My buddy from work just told me the new yamaha bike with the same engine as the RX1 snowmobile will have fuel injection this summer.His dad owns a Yamaha dealership.Who wants to go over and tell the Yamaha site.L.O.L http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

How about you squish band...go with God... http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Hey rocketman how'd ya move this whole post over from the ski-doo site ,have to remember this for next time , well maybe yamaha will produce fuel injection before production starts.

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Just a special ability bestowed on us moderators... http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif

Yamaha already has fuelie 140 hp RX1 watercraft too. Old News. They will sell more sleds the second year when they give sledders the fuelie to trade for. 648 pounds wet, ouch. Mountain version 660 lb. I hope people have good luck with them, it will be good for the sport. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif

Big deal! Fuel injection dosn&#39;t make that big a difference on a 4-stroke like it would on a 2-stroke. *2-strokes need it for spot on jetting while 4-strokes alrady have a broader band. *Fuel injection would simply clean up the emmissons a little bit more. *If you check squise band you will find out that HP numbers are about the same for both motors.

Fuel injection would make the engine smoother, more reliable, easier to start cold, give you perfect set up, Max out performance, and give you better fuel economy. *

I got a Carbed Camaro and what a pain in the A$$. *I like my trucks Fuel Injection much better.

Sounds like the mightyRX1 is getting defensive.....Maybe a little worried about you new purchase.....just a guess http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

I dont&#39; think I would be worried if I was getting a RX1 this year. It&#39;s going to be endless source of power.

I will trade for my SxR700...Ha.Ha.

Nothing is going to touch it. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

So you think snowextreme.........I think my sled will touch the one that went pop at the races....Talk about good advertizing........

Like what was discussed on the Ski-doo a couple of weeks ago, they keep adding things year by year to obsolete the previous year&#39;s models.

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fuel injected is a lot better on gas too!

The RX-1 was 551 lbs.it was not to big, *not 648 lbs man (SHARKEY)
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The MachZ was 559
The RX-1 was 8 lbs less
IT WAS VERY GOOD SNOWMOBILE *RX-1 http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif

648 Wet in snowmobile Magazine, last issue. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif

Of course filled with gas! *What do you think my freakin mach weighed wet?

The rx-1 is either gonna be a huge flop or it will be a major factor in the changes about to enter the entire sleddin industry.I personally think it will be a contributer in some of the changes we will see over the next few years.Ya gotta give yammi credit cause they definately are going for something entirely different with the rx1.

The RX-1 is a scary deal....I will have to wait and see what happens before I spend my cash on one. I have heard so many stories about this sled that I would be worried if I snow checked one. My friend went to the show and was looking at the RX-1 and he said you were not allowed near the unit and on the *front bumper there was a sign that said not to pull or lift because it was a proto type bumper....hmmm I think they are worried about something. In all the mags that I have read they always say good things about the power and how fast it is top end but They have never said anything about hole shot or short races in the ditch.....The mags always say who has the fastest sled when they test and *rate them... always evasive answers when it comes to the RX-1.....Yamaha was never a heavy player in snowmobiling and I dont predict anything to change with the RX-1......Not in the first few years anyway. Just mt two cents

Not a heavy player? *They were #1 in the late 70&#39;s and into the early 80&#39;s.

Here&#39;s a quote from Maximumsled:
During our limited test runs of the suspension on rough trails, we found the front to be very comfortable and controllable at any speed, while the rear soaked up the bumps in the same fashion as the SX Viper, making the RX-1 a sled that would be comfortable all day on the trails.

And American snowmobiler:

What is this sled like to ride?

Impressively different. Like we said at the beginning, this sled feels, acts, rides and handles like a snowmobile. First and foremost Yamaha has created a snowmobile. Secondarily this sled has an incredibly smooth, yet impressively powerful engine that just happens to be a four-stroke. The sled drives like a two-stroke on steroids. This 998cc power plant has attitude from the moment you twist the key and fire it up all the way up to top speed — wherever that may be! In a quarter mile we were consistently in triple digits very, very quickly. Cruising at 80-plus mph we could push the butterfly carbs to wide open and feel the sled charge ahead. At 100 mph the prototype test sleds had plenty of performance left. Heck at 124 mph the digits were just starting to come up slowly. There is a herd of power under the narrow razor nosed hood.

