I've been reading this forum since last winter, and recently started contributing. I've noticed a few things about the Yamaha forum, and Yamaha riders in general. The group I typically ride with consists of about 12 people who ride either a Yammie or a Skidoo, it's about 50/50. We've had a couple Yamaha riders switch to Skidoo this year, and a couple Skidoo riders switch to Yamaha, most notably myself. I've come to realize a few things about the Yammie guys I've been riding with, that I've also noticed is prevalent in this forum.

The Yamaha forum is QUIET. You don't see posts that read - 'Which is faster.....", which invariably lead to a barking match between guys riding different brands. It's almost as though the manufacturers were paying them to ride their machines. Loyal to a fault. And the Yammie guys I ride with rarely ever have a bad thing to say about anything. They rarely ever call up a race. They rarely ever brag about who beat who. And to be quite honest, the Yamaha's I ride with are the fastest in my group. Any one of them would gladly trade for 10 or 20 miles and get off my old Skidoo with nothing but praise for it.

Another observation is that you rarely ever see Yamaha rider out on the trails riding like an idiot. You know, the guy who's passing his buddy while going around a corner and runs you off the trail?? Sure, there are exceptions (please don't post your experiences!!).

Maybe this is why I've decided to jump ship this year. That REV certainly was tempting (even a die-hard Yamaha, Polaris or Arctic Cat guy can't deny that these things ride awesome).

I guess a more sophicated machine breeds a more sophisticated rider.

Happy Trails!

I noticed the exact same thing when I came on board last year after over 20 years on Doo.

What I've noticed about yama riders (I use to be one),is they may not be the ones to throw down the gauntlet but are the first to pick it up. :D

I think that was summed up pretty good. All the Yamaha forums are fairly quite. Why? I'm not real sure on that one. I do know that our brand of choice seems to take a beating by the general sled public. I'm not sure why on that one either. I don't know if it's because its a non-domestic product and some harbor feelings of Yamaha buyers being unpatriotic by choosing to ride something made in a country other than our own. If that's the reason, most with that opinion would be classified by me as fairly simple minded, non global thinkers.

Maybe Yamaha has found it only wants to appeal to a certain demographic and chooses to keep it's focus on its product within that specific circle of consumers. I think I fall in that category. And, going on your overall obseravations Hossman, I believe that it's because of this, that most Yamaha sled drivers are somewhat the same. We don't complain much, we don't verablize inconsequencial mumbo jumbo, we tend not to bash, although along the same lines, most Yamaha owners find themselves having to defend why they ride the "Blue". Again, as you mentioned, there are always exceptions to the rule, but I've found that those who share the "tuning fork" are a different breed of snowmobiler.

What I have noticed about "us" is we're more interested in the machines; how they operate, how they work, how they're fixed, repaired, maintained. These subjects seem to be prevalent in the majority of posts on most Yamaha forums. And, one of the main reasons why I choose this brand was the commaradrie (sp?) of everyone as a group. I've made many friends since my purchase and received an unbelievable amount of help in many questions that have arisen. It seems we are all quick to help and that's usually the content of most the threads.

For those of you reading that are non Yamaha riders, I should mention that this is my opinion and simply an observation that I have been able to prove after a couple years of staring at a screen. Not only that, but I have been fortunate enough to get out there on the trails with these folks and build solid relationships.

I have friends of all colors, and I have friends that ride all colors. I view this sport as a gathering of friends and an opportunity to have exciting times together regardless of their ride. Because of this, I try not to participate in the extremely childish, immature, and often selfish expressions that sometimes fog a lot of forums. It serves no purpose and takes away from the heart of our hobby. I guess you could say I migrate towards people like me.....................again, regardless of what they ride.

But, the bottom line is, the Yamaha forums seem to keep the quality of information that I want to maintain.

The Yamaha riders are just a different breed. An easy goin', know they ride the best, take it or leave it kind of snowmobiler. I hope to join the ranks when I get out of college and can afford an SX Viper :inlove: , gotta love the triple.

maybe that is why i find myself in the yamaha forum the most even though i ride a ski-doo....

i am hoping to get an rx next year but i was hoping for an 600 or 750

Originally posted by ecopter@Nov 18 2003, 07:39 PM
I have friends of all colors, and I have friends that ride all colors.
I couldn't have said it better myself.

I think there's an openmindedness that is more prevalent in Blue society. One big factor in this is - and I mean no disrespect to anyone - Yamaha riders tend to be more mature (read: older). At 31, I'm probably in the lower quadrant of the age spectrum. I think it takes a person who's "been there" and "done that" to look at our sport in an objective manner.

Having said that, think I'll jump over to the Arctic Cat forum and ask the guys if they a Mach Z can beat a T-Cat. HA HA!! Ok, at 31, maybe I'm still a little immature.

