check out the sleds www.obvion.com/firecat/

THIS WEBSITE DOES NOT WORK.

try it again it works for me!

It still does not work. *I get a file not found page.

I got it to work now. *Thanks. *were is the 600

That page worked for me. *Look at the weight on that thing, 140 hp out of the 435 lb sno pro chasis. *That sounds great. *It produces the same hp as the 800 and weighs about 70 lbs lighter, that's great. *Also notice that it has the 13.5" track also. *I don't know if that good or bad. *I don't know if I could buy one without seeing it in person first. *Sounds great.
Where did that info come from? *I would like to see some better color pictures of course, but thanks for sharing this groundbreaking info?

It worked for me. One sweeeeet looking sled. Here is a black and white of it.

Haven't seen anything on the 600,but I'm glad I didn't buy the early release 900,70lbs less and only 10 less hp.

What about the other zr's do they still have a 500 and 600 and are they in the new sno-pro chassis or last years zr chassis. *Thanks for the photos

How much are these going for. *Has anyone seen them in person.

You guys are jumping the gun. *I'm amazed we even saw the pictures and stats, and you are asking for prices and seeing it in person. *But I also ask for a foot when someone gives me an inch.

As far as the ZR's, I would bet that the firecats are the only ones getting the sno pro chassis. *Look at the spec sheet, it shows the ZR 800 and 900 in the current ZR chassis.

I wonder if they have the cross link suspension like the race sleds?

SPECS SAY 13" TRACK WIDTH ...WONT THAT EFFECT FLOATATION ? http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif STABILITY....PROBABLY NOT THEY ADDED 7" TO LENGTH ..... I GUESS ,MAYBE I'M STUCK IN MOUNTAIN MODE NOW ...USED TO LIVE IN TAXACHUSETTS ..NOW LIVE IN IDAHO....STEEP AND DEEP ,BABY http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

It is a 13 1/2" wide track 128" long so it has roughly 5% less snow contact area than a 15" wide 121" track if 1/3 of the track is in contact with the snow. *At 15% less weight than the ZR 800 *this should have no effect on flotation. *It has a 3.11 Lb/HP ratio compared to the T-Cat at 3.26.....WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! *Can you say Blade for less than half the price with EFI.......... *I want one!!!!!!!!!

These are really secret pic's. *Wade West already pulled them off amsnow after they were only on there 15 minutes.

I have a 02 Sno Pro with a BM 715cc, 155hp. Unfortunately I haven't been able to put on a lot of miles due to lack of snow. All I can say is it's scary fast, and handles the rough stuff great. The front end is still a bit too stiff but the cross link with the longer track works great. I haven't raced anything serious yet but It has to be close if not faster than the ZR800 twin. The front end is a little more tippy than the normal AC setup but with more of a sag setting I think that will take care of much of that. Also the fact that the weight is farther back may be a factor. I'm going to try and get some more miles here in Mich. over the next few weekends.

kawky sleds

I wonder what an AWS VI is? *The shocks look really long! *Maybe that is the difference? *Any thoughts?

Maxwell

Read the press release on AC's page.

Fastcat, they mention about changing the angle of the track, so I think more of the track is on the snow than 1/3.

Maxwell, read the release, they say to make up for the narrower chassis, the A arms are extended and the shocks are longer to provide the same ski stance.

How do you think this chassis is doing for Tucker. *Blair is doing good on the REV. *I saw somewhere that AC started putting the additional idlers on the back of the track so that it has 4 wheels instead of the two that it comes with.

I wonder what the engine is based on. *Is is an all new engine or is it based on an existing engine or the old 700? *or is it the 800 downsized? *I need to have this sled but I don't want to do their R & D for them on unproven equipment!

wonder why they left this picture alone? AC shut down everyone else somehow!

I do remember someone posting about the new 700 from cat a few weeks ago I wonder who that was. the motor is basicaly a down tuned open motor with the 440 laydown case and bigger cylinders,and yes it is faster than the 900 acording to the people I know from cat factory.If you were to go to a dealer they are not supossed to even talk about it,a friend ask the guys at BM and they just said WHAT havent heard about it ,No talk from cat on a 600 yet but I will keep checking as it would be the only reason that I would defect from Polaris.Cat has been doing a lot of work on the handling problems but they should have them worked out by build time.

Oh I forgot who was it that posted *about this new 700 from Cat???

Props to you Snow rat I remember.

What happened to the 500 fuelie http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif??

For the company that had the first 700 twin it sure took em long enough to bring one out that is competitive.It looks like a decent package and this is coming from a Doo guy http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Too bad it is efi I would never buy a efi sled that is my choice since I like to tinker and you can't do that with a fuelie.I also like the fact that if something did go wrong with it I can usually fix it ,short of burndown,on the side of the trail,which means I don't have to get towed out of the woods or back country by the competition.
If cat builds a 120 hp carb 600 with adjustable shocks and a clear(racer wanna be)tank and high forward mounted bars,I would give it some serious consideration.I am not the only one that feels this way as I could name 20 people off the top of my fat head that feel the same way as I do.

