I finally dropped by the dealer today and went for a test ride on the trails with the Turbo Touring. All I can say is WOW. What a quiet, vibration free, smooth as silk, smoke free and fantastic ride. Do yourself a favor and try any model with this powerplant, awesome. I was just cruising lightly at first when I looked at the speedo, 60mph, dam, it felt like I was going 40. Tracks straight as an arrow and virtually no lifting of the skis in hard cornering. (tracks better than mine and I have sims flexi skis) A real slow take off is very easy and well controlled, clutch is great. Compared to my 600 ZRT triple touring it is similar but the powerplant is so much more linear as opposed to wham, hang on. I did not get a chance to open her up but I would say it does an easy 95mph. Man are the other touring manufacturers gonna have a hard time compeating with this. I was seriously concerned about the longevity of the turbo/engine but when I sat down and started to think about cars, where the turbo's go 125,000 miles plus, I figure it should easily do 25,000+ miles in a sled and by that time they should have released the 2016 electric model with 175 hp. I will have mine next week. :D :inlove: :inlove: Guess I'll have to dump my 2 stroke oil and by some oil filters instead. :dazed:

Yet another satisfied person of the Turbo. My stepdad has the Turbo Touring and he loves it. By far the MOST comfortable sled I have ever driven and very surpising pull the 4-stroke puts out, with very little turbo lag. He now has close to 700 miles on it and is getting about 20mph. Out on the river he has pulled over 90mph (on speedo) and thats not a WOT run. He loves how quiet it is and the silky smooth ride, he knows very well whenever I am around him LOL. No matter where we stop somebody is normally over looking the sled over. I dont care much for the 2-up style but would love to have the ST for the long trail rides, they are defintly a impressive sled and top runner.

I'm waiting for the "Vibrant Green" model to come out in a 660 Tubro trail model. I'm tired of smelling like smoke (but at the same time its pleasing?!)

With 110 hp on the turbo model you're in 600cc two-stroke power range, with better mileage, no ringing of the ears and no smoke!

Please, please build a green one Arctic Cat.

Originally posted by LakeEffectSledhead@Feb 19 2004, 09:47 PM
With 110 hp on the turbo model you're in 600cc two-stroke power range, with better mileage, no ringing of the ears and no smoke!
They are very hard competition in the 600 class. My dealer is 'working' on the 05 ST and he thinks it will give the F6 a good run. I have no doubts that they will take the older 600's.

Oh, one more thing. When you stop, you don't even want to turn it off because it sounds like it is off already. Just sits there with a soft purr to it and runs silky smooth at 1400rpm. :inlove:

If they could just drive 50+ pounds off the ST, I think a lot more people would consider them. I am not terribly bothered by the smell of oil, it's the noise of a 2-stroke motor that gets tiring after a day's ride.

snowride=i've been watching too.this may be the one that replaces my 01 pantera(which i love the most).thanks for the post-i was wondering how they ran.

How's this for a compliment. I was sitting in a Polaris dealership today mulling over the upcoming year and the owner says to me "Know what Polaris needs? Something just like the T660. We had one in our shop and was overly impressed with the layout of all components and the serviceability"
Wow.

Originally posted by boss hoss@Feb 19 2004, 10:14 PM
snowride=i've been watching too.this may be the one that replaces my 01 pantera(which i love the most).thanks for the post-i was wondering how they ran.
Do a little search on the T660. There hasn't been many topics about it but the few that have been are mostly good :thumbsup: . I fully recomend the Turbo and you wont be dissapointed.
Given time the 4-stroke will become lighter and more powerful, they are still relitivily new to the snowmobile industry. Thats my only beef about them is that they ae HEAVY, even more the my 800 triple.

Yeah, hopefully in a couple more years, we&#39;ll be able to have a <500 pound "sport" 4 stroke with the performance of a 600 2 stroke.

snowride=i&#39;ve been watching too.this may be the one that replaces my 01 pantera(which i love the most).thanks for the post-i was wondering how they ran.


I had a 99 pantera 580efi and the 00 triple touring. Both sleds are basically identical to your Pantera. I can tell you this. If you go try one, better bring the check book. No way are you gonna walk away without one.

I went for it now because the only change on the 05&#39;s are decals and red colored springs and wheels. Pricing this time of year is much better and Arctic Cat is offering a 800 incentive to the dealers to not get stuck with last years models on the showroom floor. List is $12,300CDN and I was able to get one for 10,700 with a 2 year bumper to bumper warranty. Next years models will be full list @ 12,700 until this time next year in 05. Plus the value of my existing sled would also be lower next winter.

my dad also has a t660 turbo touring. he loves it. handles great, awsome power. it diffenetly will give a f6 a hard run in the single chassis. just look at amsnow shootout. just .2 slower in 1000 feet. thats not bad for something that heavy. the other manufactor&#39;s diffenetly have some catching up to do when it comes to touring sleds right now.....AC diffenetly has a winner here. anybody that i havetalked to on the trials that has ether drove one or owns a t660 turbo loves them.

