sureynot
12-04-2003, 03:41 PM
I'm in the process of diagnosing a problem in my in-law's '98 Summit X 670. Just took out of storage and it runs, but won't stay running. The thing is it will only run on the primer; no fuel is getting to the carbs just air in the lines. It will die if not continuelessly primed. I've disassembled and cleaned the fuel pump, checked the crankcase hoses/connections to the fuel pump and dpm air pump, all seems ok. If I hook up a hose to the impulse fitting on the fuel pump and suck/blow suck/blow etc it will pump fuel no problem, telling me the pump is good but the crankcase pressure is bad. Also, this motor had the pto seal replaced after a burndown 2yrs ago and ran fine ever since, but now suddenly this? So I was going to pressure test the crankcase and check for leaks, but I was wondering the best way to do this, and if there are cover plates for the exhaust/intake available from skidoo or if I need to fabricate them on my own??
rob7374
12-04-2003, 04:28 PM
There is a great article on this in one of the current sled mag's out on the news stands right now. Can't remember which one. See if you can find it.
Thumbdoctor
12-04-2003, 04:46 PM
There is an engine tester kit that most dealers will have P/N 861749100 which has all the covers and plugs. Personally, I use a pair of plumbing rubbers on the exhaust ports and smaller ones on the carb boots. Each size of the plugs I siliconed a tire valve stem (schrader valve) to pressurize the system with a small tire pump which has a pressure gage on it. You could use a tire gage to check pressure in a pinch. Use a spray bottle with soapy water to spray all gaskets and look for bubbles in the RV oil supply & return hoses.
LB700
12-04-2003, 05:40 PM
That's a great idea Thumbdoctor!
I use a pair of plumbing rubbers on the exhaust ports and smaller ones on the carb boots.
Can you ellaborate on the plumbng rubbers you're talking about -- I haven't seen anything like that in hardware stores, have I?
Thumbdoctor
12-04-2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by LB700@Dec 4 2003, 05:40 PM
That's a great idea Thumbdoctor!
Can you ellaborate on the plumbng rubbers you're talking about -- I haven't seen anything like that in hardware stores, have I?
Rubber plugs for sinks
LB700
12-04-2003, 05:50 PM
Well, duh..... :blush:
Now I get it -- thanks!
sureynot
12-05-2003, 12:06 AM
Looks like I'm off to the hardware store to get some plumbing rubbers! :p But like I mentioned above, the pto seal was replaced 2 yrs ago- about 500 miles- gotta love the past few MN winters... I took off the clutch and the seal looks rather bad. Check out the pic; any opinions it's shot?? Appears to have a little grease/oil around the lip, is this normal?
sureynot
12-05-2003, 12:09 AM
Ok, second try on the picture
rob7374
12-05-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by rob7374@Dec 4 2003, 04:28 PM
There is a great article on this in one of the current sled mag's out on the news stands right now. Can't remember which one. See if you can find it.
I found the mag. It's the latest edition of Snogoer Canada. May not be available in the states but it does a good job showing what is needed and how to perform it.
I would either rebuild or replace the fuel pump b4 I went any further if I were you. Very doubtfull a seal is causing your problems. My guess is the pump is bad or has some crud in it from sitting over the summer.
Thumbdoctor
12-05-2003, 04:37 PM
Just a funny side note on finding engine vacuum / pressure leaks.
Q: How'd the shadetree mechanic loose his eyebrows and mustach?
A: He attached a propane bottle to his fuel pump primer line and used a match to find the leak, boom, found it !!!
DGZRT
12-06-2003, 10:22 AM
look in the brand new snowgoer for jan. on page 36 under the how to section. they cover compression checks and leak down checks.
dan