It's just a matter of time until they come up with a way to tamper with the "tamperproof" ecm.

I have to say that I was a little skeptical of the efi after the 1994 ext 580 I had couldn't be figure out by anyone,. The 600 efi I have has performed flawlessly.

I have been thinking of ways to piss with the ecm, but unfortunatly I lost my electronics engineering degree.

http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Sign me up . I'll be first in line when they release em. This thing is outragous. Same hp as my new 800 and 70 pounds less. I'm gettin giggly thinkin about it. Damn that thing is gonna cook. *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif *nothin's gonna touch it plus its efi. I'm buying one but don't tell the fiance, she wants a ring . TOO BAD http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Papa is gettin a new ride again. Hope it snows next year. Oh yeah, i'm jumpin the gun but oh well we are all dreamers but i think this ones comin true http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

what's so secret about a snocross sled with two new motors, that will go back to the dealer for a hundred recalls, wont get delivered before january 03 and have B/S horsepower numbers.

Come on now, your raining on my parade. *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

I think boneman is just jealouse that he can't get one.As for hp numbers it is pure speculation until someone other than cat puts them on a dyno.As with someof the previous cat sleds since cat exagerated them by a bit also.But with even 130 hp it *and it's light weight it should be the fastest in class.I know that a friend from cat claims it is faster than the 900 by a good margin.

http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif from what i've seen not to bad ,not a cat rider but i'm impressed,looks like a winner to me,hell of a lot nicer than the new rev ski-doo.not to sure about that track though

I think they should put a 128 x 1.25 x 15" wide track though.

Sorry snorat Boneman can get one of these firechickens but I wouldn't buy a first year cat on a bet! *good luck with yours maybe they can prove me wrong and get this one right.

Firechicken? I wouldnt put my money where my mouth is on that sled just yet. I am sure they have spent a little time on that machine figuring out what it can do and cant do. I am questionable on the track but with a sled with a two year warranty who cares if its out for the first year

The two year warranty makes me feel better about it also. *Remember that this chassis will have been raced for a full season and had a whole summer to work the bugs out. *It should be o.k. buy the time we recieve. *At least that is what I keep telling myself http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

The only down side is the resale value of the thing if it turns out to be a flop. *You can lose a lot of money that way. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Has anyone downloaded the pictures?? I can't access them and would love to see what you all are talking about.
thanks, * j.

If these sleds hold together like my brothers 2002 sno-pro they are a big pile of crap. After 3 races, crushed foot wells, suspension rails cracking, rear tunnel cracking at pitch area for ETT, oil bottle cap stripped, speedometer does not work , shocks blew out after first ride so the cross link is still messed up, update on top of update. The sled may be light but after all the bracing needed to keep it together it back up with all the rest . Don't get me wrong I ride cat and probably always will but I am keeping what I have for now 2001 Zr440 . My dad rides my brothers 1997 ZR 440 that was raced 2 seasons and is in way better shape than the 2002 ever thought of being. All I can say is I wpuld weight another season before buying. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif Another issue:motor mounts ripping out on clutch side. The way this sled is holding up arctic cat should give parts sleds with them.

Sno-pro, thanks for the info. *I guess it all depends on your riding style and if you will actually be racing it or not. *Would you say this sled takes more abuse than other sleds that are raced or sleds that are only trail ridden?

JAYJAYSIN:The 2002 sno-pro sled can can not handle the abuse as well Like I said the 97 ZR440 was raced 2 seasons when that sled was in its prime and is in a lot better shape. They keep making sleds lighter and lighter I but feel they are going to far now they are also weaker on durability also . They have a lot of durabity issues to work out this year if this is what they are going to release to the public the firecats. The 440 engine is good and so is the concept of what they came up with but like I said durability * http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Does anyone know how the stockers are holding up for AC's racers? *The only thing I read somewhere was that they added two more idlers to the rear. *The two that are there weren't enough. *Although, there is time for them to make some adjustment before next fall delivery.

Sorry the fact of the matter is if they keep shaving weight off these sleds there just not going to hold up. So if your sold on the firechicken go lay down $7500 for a six lap special! And bring a tow rope!!

I would have to agree, from seeing the sno-pros in racing they are a step back for cat. They don't turn, and no balance when jumping. Another Cat flop.......

I received a Cat Brochure today, and it did Not!!! offer 2 year warranty on the FIRECAT line of sleds, only Other models in the lineup, you think they might be trying to cover their ###. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Good luck getting a 15 inch track in a 14 inch tunnel,also. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif