Riding on a lake in Northern Ontario this weekend.

Temperature --- 7 degrees C, really WARM!

Results on radar.

2003 RX1 totally stock, 2400 miles, brand new belt, rider weight 210 lbs without suit helmet etc. 2000 ft approx.

113.5 mph on radar 128 mph on speedo.
***note. had to really hug the sled to get this mph...would run 109 with wind resistance!

The sled revs about 9200 and moves to about 10,100rpm

2004 F7 brand new, totally stock.
109 mph on radar, 112 on speedo

2003 ZR900 stock with clutch work.
109 mph on radar.

Race results:

Raced the F7, pulled him out of the hole, he passed me in the mid range and moved ahead about a sled length and stayed there.

I will be cluching, in the near future to get some more speed in the mid range.

I also will be installing windage plates, cr10ek plugs, exhaust, ecp filter kit, & heelclicker kit in the near future, one at a time and doing some stage tuning.

Stay Tuned!

P.S. I kept hearing how good the ZR900's are in all of the mags. Pretty disapointing....the sled worked well, but not the "King of the Lake" like the books say!

You have to watch what you read!

:thumbsup: Its always good to read a good HONEST review. Admitting that the F7 beat your rx-1 takes guts :lol: J/J Like you say though you can't really believe the mags, if they do a bad review they are scared that they would loose advertising dollars.

Good info. I have 2 friends with the f7's a 03 and 04,also another friend has 2 rx1's very nice sleds all of them. Whithout all the bs does anyone know what a stock 98ish T-cat radars at?

thats very good speed for those temps.....wich lake?? :)

I can also get the midrange out of my f7, but I wasnt able to get the hole (no studs,,,,,) so I just added 136 and will have to see if that helps me any,,,,

it's nice to know that all those sanctioned snowmobile drags across North America are showing wrong results.

Originally posted by paul yarek@Dec 30 2003, 12:08 PM
it's nice to know that all those sanctioned snowmobile drags across North America are showing wrong results.
Yes sanctioned with pro-tuners and such. These are real world results Paul. I would want to see the results after Heavy Hitters were installed on the RX-1 :D

Isn't it funny how that Huge pig can run with that light F-7 :p

Imagine if the weights were more comparable :undercover:

If the RX-1 radared with a faster speed, why wouldn't it real in the F7 if was beat out of the whole? Your information conflicts!

Originally posted by jayjaysin@Dec 30 2003, 01:46 PM
If the RX-1 radared with a faster speed, why wouldn't it real in the F7 if was beat out of the whole? Your information conflicts!
because it takes time to catch up. On a long race it sure would have, based on the information given.

FishHog

RX-1 is a great sled. Its biggest complaint is weight. I talked to guys who put on 10,000 miles on their RX-1 last year with NO problems. Only changed belts, hi fax and oil. How many sleds can claim that? Certainly not the F7.

Originally posted by FishHog@Dec 30 2003, 03:00 PM
because it takes time to catch up. On a long race it sure would have, based on the information given.

FishHog
That's right. I talked to the guy, the radar speed was on a long straightaway. Where the race against each sled was like 660 feet.

i can say that a 98 t cat will pull 113mph on radar on hard packed snow the 00 and newer will pull 108 ish.... this is with nothing done to the sleds now i dont you tcat guys getting excited now... now if you do what every else the speed will change as (air box mod,clutching,reeds,ect). these are some pretty good results and i think they are pretty accurate. the zr 900 most likely slowed him self down with the clutching but must have gained in acceleration

10000 miles in one season.

Hmm....sounds a little fishy to me. Lets say you had 3 months of good riding weather, which is almost impossible nowadays. You would have to run 111 miles, everyday, for 90 days straight. Condisering that most of us are gainfully employed, and to have a new RX-1, you would certainly not be collecting pogey, knock 5 days out of the 7 of possible riding days. Let's recalculate, in that 3 months, you end up with 24 days to ride, 4x2x3, (weekends basically), so now we are talking pulling off a staggering average of 416 miles per day, 24 times.

who smells a rat?



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Originally posted by Tiggyboot@Dec 30 2003, 03:45 PM
10000 miles in one season.

