: Question About Leaning In The Powder
FastMX85 11-01-2003, 11:46 PM Hey guys im getting all revved up for the season and i got a question. I was watching som snowmobile moves the other day and was wondering how thses guys turn their sleds almost completely on the side when they are carving around in the power. I wanna try this and was wondering if it is possible with my machine. I know im a little far away from todays technology but is it possible to carv like tha with my sled. It looks like fun. Any pics of u guys doin stuff like that would help too and also any pointers and what to do and what not to do when attempting this would be great. thanks
JasonF 11-02-2003, 01:04 AM :dazed: The best way to get started is to practice taking off from a stop, put both feet on the left side of the sled and pull the handle bars toward you while give the sled a little gas. As you gradually goose the throttle pull the sled a bit more until you are carving in a circle, note you will fall off several times until you get your balance down. As you get better you can do this while moving to conquer the deep stuff. :undercover: And make sure you have plenty of snow to do this, the sled will roll with inadequate snow cover, good luck Jason :hallo1:
todatop 11-02-2003, 03:16 AM practice,practice,practice.you will learn by trial and error..body pos.when you first start direction changes, make sure you stay on top of the sled for a sec.then go to the other side.biggest mistake here is going over to far.
99MXZ670HO 11-02-2003, 10:07 AM :sleepy: Start by putting all your wight to one side but careful not to go to far or your sled will tubble over on its side and you get a nice face wash :lol: . Turn the skies slightly. You don't need to turn to sharp to get it to work , If you do it might cause you to catapult over the other side if you accelerate to fast :!: . Gradually work your way up to leaning further and turning sharper. Always look to see what's in front of you and not down at the ski, All you need is to run into a tree, rock, ETC... :cool:
Formulaman 11-02-2003, 11:43 AM It's harder to do with a trail sled because of the wider ski stance. Having a grab handle on the bars helps too, but it can be done if you have deep enough powder and it's a blast until ya get it buried! :D
A.K.A. THUMPER 11-02-2003, 12:43 PM Do it with no trees in the field ....
paul yarek 11-02-2003, 12:50 PM Originally posted by A.K.A.@Nov 2 2003, 10:43 AM
Do it with no trees in the field ....
ooh :crazy: that's not experience talking there is it ?
permafrost 11-02-2003, 02:30 PM Todatop said it all, practice practice. With a friend is easier as the help in getting out is critical. Bring a shovel too. Your sled will carve powder just fine, it is the rider that does it. One method that we use quite a bit is if you feel that you are going to get stuck or fall off give the throttle a blip before you do and the sled will climb on top. no digging required to get going again. here are a few pics.
permafrost 11-02-2003, 02:35 PM another
permafrost 11-02-2003, 02:40 PM One more carve pic. these pics are from eastern ontario north of Plevena near Brule lake.
puree 11-02-2003, 03:05 PM I agree, it looks like fun, but I would be the guy hitting the tree,,,,
FastMX85 11-02-2003, 03:38 PM wow too bad email reply notification didnt work i just checked the site and wow ten replies :slick: Anyway, thanks for all the help...im def gonna give it a try. Im a lil worried cause i kept getting stuck just trying to cross the powder last year. This is probly due to my worn out track. I may buy a used kimpex agressor track .750" cause that is about the only performance track avail. for my sled. If you are the guy that had one of these laying around his shop could you please pm me cause i think i lost your member name. Thanks guys and those pics were awesome. Keep the replys coming im learning alot.
1greenmachine 11-02-2003, 04:00 PM Last year i was trying to perfect the art of leaning a sled over and there is a ton of falling off the sled the nice thing is that falling into powder doesn't hurt. The more powder you have the easier it is to lean the sled, i found my sled leans eaiser to the right than the left. I usually start slowlygetting iinto the throttle as i lean hard over on one side i only weigh150 lbs so i really have to lean. The line between laying a sled over or falling off is small so i usually end up falling off. So good luck and have fun practiceing. :D
Good2Go 11-02-2003, 04:00 PM i have an '89 mx studded and the track is in good shape and trust me that sled is a pig to get above the snow, make sure u get ur speed up before u start carving.
permafrost 11-02-2003, 04:28 PM here is a vid clip of some carving on a hill
Bauer 11-02-2003, 05:28 PM Carving is awesome. It is easy, but you gots to practice. Another thing that i like to do is get into a nice powder field, and stand a ways back on the sled, a foot on each side, and shift my wieght side to side, it gets into a cool wave motion, but it is a real #### to get out of it sometimes. It is crazy fun once you get used to it, and if i can do it with my XLT you can do it with your machine.
dgiles 11-02-2003, 06:55 PM Remember, in deep snow, turn your ski's in the opposite direction you want to go. The more you turn the ski's, the more the sled will fall over. Very similar to riding a street bike.
need snow 11-05-2003, 09:20 AM when riding in deep powder it helps to have a shovel and understanding/patient friends :D
and remember,if ya never get stuck,you aren't riding hard enough
OMOTM 11-06-2003, 12:16 AM Here are couple of examples.
OMOTM 11-06-2003, 12:20 AM To much turn.
OMOTM 11-06-2003, 12:24 AM In this kind of powder, power turns are a blast. Even if you fall, it will be a soft landing.
not until last year did i start venturing to far off trial. i always had a big heavey triple and was not interested in getting the thing stuck. plus people just get tired of helping u dig out. it was last year when i bought my 02 zr cce that i started hitting jumps, going off trial and i found a whole new area of snowmobiling that i loved. seem to be more fun to jus go out, play in some fields, climb a few hills and hit a lot of jumps than it was to go out and ride the trials all day and put on 150-200 miles. although that is a blast. this year now that i bought the f6 and i am putting the 1.375 track on, its time to learn this carving technique and go even bigger on teh jumps.
i heard that a way to get a sled to carve better was to take off or disable the sway bar. if thats true than thats the only tip i have for you.
have fun and good luck
ALASKANASSASAN 12-21-2003, 11:21 AM Cool shot permafrost! :thumbsup:
ALASKANASSASAN 12-21-2003, 11:28 AM dgiles is right!........turn your skies right if you want to carve left. It makes a big difference. Then just TAPE IT! (for those who don't know....thats tape the throttle to the handle bars and hang on!) :sly:
If you are having trouble just getting it up on one side in the powder then turn your skis the opposite way you want to go and put your weight the way you do want to go. Once the sled begins to "tip" straighten the ski's and just use your weight. At first you might fall and stuff but you will begin to find a balance point with your weight.
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