Mike, I guess you don&#39;t know if this guy was an owner or not, do you? I&#39;m sure you didn&#39;t stick around to find out. I would find out who the owner is, and write a letter to him/her. There&#39;s a remote chance that the owner doesn&#39;t know this is going on, because the customers split after it happens, instead of registering a complaint. I know if any of our service/sales people ever treat our customers like this, I would want to know about it. In the meantime, let&#39;s all avoid this dealer.
Jim The OWNER at TEAM VINCENT knows this happens .....FOR SURE ..........My expierience DAVE VINCENT helped his salesman Straight out rip me off ....NOT to mention That Dave&#39;s crew lie through there teeth ....Im actually about to post a new thread on these guys and will explain there


BEWARE OF TEAM VINCENT THERE CROOKED AS HELL....... :cussing:

IF you MUST go there Please take along a BUTT-PLUG IT MAY HELP...... :cussing:

Originally posted by 800XRev@Dec 16 2003, 12:51 PM
Sounds like Dave found the site here.
I agree with you only 5 posts will need to see where else he posted ...Dave suks end of story

Originally posted by RotaxRocks@Dec 16 2003, 03:07 PM
I find this topic very interesting, same thing every year, I also find it strange that on one hand a customer loves Two wheel in Guelph, the next guy hates two wheel, bend you over etc...
I&#39;ve delt with vincent&#39;s since 1989, since then I have purchased 13 new sleds. Never have I had a problem that was not able to be fixed up. I&#39;ve had sleds let me down but Vincents never did. Parts back-ordered, no problem, use my sled etc.
As for the tunnel protector problem, news flash, Dave looks after his own FIRST!
As for Dave being responsible for Toko losing their dealership, get your head out of your a$$
Scott, everyone has a problem here and there, hell I&#39;ve heard rumors about your business, of people that are not happy about what you do. Should we bring those guys on here and let them chuck $hit at you? (it could be arranged)
Dave&#39;s crew of flunkys must be kissing some major DAVE butt .......Let terri bent over DAVE IM sure Matt or Shane would line up there tooo ....Cant wait to come by for Christmas


Dave at least participate or get your posting saving CREW have many more posts before answering


All replys from first time poster smell bad on certain subjects


(Dave Vincent and Store Personal WHAT Go&#39;s Around WILL Come AROUND )

Leatherdale Marine in Orillia. When I switched from Polaris to Ski-doo, I had a terrible experience with the first dealer declaring bankruptcy (McGregor Marine). Leatherdale was really excellent and I have since bought my second sled from them.

I also found Janssens in Gravenhurst/Bracebridge really good as well and bought quite a few Polaris&#39; from them.

Anybody deal with Cal-Jet?? Just off Hwy#400 in Toronto. I have recently purchased a sled (private sale) an had it up to them for the pre-season tune up. They seem like really good guys! Knowing that I had just purchased the sled they took the time to go over it with me top to bottom on a busy Saturday afternoon. Everyone I spoke with there right from Gordon the owner to the guys in service were all very friendly and helpful. They had all the work done sooner then I had expected. Keep up the great work guys!

I&#39;m looking for a new dealer in Doo dealer in S.E. lower Mich. A word of warning for those in this area. Stay away from K&W cycle in Utica, Mi. They are great until they have your money, then lookout. The worst sevice dept. ever. My sled siezed, with 300 miles on it, they said nothing wrong, they couldn&#39;t find the two screwed up pistons. fixed it myself, and corrected the update they claimed to have done, got absolutly no help from them whatsoever. Very incompetent. If you find yourself there, run away, run away fast. Real jerks in service dept.

Originally posted by Ski-dude@Dec 18 2003, 08:46 PM
I&#39;m looking for a new dealer in Doo dealer in S.E. lower Mich.
not sure how far into Michigan ya are, but the DZ Barn is just outside of Toledo into Ohio and they do both doo and cat,,,,,I travel 70 mile one way to get to them, and they have really taken care of me,,, if you want info, pm me and I will give you more info on them,,,
Brian

:blahblah:

BLUE SKY MARINE in New Hamburg. Paul was great to deal with on my 2004 800 HO. I have tried dealing with other dealers in the area but I am happy with Blue Sky.

Originally posted by RotaxRocks@Dec 16 2003, 04:07 PM
I&#39;ve delt with vincent&#39;s since 1989, since then I have purchased 13 new sleds. Never have I had a problem that was not able to be fixed up. I&#39;ve had sleds let me down but Vincents never did. Parts back-ordered, no problem, use my sled etc.

If you buy a NEW sled every year you SHOULD get red carpet, no questions asked, knee pad service. Christ, you should pretty much have your own designated parking spot! Gimme a break and deal in reality or at least "average Joe" equal terms here. :rolleyes:

They would REALLY be a mess if they didn&#39;t take care of an annual repeat customer like you!

As far as the tunnel protectors go, I can appreciate the dealer wanting to take care of his customers first, but that&#39;s what I was ..... a customer. What pizzed me off was that when I ordered the stuff I was told it wasn&#39;t in stock but they would order it for ME. When MY order comes in (for ME) with MY name and M/C # on it, they pick through MY order for parts they decide they need. If they were good business people (managers of inventory) they would have had these parts ordered for thier customers far in advance, instead of having to scavenge.

Still ...... fact is .... as a consumer I can go where I please, it won&#39;t be Vincent.

No rant, just stating the facts.

Well picked up a new wheeler this week 400 sportsman with plow. Ended up buying it off of Byers equipment in Orillia, they were the best deal I could fined.As far as the service goes they treated me good they didn&#39;t try to charge extras like installation or p.d.i. or freight.

I would recommend Cartronics Ski-Doo in Napanee Ontario ( not my closest dealer! ) I have not purchased a sled there yet, but my wife had them put studs in my track for a Valentine&#39;s Day present. This happened the day before, and with no service appointment. They squeezed her job in between other jobs throughout the day, and it was ready for pick-up when I got home from work. I thought that was pretty decent of them (and my wife ). That shop is busy in mid-February. 1-613-354-5222 is their phone number. Won&#39;t be long and it will be Valentine&#39;s again! My &#39;03 could use some stuff. :inlove:

I deal with T&T Snowmobile ltd. They are located just outside of McAdam, New Brunswick and the snowmobile trail crosses right behinf their shop. They are just a family owned business and deal only with Arctic Cat and the service is great.