well guys i know i said mean things in the past about your beloved rx1 that was the old butternutz this year im turning a new leaf. im in a situation i got a 02 T-cat thats gonna have to retire after this year I dont like to keep em too long they all get problems with age. i dont want a twin im no Blair Morgen and i dont like the buzzy feeling of em. everyones saying to go with a rx1 with a turbo, im a big drag racer and i dont like to lose. anybody got one or heard about how the turbo works. can you get decent performance without turbo. i heard that the rx1 doesnt even take a rev 600sdi, thats what some dude wrote on here is that true?

These guys talking about 600's beating the RX-1 are stoned or they are seeing very very short distance races. I ride with 2 800 REV's and a trail ported MachZ and after I installed Heavy Hitters I could take all of them :D Clutching is a must and I also recommend a K&N filter kit from a company called Eastern Cycle Performance. These filters will give you an 18 HP increase at 5,500-6,500 rpm's and about 9 HP at peak around 10,200 RPM's.

If you want to beat anyting, throw on an MC Express turbo :devil:

Butter did we get you thinking?? From what I understand the stage 2 turbo makes around 180-190 hp on pump and about 220 on race fuel, so if your trail riding this thing it would be kind of a pain to deal with the fuel to make max power. Bender had turbo at the shootout in OldForge with a stage3 kit, he shattered the chaincase in testing a day before so he could'nt run the thing. In testing this thing was doing 125-127mphs in under 2000ft. w00t Terry said the sled was not strapped, had the stage 3, plus a number of other thing done and was putting out somewhere in the range of 350+hp and 200+ pounds of tork. T-cat? Whats that? :devil:

WOW!!!!!! thats more power than my truck :D :D :D

350 hp,,,,,,holy,,,,,,,wow!!!!!!!!!

Bender Racing had A RX-1 and A Viper set up with there stage II turbo,to run on asphault, they were on display at this years NHSA Grass Drags. Here's A link with the details on there turbo. SWRules



http://www.benderracing.com/rx1.htm

so its a $12000 machine PLUS another $6000 for a turbo - just to get something which will compare to my T-cat?? WOW you guys want to lend me some cash? im really up s**t creek here, the old T-cat is going to retire next year who wants to ride an 02 in 05?? nobody makes a fast machine anymore. what are some honest results you guys have had with non-turbo rx1s? can I repeat honest, Ive raced quite a few they dont hold no stick to my Cat.

Originally posted by butternutz@Jan 4 2004, 07:17 PM
so its a $12000 machine PLUS another $6000 for a turbo - just to get something which will compare to my T-cat??
Just to compare :lol: Add a turbo and it will destoy your T-cat :!:

hey hey hold up there. not starting a fight just saying thats a lot of coin just to compare to my T-cat, sure id get beat its a turbo for petes sake!! I want to know what a 'stock' rx1 will really do tell me some real stories no BS.

From what I've read, a properly clutched Warrior, add a K&N filter set-up should do the trick for what you are looking for.

Hey butternutz, from the couple of rides I've taken on a buddies RX-1, I doubt if you'll need a turbo to get that thing moving!! These things fly, I don't care what the competition is saying. They're just jealous because Yamaha did it first!! And they ride & handle nice too. Again, don't listen to the nay-sayers, they've probably never even ridden one.

I know spikegary would back me up on this one.

I've got a turbo that I just got running and all I can say is WOW!!! So far I've only ridden it in the alley , but in that short distance it pulls harder than anything that I ever rode. It's -30 degrees (farenheight) up where I ride so I'm not going to find out what it's really like till it warms up a little, maybe go on Friday, Ken.

Originally posted by butternutz@Jan 4 2004, 08:02 PM
hey hey hold up there. not starting a fight just saying thats a lot of coin just to compare to my T-cat, sure id get beat its a turbo for petes sake!! I want to know what a 'stock' rx1 will really do tell me some real stories no BS.
I have never run a T-cat with my old RX-1 but I use to run them with my 99 machZ with more than a 50% success rate. My buddy still has his 98 MachZ which is ported and it was faster than my 99 but I could beat it with my RX-1. So what does that tell you :)

Butternutz, If I was you I'd say stick with that T-cat ..........On second thought Hossman would sell you his Srx . He claims it's the "T-cat Killer"!!!

for butternutz keep them guessing about the t cat had 98 new 2001 these machines worked great bought a rx1 liked it no 600 will beat them but a good 7 spank them don t need to worry about the speed on long run work fine but you ll break you re back and kidneys if you hit a bump as for racing good three leged dog beat these things out of hole never seen any that could get any traction can t get the suspension set to get them out by the time they get out from spinning you ll be over the finish line now i got to say bought a 2004 zr 900 efi that the boys say won t go tell them to take over there rx1 warriers or any yamaha that ever was built to pei i ll meat and beat there ### verry quickly they play with last years zr 900 with a kit and running strong or a ski 800 ho thought i de like to get a crack at that 2002 tc of you rs as well then you make up you re mind what you think you ll buy next season bin doing this race thing sisce 1996zrt 600 days words from 48 yr old fart lol :D :lol: :blahblah:

vacman do you have a translator i can talk to i dont have a clue what your talking about. Im maybe not the best at typing out stuff using one finger and all but dude use a period so i can tell when your changing subjects. if im getting your drift your saying try out a zr9 cuz it spanks rx1's all day long, right? well, the guys on here dont all agree. how much longer do you think theyll even be selling zr9s, this is prolly the last year for them.

Vacman-always remember: Proofread before you hit 'post reply'. I'm with butter-I think I could figure out what you're saying, but barely.......

