Going to sell the 'ol XLT for a Ski-Doo looking to buy a 1996-1997 Formula SS or Formula III....any problems with these sleds you guys could give me a heads up on...?...my buddy had a '96 Formula SS and it was a nice riding sled and had a good deal of power...thanks for the help!

IndyOneSki * * *NE Ohio http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

I would go for an mxz instead of the SS....just personal preferance, donno how much difference there is. The FIII, like every triple from every manufacturer, you have to watch crank bearings, but other than than that it is a very powerful sled. Whatever you get you will be happy with. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Ake sure you get a new enough one that it has the SC-10 rear suspension instead of the C-7. It might be a little more money but your back will thank you! Ihad a 95 FZ 583 and loved it eccept for the rea suspension which I hated. Well thats my 2 cents.
* * * * * Ryan

Welcome to the club IndyOneSki.Permafrost had the F3 and it was a great sled.I agree with Ryan go for the SC-10. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

When do you get your yellow underwear? http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Maybe LadyK can knit you a pair http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif I'll throw in & say pass on the C7. A much better ride & one less shock to deal with.

Ya Gramma. My mom does the knitting and sewing and if your clothes are wrinkled throw them in the dryer http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Indy I think you will find that you can beat the daylights outta your Doo and it will take pretty much whatever you can dish out.I cant believe that we sustained so little damage this year as we rode our machines really hard this year jumping and stunting and quite a bit off trail riding on hydro cuts. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

indyoneski,
*welcome, it's good to see a few new pups add to old yellar because we have lost a few to the rx-1.

ladyk,
*how do you get away without ironing ? *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif *in my house i won't admit who does it in the morning for the family. *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

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I think some of the earlier form ss may have had a mechanical brake as well which you will want to stay away from but i may be wrong.LMAO at Paul Mr. Domesticated Yarek http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Welcome to the world of Doo. I agree with Ryan on the SC-10. I just happen to have a 98 Mach1 that might be up for grabs. The wife just Sno-Checked a REV 600HO X for herself. 98 and up I think would be a better choice for you.

the 95 Formula ss does have mechanical brakes the 96 has the good ones. *The 670 or 600 triple are very good engines. *the 670 is bullet proof, both are fast. and get the SC-10 like every one eles said.

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*welcome, it&#39;s good to see a few new pups add to old yellar because we have lost a few to the rx-1.

ladyk,
*how do you get away without ironing ? *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif *in my house i won&#39;t admit who does it in the morning for the family. *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/b][/quote]
Throw the clothes in the dyrer. Also no one works in an office or anything so a few wrinkles wont matter. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The mechanical brake wasn&#39;t they only thing that was on the SS. I can&#39;t remember the other content changes off the top of my head.

IndyOneSki, why don&#39;t you stick a shovel in your wallet and dig a little deeper.Sc-10 is good,but Sc-10II is way better.That would put you at a 2000 model year.I had a 2000 MXZ 500 and just plain loved it.I did go up 200ccs with my new one, but the 500 was beyond my expectations.Wait &#39;til fall,probably a few trades to pick from a your (new *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ) dealer.

Welcome to team yellow http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Changes in 95 were mech brake, steel skis, cheaper gas bag shocks and single pipe as opposed to the Mach&#39;s twin&#39;s, HPG&#39;s all around, Hyd Disk, and Composite skis, otherwise identical...I&#39;d try find a 97 or up FZ if that&#39;s your kinda thing, one thing no one else mentioned *is that handling will be quite a bit better with the S -Body compared to the F in the F-III.

Thanks everyone for the great responses...really looking forward to getting with team doo...as soon as i sell my chevelle first...always somthing ya know?...

Thanks again,

* IndyOneSki.....i might have to change that..?.. *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif

indyoneski: should start with something small, just to get use to the power of skidoo http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

LMAO SKI DOOD

IndyOneSki,yes you will need a name change.
mxzOneSki has a better ring to it anyway.

I changed over to doo last winter after being a polaris guy all my life and im very impressed with doo i got an mxz 700 and its great, although i lost my engine at 3200 kms. but they were good enough to give me a new one and put it in for me so i was impressed with the service as well. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif

I&#39;ve really heard alot of positive things about Ski-Doo replacing things. Guys are posting on here all the time on things ski-doo warrantied or replaced even when out of warrenty. Says alot about the manufacturer.
Caleb

2 things to make sure you get are the sc-10 and *hydraulic brakes and you will be set. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif

Also look for the unequal control arm set up on the S chassis http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif my &#39;98 MXZ 500 didn&#39;t have it and that would have made the world of difference. Some of the S chassis sleds I think got it in &#39;99. I think the MXZx 440 had it in &#39;98, but you don&#39;t want one of those, premix only.

