I have had the updates but it still is fouling plugs when I first start it when it is
cold. Anyone out there herd of this? Please help.

Isn't this something. My dealer told me that he along with three other, major, dealers in the Toronto area said that the update does sh*t all. This isn't making any sense. All of these engines were made at the same time. Why is there so many differences out there. Please add some details for your situation. Is your machine in break-in mode still? Are you running premixed gas or straight gas.

Thanks

I am getting my machine updated tonight.

marcel

Put 60 mi on mine Thur& Fri mostly on the lake 8-10 inches and 2 " of snow.I fouled 1 plug on trailer when tilted and I put it in rev when it was cold.Mag side.After that it ran fine for 60 mi.

the update made a difference on my sled and my brothers. before if I tried to drive my sled out of the garage wright after start up it would hesitate. now it drives out no problem. I have put on 1250 miles with no broblems(brother has 2000 miles on). we are both runing 87 octane. I am using XP-S 2, he is using AMS OIL regular. I went 105 miles and used 26.5 liters and my brother was less. seems good to me. sled is great.

The update wont start to take effect until the break in chip has burnt out. Dealers probably cant understand that.

The 600sdi runs awsome after the chip burns out even before the update with no plug fouling. Its the break in program thats causing all the problems.

I have 160 miles on it and have went through 10 or 12 plugs! No pre-mix in it and
running the XPS oil. When will the break in chip go out?

Originally posted by greg szlachta@Jan 5 2004, 11:58 AM
I have 160 miles on it and have went through 10 or 12 plugs! No pre-mix in it and
running the XPS oil. When will the break in chip go out?
I have heard 8-10 hours. How many do you think you have?

are you warming these sdi's before you try to go with them? ive got a f7 and when its good and cold you need to give it 5 min, before tryng to go or itll stumble, longer when its like -20faren. Ive watched plenty of guys start a sled warm it just a little and go out and stab the throttle when this is done you dump all the rich oil/fuel on the plugs that are not cleaned off good and ppss there goes the plug, be sure to warm it well then bring it up gradually low to mid throttle so its got a chance to clear its throat, sounds like there screamers so i think youll be able to catch up! SWRules

Martin, not everybody is having problems with their SDI's. You are one of the lucky ones that is not. There is obviously an issue right now though with many machines. It's undeniable. Like the article says, Ski-Doo has done right by looking after it quickly, (although it shouldn't have happened in the first place). Anyway, looks like these motors are here to stay. I must say, I was embarrassed a few times when I was unloading my machine it fouled plugs in the darn parking lot. Here are these guys standing around wanting to see your brand new X Renegade SDI and the piece of wood is back firing and running like a 30 year old lawn mower. Hopefully Ski-Doo learns from this whole blunder with the SDI's. Everything from break-in procedure, start up, octane, oil type, spark plug type and gap, chip burn-in time, manual misprints and so on has been a source of confusion. I spoke with one dude there and told them to stop relying on dealers and put the information on their website for us to see. This will put an end to all of the misinformation out there. Which in my opinion is half the problem! I am getting my machine flashed tonight. I look forward to seeing how it performs in the very near future.




marcel

after break in mine would still hesitate at low rpm. I did the update on 8 sleds. it made a difference on the brand new sleds too.

Machzzzz1 is right!! - once you get that chip burned out, there is a huge difference in how the sled runs. I have 10 hours on now and no plug fouling anymore as well as much better throttle responce down low. The only thing it is still doing is stalling at warm start-up sometimes. It is in for the update right now, so that should cure it. :thumbsup:

I have 10.5 hours on my GSX 600 SDI and still with the first set of plugs. It is in for the update tonight. I never had the plug fouling problem, just a sputter and minor back fire after running hard. Hope it does not act up now!!!

Golfleft, are they checking your solenoid heater wiring? brought mine in for the update tonight, that took 5 mins but ended up leaving it there for them to check the wiring. I actually had an appointment too. :( ah well. I will have it back soon.

mk

I will have them check the wiring as well. I had dropped off the machine just before closing so they could place it inside and work on a warm and dry machine in the morning. Thanks for the info.

This is just plain BullSh*t! Doo should have these sleds dialed in from the factory. How does it feel to be a guinea pig :huh:

I was a guinea pig last year with an all new sled design and engine that rode pretty harsh at times but ran better than a swiss watch :inlove:

golfleft don't worry about it they'll check it out. They did it when they reprogrammed my sled and the demo .

get rid of the br9ecs`s . put in br9eya`s gap to .031 and no more fouling. also check your oil pump adjustment, rich from the factory.

I changed from br9ecs to br9ev in my 03 rev 600 with great results. They make a platinum version of that plug also.

i was fouling at start up on my 04 carbed but at about 3 or 400 miles it quit doing it and now has no problems

My sled is still at the dealer up in Gaylord. When I droped it off they checked my
oil pump and it was really rich so they fixed that. I am going to call them today
to see if they found anything out. I will post if I hear anything. No matter what I
am picking it up Fri night so I can ride this weekend. They have been real good up
there and seem to know what they are doing.

Greg--I am very familar with Extreme Powersports, and they should be able to figure out the problem quite easily but if they don't, I purchased an 04 600 HO SDI from Lakes and Trails in Kalkaska and I have found them to be excellent with service. You may want to give them a try if you still have trouble with the machine after Extreme looks at it.

BTW my machine would idle rough, stall, shoot flames out the exhaust and was generally hard starting until I had the update. That fixed all. Starts on first pull (if you charge the fuel pump and injectors first by pushing the grey button) whether cold or hot. Idles smoothly all day.

Good luck.

Originally posted by cdgsledneck@Jan 6 2004, 10:49 PM
I changed from br9ecs to br9ev in my 03 rev 600 with great results. They make a platinum version of that plug also.
I thought the "V" meant it was a platinum plug?

I talked to the dealer this afternoon and they said it should be fixed. They changed the plugs and gaped them to 31 like they should be. They talked to ski-doo
and Ski-Doo said to put some more hrs on it and it should be fine. I only have 6.44
hrs on it and most of them have been with my 18 month old son ridding with me so
to say I have been ridding it slow is a understatement. Thanks for the info Superfly
but I stoped in at Lakes and Trails last week before I took it to Extreme and they
said if I had the update done then they had no idea. Lakes and Trails were nice though and seemed knowledgable I thought. I will never buy a sled from down
state again, the dealer I bought it from knew nothing about the stinking updates!
Extreme Power Sports has earned my business and the next sled or watercraft I
buy will be from them I would have to say.

the V stands for fine wire gold palladium center electrode. the vx is a high performance platinum

Greg--No problem. I can see how this was a problem if you were riding around with your 18month old.

Andy--I had the update done after more than 11 hrs on sled and 345 miles so the break-in period, what ever the time is, was over and you are still right. Put both hands on recoil or put one in pocket and don't touch the throttle when trying to start.

I still have the plugs in the motor that came with it when I bought it so I can only assume my problems may not have been as bad as others. Then again, I did not putt putt around on it either. Don't get me wrong, I did not hammer on it but I did not load it at slow speeds for extended periods of time either.

Gotta love the SDI. :D