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: 1990 indy 500 vs  1990 ski-doo formula mx 470


lil indy 500
03-06-2002, 10:49 AM
Who will win, 1990 Indy 500 VS *1990 Ski-Doo Formula MX 470? *Formula MX is stock. *Or inleast I think!! *Indy 500 has a piece of junk clutch kit. *WHo would win between the Indy 500 and a 1992 Phazer 500? * I will tell the results tomorrow after they race!! * * * * *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif

Rocketman
03-06-2002, 10:53 AM
The Doo silver bullet will take both of them no problem. Not even a contest!

z800rotax
03-06-2002, 11:21 AM
I'm a doo guy but i'm gonna have to give it to the indy 500.(providing it's running right)

jwheeler
03-06-2002, 11:44 AM
Turtle vs: Snail, Hmmmmm? *I would have to say the indy for sure in both races.

Rocketman
03-06-2002, 11:52 AM
hahaha...you guys haven't seen this particular indy... http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Bigmac
03-06-2002, 02:36 PM
I'll say the 92 Phazer jetted right and a cold night ,

mudweiser
03-07-2002, 12:04 AM
Personally I have ran this race, my wifes sled '91 formula mx 3,600 miles fresh engine 20 over wiseco forged pistons, orignal clutches, and a track ratcheting problem. My freinds '91 indy 5,500 miles fresh engine 20 over lemans forged pistons, both clutches rebuilt primary w/gold spring, all new suspension and short windshield. Time and time again the doo wins with the track ratcheting all the way. We have never done it but i think the polaris would win top speed.

lil indy 500
03-07-2002, 11:48 AM
Well today my indy 500 and the ski-doo raced. *I won the ski-doo no problem. *But I think me and the phazer are gonna go at it tomorrow. *Mud Weiser, I have a gold spring in my indy, what size weights did you have in? *What rpm did it rev out at? *Mine is 7200. *It used to be 8500 but we put heavier weights in.
* * * * * * * * * * * * Jeff http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif

lil indy 500
03-07-2002, 11:50 AM
Rocketman,
* my indy is in very good shape, it runs excellent, it is a one of a kind Genuine Polaris Indy 500. * http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Rocketman
03-07-2002, 11:53 AM
Must say I am surprised....I never thought that indy would have a chance. Will wonders never cease? http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif

Indy Rocket
08-08-2002, 01:59 PM
If you *really want to smoke them even worse i would suggest that you by a polaris light blue spring for the primary clutch install it with a set of 49.5 or 50 gram weights and install a EPI yello secondary spring with a 42/36 *helix with a new polaris belt also use a 19/39 gear setting and if possible try a 20/39 *if she wind out to fast in 660 if she can pull it to make rpms which is 7800 plus 200 or *200 less and if she can't pull it put a 40/36 in her gut the air box jet up one size and make sure you have good hook up i way 175 pounds and just have fun with them i raced a 2000 ZL 500 and i can take it *not by much but if i can get him of the line i got him in 660 the same with those formula 500 skidoos 470 vmax 500 exciters570 and a few mxz 440 no problem so try this and if you can spare it by a aaen single pipe i also bet xlt's and a vmax 600 with twin pipes in 660 hard to belive but i did well hope this helps you.

Steven Hohman
08-08-2002, 06:38 PM
I wonder if this guy is an active member?

I'm going to place my bet on the phazer, I've taken a few indy 500s with mine, just on a short track though.

performancex
08-09-2002, 02:46 PM
I'ill bet that tiny Phazer will take the Indy.

numberone
08-10-2002, 11:07 PM
you guys who think those sleds can take the little indy must have short memories or just did'nt know? when the 488cc fuji came out in 89, every one was taken by surprise because of its owsome performance and every manufacturer has been trying to match it's performance. 91 to 95 mph top speed. the sd's have a better hole shot but the indy is faster, period. I own a 99 rmk and put a 2'' track on it and tuned it for better fuel mileage and a slite hp gain. it has 34mm carbs and it has such an incredible hole shot and mid range pull, I almost beat a 98 mxz440 to 500 feet. the newer 488 fuji with 38mm flat slid carbs and stronger crank with larger bearings is just plane awsome. it will be faster than mine because it's lighter and has even more power than mine. ps, you don't need to go crazy with all kinds of mods to make it faster. just get yourself a clutch kit from EPI performance and you wont believe the boost in performance. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Team_Arctic
08-12-2002, 02:27 AM
well as long as both sleds are running right and *neither have and advantage i would say that the indy * SHOULD win but the yamy has a chance a good one i rode a 93 and man it has some balls

Steven Hohman
08-12-2002, 02:56 AM
My phazer will run mid 90's (GPS) on hardpack and from 20-70 you need a neck brace.....of coarse, my sled does have some slight modifications.


I'm not familiar with that particular year of indy 500 but I know that the race will be tight if the phazer is in top shape.

jwheeler
08-14-2002, 12:30 AM
how did this old post get dug up, its from march month. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

zr580s rule
08-19-2002, 03:39 AM
what kind of race is 500-660 feet on snow?!