Ok guys, lets stop with the "my dad has got one", you&#39;re makin me feel old. :p On the other hand wisdom does come with age. :D

Originally posted by OntRider@Feb 20 2004, 02:09 AM
If they could just drive 50+ pounds off the ST, I think a lot more people would consider them.
That&#39;s the kicker. THey&#39;re just too heavy, though I&#39;ll admit that I think they would be a blast on the groomed trail. THe dealer here has a single-seater one in Black, and it&#39;s beautiful. I just could never justify laying out that kind of money for something with such a limited use.
The turbo 4 stroke will never be a ditch banger, but if they could get it down to 500lbs with a 136" track on it, I&#39;d be thinking hard about it.

I am a hard core trail only rider so it really fits the bill to a tee. The added weight is actually a blessing in the 2 up touring model but I can only imagine the concerns for you powder freaks and ditch bangers. As mentioned earlier, the technology is still in it&#39;s infancy and the future is sure to give you guys a light weight, big HP, 4-stroke sled.

You know, the smoke never really bothered me when riding because it was so minimal. Where it is a pain is on startup and idle. (the dealer even started one up on the showroom floor.)This is but one area where the 4 banger shines. You can start her up in the garage or in the enclosed trailer without gagging, real sweet. Of coarse the CO emmisions are still there so precations need to be taken regardless.

Originally posted by Snowride@Feb 20 2004, 07:00 AM
Ok guys, lets stop with the "my dad has got one", you&#39;re makin me feel old.* :p On the other hand wisdom does come with age.* :D
Thats why we call them the "old mans sled" :lol: now get the ST and you will be young again :cool: . My stepdad paid $11,500 for his when he spring ordered it so you got a good deal. No a 4-stroke never will be a ditch banger or hill climber but they can&#39;t be beat for trails, great fuel mileage, no oil and the engine should last many miles before a rebuild.

one reason why its the old man&#39;s sled is because only the old men can afford them...i did good to fork out 9000 for my f6.

I have ridden the T660, and the ride is definitly awsome. And the speed is fine. But I did not get that (for lack of better wording) GRIN FACTOR).
I have also ridden the RX1, and still, nice but didnt make giggle to myself on acceleration.
The T660 touring has by far the smoothest ride on moguls I have ever experienced.

Just finished reading this thread yesterday and went out and accidently put my sled into a ditch on my property. While I was struggling to dig it out I thought to myself what if this was a T660? Another 50lbs and I might have to call a tow truck!
Anyone got an actual weight for this sled?, compared to an average 600cc two stroker?

The claimed dry weight of the T660 Turbo (solo) is 575lbs where as a Firecat 600 is claimed to be 460lbs dry. The Turbo Tourning is 640lbs dry and a pantera&#39;s dry weight is 578lbs. Just for comparision the ZRT 600 weighs 517lbs and the ZRT 800 comes in at 561lbs. I hope my stepdad NEVER gets his Turbo stuck cause I get tired just thinking of lifting it :lol: . Though I guess its better the the Bearcat Wide-track 4-stroke tipping the scales at a mere 717lbs :ohmy: .

Guess what I got in my garage. :D :D :D Trails are already beautiful and we&#39;re going to get another foot tonight and tomorrow. :D :D :D

Congrats on the new sled, you&#39;ll love it. What color did you get? The black was a spring order option only but a few dealers ordered extra. Just a little headsup you WILL hear much more sounds when riding and at first if you have any ice up in the tunnel it will sound like the sled is going to fall apart.

I personally hate the Platinum but that&#39;s me. Black is my color and that&#39;s what I got. :D I forgot to mention earlier that the remote start will be standard on the 05&#39;s. Not a big deal as my buddy works at a place where they install them and for $100, I&#39;ll be all set. :D

I agree that the black looks alot better then the platnuim. My dealer told us this week that the 05 Turbo&#39;s would have the remote start because my stepdad thought the 04&#39;s had them and was dissapointed when he found out he still had to turn the key :crazy: . I told him I would start his if he wanted to pull the 800 over, I dont know why he didn&#39;t go after that one.
Oh yeah and if you want to check my stepdads sled out it is in the SW garage.

I asked my dealer about it as it does say in the brochure it is standard on the 04&#39;s. Unfortunately it was a misprint.

Congrats, can wait to hear how you like it. I am assuming it comes with reverse?

I just got my Cat T660 back from the dealer because he had to make a opening in the oil breather hose , because when it gets to cold the air intake frost up. So now with slit in the hose it will get the air it needs I HOPE . If it don&#39;t it smoke&#39;s like mad and suck&#39;s the crank oil so if anyone buys a t660 ask your dealer .