While ride time and miles were limited, the ProAction suspension system seemed to be as promised. We have liked the Viper setup and the new RX-1 rear unit seems to be able to soak up moguls well. We’ll see when more snows come our way. As mentioned before, the front end sticks extremely well.

Cmon lets not hang around in the past.........In the 80&#39;s the Pinto and Vega were *players.....where are they now??

Hey head, I&#39;m simply knocking your comment that Yamaha was never a heavy player and they were.

It just hit me, the Pinto and Vegas were players? *Get real.

Ford and Chevy sold alot of them doesnt mean they were any good........LOL

They really dont tell you how it is before the 80mph mark.......My friends ZL600EFI will be in the 3 digits in a qurter mile......as a matter of fact you would be hard pressed to find a sled that cant do it.......

I think that yamaha has a good sled in that 4 stroke. Maybe it won&#39;t be the fastest on the lake or trail for that matter but it won&#39;t be the slowest either.
i am not a yamahappy fan but they are putting alot of time in there new sleds, design wise and they are also making decent triples.
In the next few years if everyone else drops there triples, i would lay money alot of triple type guys will be buying yamaha.
If yamahas 4 stroke works well this year, then next year they will only get better.
I have a friend that has one on order but he is hanging on to his xcr800 until he gets the rx-1 and test the sled out.
Yamaha is coming back and the other top 3 companies better wake up and see the pressure that yamaha is creating to steal there business.
just my 2 cents

I heard Yamaha has been working on a 700cc series engine to replace the 1000cc. I heard that the 700 series is suposed to be just as strong as the current RX-1 but will lighten up the sled.........Also on the Cat front I heard that Cat has a 750 GSX engine stuffed into a sled chassie already and have been testing. The GSX engine is class leader so I would bet my money that cat is on the edge waiting to see the response that *Yamaha has with the RX-1........

It&#39;s my understanding that cat has the 1300 Hyabusa engine in a sled. *I also doubt that Yamaha has a 750 in the works, there is very little difference in weight but a substantial difference in torque which is really needed in moving a sled. *I do know that they are working on an 850 twin based on the YZ 426 dirt bike motor.

I absolutely believe that if Yamaha has success with the RX-1 that you will see a smallbore version. Think about it, it makes sense for someone who wants a lighter punch than the RX, with the advantages of a four stoke. What four it is will be another issue, but they could try out the engine from their 600-750cc bikes, and if I had to lay my money down I would bet they already are, as well as the other manufacturers.

Getting back to the topic about the RX-1 being outdated. *

There is no way that this machine is going to be outdated for a long time. *It has one of the most sofisticated 4 stroke racing engines ever made. *The chassie is also top notch. *If doo didnt exsist then i would be all over this one. *

I just dont like the idea of having a 4 stroke but that doesnt mean i dont like it. *

Fact is that this machine is awsome and even if it doesnt live up to the hype it will still probably be one of the top 3 fastest sleds if not the fastest. *

As for yamaha being all protective of this sled. *Of cource they are. Just today i went doing my job (sales) and walked into a company that organizies big shows like the snowmobile show here in toronto. *They had the RX-1 in there and they were also the people that put together the introduction show. * Anyway I got a good look at this thing and i liked it. *It is very clean with good fit and finish. *Welds look very thick and stong, so does the frame. *The engine is positioned very well and the exhaust out the back looks clean and very good. * As for the weight. *Well i lifted the back up and the back is very light (much lighter then the mach.) *But when i tried to lift the front it was heavy. *It is heavier then the mach because i can lift the front of the mach with ease. *All in all it is a amazing sled that proves yamaha is a competitor. *

As for buying one next year. *I wont but i wouldnt be worried. *I never worry about buying somthing first year. *Thats what R&D is for and i trust them. *Because if i was the person testing this stuff for reliability i would complain about everything that went wrong and i would drive the crap out of it. *They probably put more miles on this sled they you will ever do in your life. *The only thing that remains is the test of time which is always a gamble. *

So im not going to bad mouth yamaha or this machine till i see one on the trails next year and see what it can really do. *

Now if they brought out fuel injection the next year i would be a bit disapointed that i got the carbed version but carbs are proven and 99% of sleds out there have them. *Fuel injection may save you some gas but the power will still be the same.