I went from a &#39;95 MXZ 440 to a &#39;98 MXZ 500. Other than the different belly pan & hood, the front end was identical. Even identical inside ski lift http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

The unequal control arms on the ZX has all but eliminated the lift on corners.

Indyoneski, *Welcome to yellow and black.....I&#39;m not in the sled broker business, but a guy in our group, upgraded to an 01 800 this spring, and his 1996 FIII is for sale..... Its in super shape, and like the others *I don&#39;t reccomend the C7 suspension, this one has a bovin upgrade in it, and rides like *an SC10. I&#39;ve ridden this sled many times and it runs great, it also had a new track at the start of this year, and due to no snow not many miles were put on it. *Not sure what he is asking, shoot me an E mail some time if you need additional info, I&#39;m sure there will be some other FIII&#39;s on here also, it was a popular sled....
thanks DooZ

Hey I switched from a XLT to a MXZ 800 this year. Not sure if *i buy another Doo not 100% happy. But for some adivce i would&#39;nt buy a tripple . Ie: tripple trouple! But if planning on doing any mods *pick up a polaris just better to work on. No wires and less worries of all those electrical problems and besides if you want it to run good your still going to have to do jetting changes.

kendoll:

no wires on a polaris?
Are you on drugs.
i guess the head and tail lights are battery operated *LMAOOO
And triples triple the trouble?
if you say so. by the way your mxz only has 2 cylinders so how would you know if the triples had troubles?
My Mach is just fine and my friends zrt800 work good too.

Triples are not troubled! My 96 xcr600sp has over 6k miles on it. Gas and oil, the only thing I have put into it. This motor is supposed to be a shrapnel basket case. This motor feels as strong as new. You know what , Kendall. I have two Doo twins which I love also. But when all my friends come over to ride, most want to end up on the triple because of its smooth power. Triples are great! Klotz oil and warm them up well! Yes, the Polaris is easy to work on, but the Doos are not?!

Don&#39;t mess around, *Buy a machZ. *This time of year you can get one for a song. *Do get a 99 or newer.

Kendell please: *

What are you talking about? No wires? *Triples are problems?

Rotax engines are just as easy if not easier then polaris. *Then you have the polaris fuji engines which are not the greatest and are not easy to work on and all the parts are from japan.

And whats wrong with wires. *Polaris has them, skidoo has them, yamaha has them. *Is this the new polaris comeback against superior technology like MPEM and DPM. *

I also can almost promise you that if you got a MXZ800 the last thing you would think about is polaris.

And putting down triples. *Thats a polaris thing. *The 1999 and up rotax triples have proven there reliability and power over and over again. *

Skidoo has the best customer service Period. *They do what it takes to make you happy. *Im not talking about the dealers. *Im talking about bombardier and there customer service.

Any one that is thinking of switching to do is just plain smart..

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from what all my freinds went through with f111 motor problems i would stay away .they all lost their motors around 3000 to 3500 miles.i had a 96fz583 and the only thing i did&#39;nt like was that it felt tippy no matter what i did.i now have a xcr800 and love it.no problems what so ever.i geuss i would go with a ss over a triple.

If it says rotax on the side of it you can BET THE FARM ON IT.

Rotax triples = First place. *Just get 99 or newer older ones had probs.



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I&#39;d sure like to know what the f111 guys were doing to blow them up, because A friend of mine (who introduced me to Bombardier) has an f111 600 ( not sure of the year) and he swears by it. i have known him for about 5 years and it has not had any major problems yet.

44xcr800: The sled you&#39;re talking about was an S chassis. Maybe you should try a ZX chassis sled some day.

A friend who was a diehard Polaris rider was fed up with the engine problems his XC 600SP? (white w/ plastic skis from factory, around &#39;98 model) He bought a &#39;00 MXZ 600 & loves it. Had stator problems last year though. Hasn&#39;t dampened his enjoyment of the sled.

From what I heard about the F111 & the other guys can correct me if I&#39;m wrong. There was an oil passageway in the case that wasn&#39;t drilled causing bearing(s) to lack sufficient oil.

That was one of the problems that bombardier fixed. *But they also used a special new type of grease in the crankshaft bearings so its not totally reliant on the oil. *

the new 99 and above triples are real reliable and good. *I know at lease 6 people with triple doos and even though i dont ride with all of them i never heard of any crank shaft probs.

I think that situation is over.

you guys are right on the passage ways not being big enough. but that kind of promblem is out there if some one did not have it fixed.i beleive that the sled he was looking for fell into the years that they had the problems.couple of people i know do have the fIII 700 and have hade no major problems.