If I were to venture a guess as a non-yamaha owner, I would say it relates to performance. Sure, Yamaha has some sleds that have whooped up on the competition in the past, but for the most part, the yamaha sleds don't have the horsepower and overall performance capabilities as the other sleds.

What Yamaha offers in return is reliability, consistancy, and an overall higher quality product. This difference will attract a different group. It's not the hot-head kids & young adults that want to run at WOT all day and all night... it's generally a crowd of more mature people with different interests, which translates into the lack of bickering and overall stupidity you see passed about around the other forums.

I see the same situation on various car forums. I see the same stupid bickering and attitudes on f-body websites as I do here, because it's the same type of personalities. Likewise, a jeep forum or cadillac forum is more likely to have a different type of people.

Or something like that. :whatever:

Excellent post, Jim. That pretty describes me!

Jon

I just thought most of the members here at sw.com seem to ride Skidoo or Cat.

I visit a yamaha-only forum that is very active :cool:

we'r just realy cool people on realy cool machine's :D






mine is faster than your's :devil:

Have you noticed how many of the 'other' colors come here to bash Yamahas? We have some good discussions with good information, then someone will come in from the doo or cat side and start throwing crap. Do they feel threatened by Yamahas? Seems so. I get lots of good info from this forum.

there childish LITTLE men
jealous of our good looks :devil: SWRules

it's funny how i can get beat by all my friends and laugh about it but when they beat each other,out come the excuses................ :D

Originally posted by powder@Nov 20 2003, 08:55 PM
it's funny how i can get beat by all my friends and laugh about it but when they beat each other,out come the excuses................ :D
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Now that's FUNNY!! That sure is the truth, and sometimes that hurts!reality! :huh: who me?

I myself switched to yamaha machines this year. I bought a new 2003 yamaha r6 and its the most outstanding flawless perfect fitting machine i've ever ridden.... not a single flaw and it does everything so amazing.

I've ridden all the new 03 600 sportbikes and the r6 hands down is great.

This influenced along with the triple motor my decision on what sled to buy this winter. I bought an 01 sx 700r. From going through it pre-season to check it all out, i find that it fits me great, is built really well, and things seem well placed and precision fitting.

Overall i'm rather impressed with yamahas, I'm impressed with their website which is awesome (parts microfiche and owners manuals all online), and the pricing you can get oem parts for is generally a lot cheaper then other manufacturers, especially the bike parts.

Their fit and finish is excellent and from what i've been reading so is the reliability.

I also own an F-body but I dont have the attitude that is seen on F-body forums as previously posted...

I will defend my preference of 8 cylinders over 4 cylinder "jap scrap import racer wannabes" but this is an educated choice.... why mod the hell outta a 4 cyl and spend 15 grand in mods to make it as fast as a stock camaro that will be 25x more reliable since its stock along with 20 other reasons.

Back to the yamaha thing, i think the forums on yamaha side are quieter since less people ride them, but I do notice people are always comparing and bashing against the yammies so that tells you something...... ITS A GOOD THING TO BE THE BRAND THAT EVERYONE COMPARES THEIR OTHER MAKES TO!!!


LATER,

GERARD

Yea, the Yamaha site never has anyone talking. Which I think is a good thing really, just less crap getting posted.

I think us yamariders are infact, shy/quite.

It was mentioned earlier that other brand riders tend to be careless. ABSOLUTLY correct!!! my riding friends are always off the trail. its all about respect though. if you pay 4000 for a used 700 yamaha, and 2800 for a cat 700 which one would you pay respect too???... SWRules

Regarding Yammy owners, it's lonely at the top. Yamaha has a perfect balance of quality, reliability, performance, comfort, style. To use a car comparison, a TransAm may be faster than a BMW, and a Miata may corner better than a BMW, but for the total package offered, I'll take a BMW (Yam). :cool:

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Nice topic, nice post, calm, quiet, everybody getting along. Right up to the point you posted.

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I'd love to get it 'out on the trail where it belongs', but unfortunately, still no snow. So, in the meantime, I was just pointing out an observation I noted about the guys I ride with. It may not even be true, I was just curious. No 'pat on the back' here, I'm still not officially Yamaha rider (haven't taken her out yet!). It wasn't my intention to get start a fraternity for 'quiet & refined whiners'. And Dave, if you saw the vehicle which adorned my driveway, you'd really have your foot in your mouth with the Beemer & Escalade comment.

The point was that in my opinion, the guys I've ridden with who ride Yamaha are generally a lot more open-minded and less arrogant. I could have easily posted this topic last year, when I owned a Skidoo. And chances are good that I'll probably own a Skidoo again, they make an excellent machine, and I've had very good luck with them. I was making an observation as an outsider, and this is probably at least partially the reason why I bought a Yamaha this year. After years of listening to "mines better than yours", it'll be kind of nice to sit on the sidelines. I don't ever remember hearing a Yamaha guy claim to have the best machine - maybe because we're big enough to admit that we don't.