As much as the hookup on snow varies i dont think that short of a race proves anything.

i'd have to put the money on the indy 500 since it's liquid cooled and has much more of an advantage in mid to top-end speed

i have raced many phazers with my 97 ZL 440(RIP) and some have come close up to about 65-75 mph but after that byebye and when i went up against indy 500's it was close til about 50 but thats it

BGTRK19472
08-27-2002, 04:17 PM
If both sleds were bone stock I would have to say the Indy. But if you were to run in cold temp on hardpack or ice with studs on both I would then choose the Phazer which is alot lighter sled and with the cold temp would give up little performance.

Indy Rocket
08-30-2002, 04:57 PM
http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif *Hey Extrem snowmobier i have been a member for 3 years and i will tell you that a good working Indy 500 jetted and clutched will walk all over a PAZHER even if it's on a cold day and if it has work done and give me your email address and i'll send you pictures of me betteing phazers a vmax 600 with twin pipes a mxz 470 and a zl 550 and if i lived close to Monroe Michigon i'd drive to were ever you race at line up my little Indy 500 against your phazer and run you the #### over in 660 Steven Hohman.

z800rotax
08-30-2002, 06:11 PM
This thread may actually last over two different sleddin seasons http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif When the snow comes then we'll get the results http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Rollo D. Motoski
09-02-2002, 06:52 AM
My '88 Indy 400 used to be able to take my friend's Formula MX over 1/2 mile or so. MX would pull away at start but then fall back. They were a lot heavier than the Indy (lots of steel).

Steven Hohman
09-04-2002, 08:29 AM
hey indy rocket, its called a phazer but anyways, I still say that my phazer would probably take it, if it were stock. *I'd welcome that challenge, where do you live?

Indy Rocket
09-04-2002, 04:18 PM
http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif I live in Nova Scotia Canada. Hey i like those phazers there bullit proof and are ok fast for a fan cooled but hey ive betten every phazer ive raced and i really can't see why yours would be any diffrent. *If you raced a stock Indy 500 and a stock Phazer it would be only 2 or 3 lenght in the diffrence in 660 it would depend on the weather and hole shot but on top end the indy would walk away. I would really like to race with you to see what you got ? I'll tell you what i have done to mine. I have a super torque clutch kit with a moddifided pipe i have 38 carberaters with UFOs a 1 inch polaris raceing track no studes and have rebelt my engine bored/honed over 20,000 over with new bareing seals ect and had it blue printed plush i have lightend it up a little bit it's a big bite to swallo for a moddified phazer it is an awsome tight twisty trail machine well i told you what i have to play with what are you packing?

Steven Hohman
09-07-2002, 08:27 PM
I've made very few mods compaired to you....

I put a DG pipe on it, had a clutch kit put on it from the dealer which IMO made the sled wake up, and I also have a 1 inch Camoplast Predator track and I am thinking of putting some studs into it. *I am sure that you would womp me after 500, but I may keep up within 1-5 sled lengths if we were to race 660

Indy Rocket
09-08-2002, 08:29 AM
http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif Hey with those parts it would be a race i'd like to try both of them out but were in two diffrent countrys so? No one around my area has a phazer done up like yours most only have a clutch kit and maybe a thiner head gasket ect but i only did those modiffcations last year except *i had EPI clutch kit was ok performance increase. No matter what kind of snowmobile you have you think it flys but the way i think no matter how fast you think your snowmobile is theres all ways some one out there that can bet you. I figure your phazer goes good never saw it in person but i justed asummed that i'd bet you from the races i had with the phazers around hear and that it's a polaris never ment to piss you off but I hope you didn't mean to piss me off peace.

Steven Hohman
09-08-2002, 03:57 PM
Alrighty, man, Lets call it even and end this subject, k?

vmax
11-08-2003, 09:28 PM
indy rocket your 500 will not beat a vmax 600 with twin pipes ,u say u can if so whos was it?

485ccofphazer
11-08-2003, 09:43 PM
I drove an stock Indy 500 and it was fast. I haven't ever drove a Phazer...
But since I like Phazers. The Phazer will win, foo's!
(P.S) I like Steven Hohman's Phazer.....mines getting rebuilt top to bottom, DG PIPE, (getting Boyesen reeds) and a Comet 102c clutch. Track is ####.
Phazer power!!

Good2Go
11-08-2003, 11:00 PM
i'll race my '89 mx against the phazer and the indy. i am bone stock. :sarcasm: :p

2blu7
11-08-2003, 11:59 PM
Well, back in 89-90 I had a 88 mx 470 with stage 1 mods by Brad Hulings and most 570, 500 and 530 sleds couldn't touch it. Nowadays, Im have 91 indy 500 project that I have been tinkering with. I put a set of twin pipes, gutted the box, added 300 mains for starters, put the Hi-Comp head gasket and matched up the ex. ports. It also has a 2001 MXZX camoplast track with 96 studs. I know that I will have to add weight to the primary, because it will pull 8500-8750 with the stock pipe on grass when it's 50 degrees!! I picked up some Fox Shox for the front and added new oem shocks and springs to the rear along with a skid plate and low windshield. I wish I knew how to post pic's. I love this old ride. It will be easier to "putt" around with than my 02 700.

Good2Go
11-09-2003, 02:24 PM
to post pics in your reply click " add reply" then scroll down then click "browse for pics" then select the destination where the picture u want is then double click on the picture.