Hmm....sounds a little fishy to me.* Lets say you had 3 months of good riding weather, which is almost impossible nowadays. You would have to run 111 miles, everyday, for 90 days straight. Condisering that most of us are gainfully employed, and to have a new RX-1, you would certainly not be collecting pogey, knock 5 days out of the 7 of possible riding days. Let's recalculate, in that 3 months, you end up with 24 days to ride, 4x2x3, (weekends basically), so now we are talking pulling off a staggering average of 416 miles per day, 24 times.

who smells a rat?



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Why would you knock 5 days out of the week?? Not everyone lives in the city and has to trailer to ride. I personally ride 3 nights a week (when there's snow :cussing: ) and on the weekend. 10,000 miles is not outside of the realm of possibility for me. However, the most I've ever done in a season is about 10,000kms, which I realize is only 60% of the claim, but I could have easily done more.

With last year's snowfall, there's little doubt in my mind that some guys racked up 10,000 miles.

BTW, the longest season I remember lasted about 5 full months.

OH - almost forgot - and I am gainfully employed!

Originally posted by Tiggyboot@Dec 30 2003, 03:45 PM
10000 miles in one season.
tiggy,
those people out there in the east get 5 month's rideable.

10,000 miles certainly is attainable, there is no magic to it. In 1999 from the beginning of february to the end of march I put over 4500 miles. I am self-employed, I live in the country right on the border of quebec, and I have no problem with putting 2500 miles on in 10 days or so. There is one guy in this region who consistently puts 10,000 miles on per year.

Originally posted by Tiggyboot@Dec 30 2003, 04:45 PM
10000 miles in one season.

Hmm....sounds a little fishy to me. Lets say you had 3 months of good riding weather, which is almost impossible nowadays. You would have to run 111 miles, everyday, for 90 days straight. Condisering that most of us are gainfully employed, and to have a new RX-1, you would certainly not be collecting pogey, knock 5 days out of the 7 of possible riding days. Let's recalculate, in that 3 months, you end up with 24 days to ride, 4x2x3, (weekends basically), so now we are talking pulling off a staggering average of 416 miles per day, 24 times.

who smells a rat?



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Go read about the guy in snowtech. There was an article in there about him and the sled an issue or 2 back.

I remember seeing that article,,,,did it on one set of either carbides or hyfax,,,, quite a story

And when it's a new sled you tend to ride more :)

Man, that would be some fuel bill for a season of riding. Can't imagine doing that with our 600's, just cost's a fortune.
Am hearing alot of stuff on this site with regards to the ZR 900 not being so fast, but every mag I've read raves about the power! Guess as always there are ton's of variables.

Not taking anything away from those results but let's face it, those temps are anything but ideal for the two stroke crowd.

As for yearly mileage, I rode just over 7000 miles last season and have to trailer to ride every one of them.

Rick.
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Originally posted by ZR Sled Head@Dec 30 2003, 07:18 PM
Not taking anything away from those results but let's face it, those temps are anything but ideal for the two stroke crowd.


I agree especially with the zr-9, but the F-7 is a fuelie and should be the most spot on of the 3.

With the guy on the 900 only running 109mph in 2000', he had to either be jetted way wrong for those temps. and/or have his clutching set up for something other than lake running. 109mph is more like 1000' speeds for the 900. :sarcasm:

i know a few locals that have done 10000 mile years,i did 7000 in 1987 and that was working 6 days a week.i just rode to work most days and went riding from work most days,no big deal.

yeah like i said i dont think that the 900 was spot on but the results are a little consistant with what we have seen around here. as far as the 7and 9 are conserened but our rx1`s have not been that strong but not far off.so it could all come down to conditions.

i saw the article in a snowgoer magazine about the 10,000miles on an RX-1 in one season and they had a picture of the speedo on the RX-1 and it read 10,003. No lie.

You would think so on the F-7 but keep in mind those type of temps are most likely outside or on the edge of what it is calibrated to adjust / compensate for. Let's see the same runs but at far lower temps..........now your talkin high performance results, especially from the 2 strokers. :D :D :D


Rick.
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it never ceases to amaze me how an honest post can be beat up by people who don't ride the winning brand. :crazy: get over it.................maybe tomorrow your brand will win. :D

next year if the 2005 rx-1 is like the new yamaha motorcycle for 2004 there will be alot more horsepower and torque then "i" will take a second look. the new rx yamaha motorcycle is supposed to be the fastest 2 wheeler on the street hands down.