I hope everyone that ordered one has luck with it and is happy with it because thats all that matters.

Nice post machzzzz1 and it&#39;s appreciated.

It&#39;s nice to see more open minded people about this exciting new product. I&#39;m very anxious to start tweeking on this beast.

They are going to have to come out with a sled between the touring thumpers that the other 3 are playing with and the RX1. Like a previous poster said, there are people that will want a 4 stroke that is equivalent to your average 600 2 stroker.

Maybe they will offer both efi and carbed.I&#39;m thinkin the performance guys are hoping for carbs as they are much simpler to perform heavy mods too.

Dont be so sure. *A good efi system with a computer terminal would make for some very accurate adjustments. *Like with doos MPEM computer. *There is software that allows you to adjust the dpm carbs and timing and almost every system. *Cars are the same. *Look at the AC efi system you can buy chips for it to make it faster. * Carbs are by far a favorite but you will never have the accuracy of a good fuel injection system like the ones on 4 strokes. *

Remember a 4 stroke can use a O2 sensor so the engine will be dialed in to a tee for every race or run. *It would be nice showing up at a race knowing your engine is there and all you have to worry about is clutching and suspention.

Hey sledhead, like the saying goes, "those that can&#39;t yak alot".

Machzzzz1,
* * Call the Doo Crew, Machzzzz1 Made way to many positive comments on the RX-1!! He must be sick, hurry help him. I&#39;m glad you were able to see the RX-1 in person Machzzzz1. Even more plesed that you approved of the sled. You are a very dicerning sledder so your opinion speaks volumes for the RX-1. You had better watch it though, you may just get tempted to buy one next year. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Caleb

From what i have read the RX1 was run against an SRX and a MXZ800 in one of the promotions and it easily beat both in the 1/4 mile.

If somebody has a copy of the last Canadian Snow Goer (I can&#39;t find mine) http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleepy.gif Fill us in on how the RX 1 ran. From what I remember, The MXZ was fairly close to the RX1.

Also, I work with a guy that has snow checked a RX1, so I&#39;ll be able to find out how things go with his sled. He&#39;s selling a Indy 500 in the Evolved chassis.

Sled dog thanks for the complement. *I am tempted to try one but im not tempted to buy one. *

I love riding for 2 reasons the fresh air and the 2 stroke whine. *

I love 2 strokes and I love the smell of oil buring. *

However I was impressed with the way the RX-1 looked and felt. *It is a good winner. *

I wont lie about a sled or about how I felt I will just speak my opinion for those who want to listen. *

I can promise you that when you see this machine you cant help but be impressed.

Machzzzz1, you say you like the sound of the 2-stroke whine (you must be talking about the triple), wait till you hear that in-line four whine!

Machzzzz1,
* *I ordered two RX-1ER Limiteds in Liquid Silver. It&#39;s the same color the new R-1 Street bike is painted this year. It&#39;s a very sharp color for the sled. I can&#39;t wait to tweak the one though. Stock will last about one week. then I&#39;m coming for you and that trip/trip. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Caleb

If you need a backup Mach z1111, *I have the quickest stock Mach Z in drags the last couple years on ice. Mine is itching to stretch your arm ligaments. It is set up for drags at any time. Too bad we live apart, I live in Minnesota. WE could try each others sleds out. It sounds like fun anyway. Next winter we will at least radar against the Rx-1, even if they don&#39;t have a drag class for the 4 strokes.

If your going to race a Mach Z you should install rear view mirrors so you can see the look on his face as you blow him away.

LOL.. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Sled dogg. *If you really do go ahead and turbo your RX-1 your sled might have a chance of keeping up to my 340 everest. *If you add twin turbo and maybe about 50000.00 of mods and get it tweeked but the best you might stand a chance of being able to read my snowflap. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The money I will save in fuel and oil will definately pay for the Turbo http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The cheapest i could find a turbo was 4950 us for my machZ.
Areocharger.
By the time you save that from oil changes and a bit of saved fuel.
the sled will be 50 years old.

Aerocharger says about $4000 for the RX-1. I don&#39;t think I&#39;ll be seeing a mud flap machzzzz1. Members here have gotten me thinking of the centr-super charger though for ease of clutching.. I&#39;ts going to be a fun season.
Caleb