Curious, was this a bulletin that the dealer performed or just their own repair?
Sounds like it could be a problem. Is this the only complaint about the sled that you have?

Originally posted by Snowride@Feb 20 2004, 11:55 PM
I asked my dealer about it as it does say in the brochure it is standard on the 04&#39;s. Unfortunately it was a misprint.
What brochure was that?? My stepdad swore that he had seen it as standard on the 04&#39;s but couldn&#39;t find where when the sled came in. Our dealer said that if he could find it he would talk to cat about seeing about putting it on.
basee my stepdad has ran in about -30 and not a problem and he hasn&#39;t got any notice about the oil line recall, the only problem he had was with the exhaust melting through the bellypan and the recall on the fuel gauge.

brochure misprints are a problem from time to time,,,,the 03 firecats did not have the spark plug holder that the book said it had,,,,,

too bad that I was the fool who sat in the garge one day for over an hour trying to find it,,,,I really didnt want to call the dealer to ask and look like a fool,,,,,,

What brochure was that??

It&#39;s in the general color brochure which covers the whole lineup of the 04&#39;s. In the spec section, of all machines in the back, under standard equipment it says "remote starter"

Got in about 75 miles in today with my nine year old on the back. Unbelievable. I stopped at a road crossing stop sign and with a grin on my face, turned around to her and said "I did&#39;nt know you sang to yourself when we ride" Man is this thing quiet it and goes like stink but in a very controlable manner. Snowmobiling has been reinvented. Please give this machine a try, you really do not know what you are missing.

never thought about that,,,,, Scott,,,, if I would get that 4 stoke, I couldnt sing anymore when I have my son with me!!!!

I just got my Cat T660 back from the dealer because he had to make a opening in the oil breather hose , because when it gets to cold the air intake frost up. So now with slit in the hose it will get the air it needs I HOPE . If it don&#39;t it smoke&#39;s like mad and suck&#39;s the crank oil so if anyone buys a t660 ask your dealer .

This is a common problem on 4-strokes operated in extreme cold. During the infamous ice storm my Honda generator even froze up the PCV tube. If the dealer did not make this incision, it should be made close to the valve cover where it is the warmest and will never freeze. Here is an excerpt from the ATV forums.


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I have posted this in the FAQ section and also took the liberty of changing the recall tiltle to "Recalls/TSB&#39;s". A TSB is a "Technical Service Bulletin" which is usually not distributed for the public but it would be nice to have a place for these when one is performed to your quad but I do need your input to find out about them so please submit any TSB which is performed to your machine.

This one is rather important as a fire or engine oil starvation could occur if you are affected by this.

March 05 2003

Modified

Jan 15 2004



Polaris along with many other brands have a crankcase ventilation hose, freeze up problem.



The tube, which originates from the valve cover and enters the air box, can get blocked with ice that is formed by condensation. When this happens, there is no way of relieving crankcase pressure and the weakest part of your engine will fail (valve cover, dipstick, oil pan, etc.)



The correct procedure (recommended by Polaris) is to cut a small slit in this tube, as close as possible to the valve cover (lots of heat and will never freeze in this area) This serves as an escape route, for any pressure should the hose freeze up. Otherwise if you blow the valve cover and do not notice it guess what happens? (I know of several cases in my area that led to motor failure due to oil starvation). This only happens in extreme cold -20c and below and will happen to quads stored outdoors that do not get to thaw out, they simply build more and more ice until it&#39;s finally blocked.



Another thing to check is that the hose is routed so it does not have any low spots. ( a U shape somewhere along it&#39;s path) If it does, the condensation/water will not be allowed to flow freely into the air box where it is supposed to go and when it dips below freezing, you get an ice cube in the system.



Jan 15 2004



Edit: Polaris has now released a TSB (Technical service bulletin) regarding this matter. The onus was put in the dealers hands to contact the customer in areas only where cold temps are seen on a regular basis. In general. Canada and the Northern States. I would not rely on your dealer contacting you as we all know how lazy some can be! If you own a 02, 03 or early 04, the TSB applies to you. If you have a 04 and are not sure, just look at the PCV hose which goes from the front of the airbox (left side) to the engine valve cover. If the hose is a plain black rubber hose and has a small in-line filter, you need to have it done. If the hose is a black rubber one but has a foil type insulation sleeve around it and no filter, then the mod is already done from the factory. You can see this hose by simply removing the seat.

The TSB is #S-03-05and the part # is 2202744

looking for an oil filter for the 4 strokes and compliments to the gorilla that put the filter on my two. i refuse to buy the part to take them off - pound of flesh i suppose, off my knuckles