SLEDHEADED I BELIEVE WHAT U R SAYING BUT THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE
WITH A ZR 900 IF IT HAD REVERSE ON IT TOP SPEED IS 109 I HAD THE SAME
PROBLEM THEN I CHANGED THE GEARS AND IT RAN 117 NOW THIS IS ON A 2003
I WAS ON A TRIP WITH 5 RX1 SOME HAD CLUTCH KITS SOME WERE STOCK
WE HIT A RAIL BED FOR 150 KIL TOWARDS CHIBOUGAMOU NORTHERN QUEBEC
THE 900 WAS FASTER THAN ANY RX1 THAT DAY BUT NOT LIKE THA MAGAZINES
WOULD HAVE U THINK MINE HAD V FORCE POWER BREATHER MY OWN CLUTCH KIT THE RX1 IS A NICE SLED ON BIG OPEN TRAIL I PUT 250 MILES ON ONE LAST
YEAR BUT NOT ON TIGHT TRAILS HAPPY NEW YEARS.

TIGGYBOOT I PUT 9600 MILES LAST YEAR ITS NOT A PROBLEM U NEED A GOOD
WIFE WHEN U TELL HER IN NOVEMBER THAT U WILL SEE HER IN APRIL
AND U NEED A GOOD STAFF I TAKE 6 WEEKS OFF TO SLED ALL OVER QUEBEC
AND NORTHERN ONT 250-300 MILE DAYS R NORMAL I LIVE IN NOTHERN ONT
ON A LAKE WHERE WHEN I GET HOME FROM WORK THE MAIN TRAIL IS IN FRONT
OF THE HOUSE AND U CAN PUT 150 MILES A NIGHT NO PROBLEM I DIVORCE MY
SLED EVERY APRIL 10.000 MILE YEARS R NOT A PROBLEM IF U HAVE TIME AND
MONEY I DODNT WANT TO SOUND ARROGANT BUT THOSE R THE FACTS
HAPPY NEW YEAR

radar doesnt lie but sometimes the guy who posts stuff in here does!!

Originally posted by butternutz@Dec 31 2003, 08:48 AM
radar doesnt lie but sometimes the guy who posts stuff in here does!!
:D :D :D

Originally posted by powder@Dec 31 2003, 04:26 AM
it never ceases to amaze me how an honest post can be beat up by people who don't ride the winning brand. :crazy: get over it.................maybe tomorrow your brand will win. :D
I agree, its not even like these numbers seem far fetch, If no one believes these numbers are accurate they never tried a clutched rx1.
i can see how someone can put on 10000miles a year, my buddy, Panteraone, pus on about 5000miles a year of dich ridin and powder riding. If he was a trail rider he could double that.

Tiggy is wrong-I've read the article too. Now butternuts is calling the original poster a liar! Why? These numbers are pretty near accurate to all that's been published.

Paul-I agree-love to see the 180 horses transposed from the R-1 to the RX-1!

I cant remember which magazine it was but one of them had a 10,000 mile review on a guy with a RX-1 and I did believe him and his story. That sled has a digital spedo and trip which showed in the magazine and it did in fact show to be over 10,000 miles.

how did this thing turn into we don't believe the miles in year thing?? who cares i believe that the m.p.h are correct so what if he had 100,000 miles thats not what the post is its the m.p.h.

Originally posted by machz69@Dec 31 2003, 07:06 PM
how did this thing turn into we don't believe the miles in year thing?? who cares i believe that the m.p.h are correct so what if he had 100,000 miles thats not what the post is its the m.p.h.
because someone said it couldn't be, and it is possible.

well spikey, i never called the original poster a liar, i'm just sayin that when you read these kind of posts, there's no way of knowing if its true or if its someone blowing it out his ###.

so if his post said that brandx,your brand did 125mph and smoked everything on the lake,then you'd believe it.......................it's one guy's experience.why does he need to lie?

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