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RAD RACER 38X
03-15-2004, 10:29 PM
Got a problem with my clutching. my clutches shift out and the sled runs 8-8100 then it drops down to 7500 even 7200 at one point. its a 600 with 62grm weights and a 185-330 spring. with a team asecondary. red/blue 66/44helix.

it did it at the begining of the year then it didnt now its doing it again.

any ideas???

polaris indy 500
03-15-2004, 10:32 PM
check your hoses to your air box. that is one thing that will cause that. any hoses from your carbs or air box that has a hole or anything in it will cause that. it your cluch closing all the way? i am thinking the hoses from your air box or carbs.

RAD RACER 38X
03-15-2004, 11:11 PM
ya the clutchs seem to be shifting right out Ive been marking them

Gasoline Man
03-16-2004, 02:43 PM
Hows your belt? Some of those 1080 belts are crap! You'll find some threads on these belts on this forum. Try a new belt or find an equivalent (hopefully from OEM) Team seems to be having some of their own growing pains as well. There was a recall earlier this year on some of the secondary springs. Make sure your running with the new updated springs that don't sag. Some guys who baught the "Switch backs" got clutches with bad bushings. If your on the Pro X it should be OK but, doesn't hurt to check the condition of the inner bushing. I don't hear this so much on OEM Polaris models with the metal windage plates, but alot of other brands (Doo & AC) running aftermarket Team clutches with the plastic windage plates were over heating and blowing belts. Removing the plastic windage plates seem to do the trick. Keeps the belt cooler.

If your clutches are running fine and the above mentioned is not the problem, you may want to change the finish angle of your helix to a 42 or 40 to keep your RPMs up. Your motor should be able to pull the 62 weights but, try the AC 60 weights just for $hits and giggles. I run the 60g Arctic Cat weights on my Pro X. I like the more aggressive profile and more meat on the tips for top end. So..... go through one item at a time until you have eliminated the problem.

Good luck ;o)

tifa_5_2000
03-16-2004, 06:25 PM
my temp sensor was doing that to me. please, for your own good, dont do anything polaris indy 500 says!

The Hossman
03-16-2004, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by tifa_5_2000@Mar 16 2004, 06:25 PM
my temp sensor was doing that to me. please, for your own good, dont do anything polaris indy 500 says!
:withstupid:

Yep, definitely the hoses from the air box... or the carbs. Could be the carbs.

Actually, have you adjusted the handlebars lately??? Yep, probably the handlebars.... Maybe you should have it 'planed'.... :D

Sorry, I'm of no help.... just bored due to lack of snow.

Show em yer Nuts
03-17-2004, 08:36 AM
Had the same thing happen when I ran a couple of bad brand new 1080 belts. Got a 3rd new belt and compared it to the old ones. They were trashed. Ate them up in (2) 200 mile days. 3rd New belt fixed it. Check the other posting on these belts. Sounds like Polaris had a bad run(s) of 1080 belts. Newer ones from the factory don't seem to be a problem.

polaris indy 500
03-17-2004, 08:15 PM
see you guys i tell the tructh most of the time my 500 will only go 104 mph found it out yesterday, and look at hossmans post says the same thing!!! How is my grammer getting rmn????

Polaris Indy 500: You might be up to a middle school level now. Misspelling "grammar" isnt really helping you either here buddy. It should look more like this:

"See you guys? I tell the truth most of the time. My 500 will only go 104 mph now. I found this problem and fxed it yesterday. And look at Hossman's post, he says the same thing! How is my grammar getting RNM?"

madsledhead
03-17-2004, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by polaris indy 500@Mar 17 2004, 08:15 PM
see you guys i tell the tructh most of the time -----------, and look at hossmans post says the same thing!!!
DUDE - this is the first time EVER tha I actually FELL off my chair while laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It hurts my sides!!!!!!!!!!


DUDE - little indy - Hossman didn't agree with you

He's burning you BIG TIME. :lol: :lol: :lol:

You got BURNED big time. GOOD ONE HOSSMAN!!!!!!!

Next time read the entire post before replyings :lol: :lol: :lol:


THAT IS SOOOO FUNNY - plain the handle bars



sorry mods - you can fine me a few bucks for the irrelevant post

I'm still dying from the sillyness

The Hossman
03-17-2004, 10:52 PM
Thank you, thank you very much.... :lol:

polaris indy 500
03-18-2004, 08:16 PM
the hoses to the air box could do it because it happened to me!! it was goin 90 on the speedo about 3/4 throttle and then dropped to 40 at 1600 rpm so there u "go nice helpful person"

Edited due to profanity. :)

RAD RACER 38X
03-18-2004, 10:42 PM
thanx guys for the help, I turned my bars lower and now Im running 9500! lol

no, actually I was tunning it tonight be fore I read the post and yep it was my belt, but not a bad 1080, a garbo 1087. I was running a 1087 belt thhat I had since the summer, it is a close tolerant belt that is "SUPOST" to be for fine tunning! weather or not it was in fact cause it was half worn out or because of the demensions that is beyond me. So anyways I put a brand new 1080 on and it is working awesome again!!!! mind you I could get more pull out of the other but other than that it was junk. I know one thing for sure, I dont think Ill be running any speciallty belts again.

thanx for the helo though guys.

Show em yer Nuts
03-19-2004, 08:40 AM
Glad to hear it helped Rad Racer.

The clutch system is torque sensing so once the belts wear, the clutches won't shift as efficiently or to the proper ratio and hold the RPM's. I've found that with a good 1080 that performance really starts to drop off fast after 800-1000 miles. I run an aggressive setup though so more miles would not be uncommon for less aggressive setups.

Rock On!!!

Anybody got any ideas to help keep the belt cooler with the more aggressive setups? i.e. (Can you remove the dust shield on the back of secondary?)

Thanks.

Gasoline Man
03-19-2004, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Show em yer Nuts@Mar 19 2004, 08:40 AM

Anybody got any ideas to help keep the belt cooler with the more aggressive setups? i.e. (Can you remove the dust shield on the back of secondary?)

Thanks.
I've never heard the windage plate being called a "dust shields" before. Is that what your referring to? The circular plate that has 4 fasteners?

Any how... I read some where some models can gain as much as 4 hp at top end by installing a windage plate to reduce drag. I don't know how accurate that statement is or what models they were referring to. If true, I could imagine that you would loose that 4 hp on top end of you removed the plates. The advantage would be that you may have better belt cooling. Heck, you can also buy a clutch fan cooling system that mounts to your cover to keep the clutches cool. Install vents with SLP filters or buy an enclosed clutch cover to keep the engine heat away from the clutches. Plate your pipes with ceramics. Man, the list goes on. The best thing to do is find a clutching set up that is efficient in the first place so you do not have to spend all that money to keep an inefficient system cool.

My two cents.