:withstupid:

just because it has wings doesn't mean it will fly!!!


the rx-1s are great
for as much bad stuff you here about them i was very impressed



so i bought one

now i have both worlds
zr800

and an rx1


jim


p.s. gone riding

well butternutz,had a hard time figuring out what i was telling you?letting you guys know that you re worriers and rx1 s wouldn t hold a candle to thunder cats or the 900zr efi.had them all know from experence. and by the way 900 will be top out again next year. can you read this message LOUD AND CLEAR

Originally posted by vacman@Jan 9 2004, 06:04 PM
rx1 s wouldn t hold a candle to thunder cats or the 900zr efi.
Keep telling yourself that :D

buy what you like and stop worrying about top speed all the time........... :D

jimme-

Congrats on your purchase-I have a little of each in the garage........best of all worlds!

Ive heard both about the rx1, but in real world experiance, it was a pretty good sled,,,, but trying to compare an rx1 with turbo, clutched, picked, etc..... to a zr900 stock is a joke,,,, compare them both stock or compare them both with 5000$ worth of mods,,,,, I am not fighting for either side, only asking that the two be compared in a fair way

From what I understand the stage 2 turbo makes around 180-190 hp on pump and about 220 on race fuel

Wow that's amazing 180 -190 hp on pump gas(sarcasm). I can buy a 205hp kit for my 670 on pump gas running 11psi. Remember that is 330cc's less with 15-25 more hp. :p

Originally posted by 670x@Jan 10 2004, 03:47 PM

Wow that's amazing 180 -190 hp on pump gas(sarcasm). I can buy a 205hp kit for my 670 on pump gas running 11psi, that's stock but the turbo. Remember that is 330cc's less with 15-25 more hp. :p
You sure can, but did you figure in the new rings every 1,500 miles to keep it fresh :sly:

:withstupid:

Also try and remember we're talking 4-stroke vs 2-stroke. Considering that a 1000cc 4-stroke is putting out the same HP as a 800cc 2-stroke is pretty damned amazing, especially since a 4-stroke typically would require DOUBLE the displacement to do that.

We were out on Buffalo lake, in Minn. yesterday,, and there was at least 2 Rx 1's with tubo's they went around 127, 128, MPH !! Not the greatest ice,,, and about 30* This was in 1000' yikes!!!!

wow 128 in 1000' thats pretty damned fast maybe a turbo is in my future after all. i wont tell my buds i got the turbo though they're all a bunch of rx1 hating yahoos like most of the guys on this site. would be nice to kick their ##### with one. wait what am i saying they ride Cats i think im turning japanese. those numbers sound real tempting. whats a stock one run in 1000'? oh yeah vacman didn't want to pi$$ you off just couldnt understand your post very good. i agree stock for stock the t-cat will kill anything but i was asking about turbos here.

guys can t see a turbo turning that fast in 1000 ft.the biggest problem for rx1s is traction.they cant hook up right because of the suspension.if they put new suspension under one of these machines it will have a chance.owned one last year put 196 studs in it ,tried everything posible to suspension still couldn t get it to hook up .even with stock clutching and gears .down at the local drags sunday they wouldn t take a 660 torbo 4 stroke out of the hole set there and spin.so explain to me how they intend to put 225 hp in it and race anyone :( :sarcasm: :whatever:

Ice picks, vacman, ice picks for the ice drags.

Besides, this year (on the warrior at least) there is the new far-more aggressive track.

And the last time I checked, a stock and stock (2002) Mach Z vs. T-cat the Z was winning, as the cats were detuned (clutch-wise) from the factory.

you would need a lot more than ice picks.they won t waite transfer.thats there problem :D

watch me vacman, I will post when the tuning is done :!:

Originally posted by vacman@Jan 12 2004, 07:39 PM
guys can t see a turbo turning that fast in 1000 ft.the biggest problem for rx1s is traction.they cant hook up right because of the suspension.if they put new suspension under one of these machines it will have a chance.owned one last year put 196 studs in it ,tried everything posible to suspension still couldn t get it to hook up .even with stock clutching and gears .down at the local drags sunday they wouldn t take a 660 torbo 4 stroke out of the hole set there and spin.so explain to me how they intend to put 225 hp in it and race anyone :( :sarcasm: :whatever:
Easy there big fella,,,, these were Marv Jorganson's sleds,, professonally prepped at his shop,,, No i did not actually see there time slips.... but i know when i see something fast go past :cool: when i looked under the hood,, i have not seen such fabrication on a sled that looked this good :ohmy: I think they were just killing time,,, getting a feel for bigger more professionally run ice racing... working on setups.....

Originally posted by 670x@Jan 10 2004, 01:46 PM
I can buy a 205hp kit for my 670 on pump gas running 11psi.
........... that burns down every 180 miles..... and then you need to find an RX to tow you to the Cooke parking lot!

Hey Butternutz, if ya dont want to sped quite as much coin go for a 925 or 1010 kitted cat. My 925 beat the snot out of a clutched and worked RX-1 two weekends ago. We aint talking a few feet either, I beat him bad. weather it traction or no power I cant tell you, but my 925 beat him BAAAAD. Go for the ZR 900 efi punk it out stud it, and get all the little thing you need, the intake the exhaust. keep it looking stock and then suprise em bad with you crack the trottle. Having a sleeper is the way to go.

Originally posted by Suicide Machine@Jan 15 2004, 12:22 AM
Having a sleeper is the way to go.
Agreed, but do it by getting a rear mount Turbo for the RX-1/Warrior :hallo1: