just wondering if anybody has gotten the chance to ride that way cool sled/bike?
do you think more companies will build other models?
how much do you think Bombarier had to do with this?
glad to here from ya http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
go to
http://www.adboivin.com/frames.htm
if you haven't seen it yet !
a really cool web site!

sportx,
*i can't think of anyone that wants one of those so the sno hawk has a long row to hoe. *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif

some people like to try new things http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
but your right paul it's probably not everybodys kid of toy!

they are aimed towards the sport rider, not some trail cruiser. * *id personally like to get a hold of one for a couple of days, would be a blast to ride, i think. * * might be slightly underpowered though.

It's not really a sled or a dirt bike .... sure I'd like to try one ... but I don't think I'd buy one , I think it has plunty of power for what it is .

well the Vig boy's ran them this season for the WSA in the Snow Hawk class ( of course ) *The sleds seemed to doo pretty good. *Not alot of speed since it's just a little leeaf blower motor. *The bike is a lot wider than it looks. *I took one for a VERY little spin and it was weird all around. *I guess I could not get used to the fact that it was a snow bike. *Rode like a moto-x bike but anywere on the snow. *I bet we will see more of them next season. * http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

I saw them run at a few races and i would not one, also they seem like you need alot of experience to ride them or they seem to do alot of weird things, *like throw you off ,or fall over.

winterfreak,
*one has to look a couple times to be sure those are not REV's in that picture. *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

I wonder how a company can still be around and not really have a full production unit http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif They do sorta look like a rev with one ski though paul http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleepy.gif

see?
i was wondering to see if anyone else noticed that!
so how much do you think Bombarier had to do with this if they did ?

Rumor in SnowTech says that Bombardier might have more to do with the snowhawk than meets the eye http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

a lot meets the eye!
volume 13 no.4 of supertrak also mentions that!
they also call it a mutant sled!
a mutant rev mabee http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

hummmmmmm...if you look REALLLLLLLLY close there is Ski-Doo ski's on EVERY one of them also *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I think bombardier helped to build it but didn't mentionned the REV to A.D. boivin. They have done buisness with AD Boivin before with that arc suspension. Bombardier might of been testing the interest for the new seating position and ridding style of these sleds.

Bombardier's participation in the project extends no further than the engine it supplies to A.D. Boivin.

The Snow Hawk is in no way connected to BBD.

Why can't anybody accept that A.D. Boivin has worked extremely hard over the last six years to produce the 'Hawk?

-Rob

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (paul yarek @ April 13, 2002, 9:47pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">sportx,
*i can&#39;t think of anyone that wants one of those so the sno hawk has a long row to hoe. *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif[/b][/quote]
Actually, in 2001, A.D. Boivin was sold out before the first vehicle was even built, so the demand is there, just perhaps not in your region.

They basically did their first production run with a name on each &#39;Hawk.

As for this year, production numbers have been tripled, and about 2/3&#39;s of those are reserved.

-Rob

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WINTERFREAK @ April 14, 2002, 09:33am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well the Vig boy&#39;s ran them this season for the WSA in the Snow Hawk class ( of course ) *The sleds seemed to doo pretty good. *Not alot of speed since it&#39;s just a little leeaf blower motor. *The bike is a lot wider than it looks. *I took one for a VERY little spin and it was weird all around. *I guess I could not get used to the fact that it was a snow bike. *Rode like a moto-x bike but anywere on the snow. *I bet we will see more of them next season. * http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/b][/quote]
C&#39;mon now, you&#39;ll have to ride it more than once to get a real feel for it.

Just picture sand everywhere!

-Rob

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (highlandergerman @ April 14, 2002, 12:19pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I saw them run at a few races and i would not one, also they seem like you need alot of experience to ride them or they seem to do alot of weird things, *like throw you off ,or fall over.[/b][/quote]
Actually,

The guys driving the &#39;Hawks in the series started their season with very little experience on them and as you can see - they&#39;ve done quite well. * They do drive motocross bikes in the summer from time to time, but they&#39;re not Pro riders by any means.

I drive an Enduro bike during the summer and I had no problem adapting to the &#39;Hawk during the winter. *Your background does help you get started a little faster, but by no means is it required.

-Rob

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (z800rtx @ April 14, 2002, 2:53pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wonder how a company can still be around and not really have a full production unit http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif They do sorta look like a rev with one ski though paul http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleepy.gif[/b][/quote]
Wha?

Where have you been lately?

The Snow Hawk has been in production for over a year now.

The REV is completely different from the &#39;Hawk, BTW.

-Rob

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AC @ April 15, 2002, 3:10pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think bombardier helped to build it but didn&#39;t mentionned the REV to A.D. boivin. They have done buisness with AD Boivin before with that arc suspension. Bombardier might of been testing the interest for the new seating position and ridding style of these sleds.[/b][/quote]
FYI, Bombardier had absolutely nothing to do with the design and/or development of the Snow Hawk. *Yes, they provide the motivational force with the engine, but no differently than how Home Depot supplies the nails for your new shed. That&#39;s it.

It&#39;s true that Bombardier did purchase the rights to use the single swingarm rear suspension (the Expert) as an OEM, but this simply gave A.D. Boivin the financial means to develop the Snow Hawk a little further, to be where they are today.

As for the REV and the Snow Hawk "awareness" issue, what difference does it make? *The REV is the equivalent of a sporty quad - like a Raptor - while the Snow Hawk is like a motocross bike. *Two completely different markets.

The target market for these machines do not really overlap. *REV&#39;ers are still traditional snowmobilers.

-Rob

Good to know that they were desing and built by AD boivin and not Bomb. makes a better chance to developpe new technologies which can be used in sleds in the future. As for the difference with the REV, I would have to try the snowhawk but it does seem like a rev with 1 ski and 1/2 the power. I don&#39;t think its going to be used on trails anytime soon but it does look fun to drive in snowcross competitions.

I am well aware that they are into there so called full production but i find it strange that i have yet to see one besides at a sled show.And i put on lots of miles in some super popular areas.



Last edited by Rocketman at April 18, 2002, 11:34am

i would really like to try one though!
LabradorBoy you seem pretty serios about these things, do you have one , or know some one that desind it?

sportx....LabradorBoy is none other than Rob Pilgrim, an Engineer with AD Boivin. *Im sure he had PLENTY of time to tinker on a few *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Welcome to the group Rob *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

hey thats really cool!
how much do they sell for http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WINTERFREAK @ April 17, 2002, 6:19pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">sportx....LabradorBoy is none other than Rob Pilgrim, an Engineer with AD Boivin. *Im sure he had PLENTY of time to tinker on a few *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Welcome to the group Rob *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/b][/quote]
Hi Chris,

I feel like I know you...did I meet you in Novi with Joe D.?

I knew it wouldn&#39;t be long before somebody busted me, but that&#39;s ok. *This winter has been awesome, lots of saddle time on the &#39;Hawks.

Thanks for the intro, I will be hanging around for a while.

-Rob

How well would these snowhawks stay upright if you needed to cross a little bit of pavement?? *It would seem as though the front ski would slip to the side.

dooittoit,
*you have a point there for sure because when i was a farm kid and we had our own welder i made up a ski for my honda ct70. we used the skiis for riding when there was little snow and when crossing the road we had to get off and walk along side because the ski would slide the front out from underneath the bike. now with the carbides who knows ? it might even be worse.

HEY LABRADOR HOW COME YOU GUYS DIDN&#39;T PUT A RACE 440 FAN ENGINE IN THE SNO-HAWK



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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dooittoit @ April 21, 2002, 2:47pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How well would these snowhawks stay upright if you needed to cross a little bit of pavement?? *It would seem as though the front ski would slip to the side.[/b][/quote]
Well, they cross pavement pretty easily, actually. *I personally have a thing with hearing carbide on asphalt or gravel (&#33http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif, so I usually gas it to lift the ski as I cross, as long as it&#39;s not a high-traffic area.

Those carbides dig fairly hard, so there&#39;s no reason for the front end of the &#39;Hawk to slide out on asphalt any more than it would on ice.

I have not had any incidents yet.

-Rob

Labradorboy, Did you have any part in the engineering of the ETS kit for SC-10 cause it totally rocks !!! One thing that you should do is to make a 2 rate spring kit for skidoo&#39;s. *I needed some springs rated for 380 pounds on my sled + oversize bushing and ETS kit for it not to bottom in rough trails and I&#39;m 230 pounds. Those stiff springs do make the ride a bit rough but it&#39;s better than breaking my spine on stiff moguls. Wouldn&#39;t there be a way to put a spring on the central shock so that it only works in the last 3" of susp. or something? I did this on an everest 79 but reluctant to play with my mxz not to mention to weld a gas shock *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif .

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (03&#39; 440 PRO X @ April 21, 2002, 9:25pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HEY LABRADOR HOW COME YOU GUYS DIDN&#39;T PUT A RACE 440 FAN ENGINE IN THE SNO-HAWK



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Well,

The 503 was more readily available and to be honest with you, the 503 had a broader, more usable torque curve that was more suitable to our application. *The 503 is not as sensitive to elevation, temperature or jetting changes either.

Don&#39;t you worry though, you&#39;re going to see more engine options in the no-so-distant future.

-Rob

LabradorBoy, glad to see you joined us, you will find this site pretty usefull as you get all the pros and cons of what a real life user expriences with your product, there are not to many hawk owners here but im sur its growing pretty fast ! I personaly would love to take one for a ride, maybe next year !



Last edited by DanR at April 22, 2002, 12:02pm

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DanR @ April 22, 2002, 12:01pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LabradorBoy, glad to see you joined us, you will find this site pretty usefull as you get all the pros and cons of what a real life user expriences with your product, there are not to many hawk owners here but im sur its growing pretty fast ! I personaly would love to take one for a ride, maybe next year ![/b][/quote]
Well, thank you for the welcome.

I have been a seven-year member of several newgroups before I was directed to this BB and I must say that this one is very nice. *Newgroups are what make us strong as snowmobilers and it&#39;s a great way for us to collaborate, solve our problems quickly and share advice as snowmobilers in general.

Unfortunately, this BB is horribly slow to load, but I&#39;m dealing with it!

-Rob

you find it slow? What kind of connection are you on? It is very fast for me.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LabradorBoy @ April 22, 2002, 2:38pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Unfortunately, this BB is horribly slow to load, but I&#39;m dealing with it![/b][/quote]
I am accessing with a 28.8 dialup at the moment and it seems to load great. Maybe not the fastest but definately not the slowest by ANY means...

28.8!?!?!? *Holy crap! *And you can put up with that?
MY 56K connection at home drives me nuts. *I like this DSL connection here at work.
Maybe I&#39;m just impatient.

the 28.8 conection is probably the one in his limo! *after spending all the $$$ on a P5 5000 megahertz with a 52 inch screen he ran out of $$$ for the modem ! *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Cable is nice and fast. I can&#39;t have anything else after this or I&#39;ll go nuts. Great for down loading videos and pics.
Caleb

I had cable modem last summer/fall. It was awesome!
Then I moved, and DSL isn&#39;t even available on my road yet. *Sux!
Could get high-speed with satellite TV, but that&#39;s $70/mo plus a $350 modem.
Gotta put up with 56k. *At least it&#39;s cheap.
And at least we&#39;ve got DSL at work!

Uh, whoops! *This topic&#39;s gonna get moved to the General forum pretty quick here!

So, actually what I meant to say was gee I don&#39;t think a snowbike looks like that much fun. *Might be neat to try but doesn&#39;t really look that exciting.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (performancex @ April 24, 2002, 3:01pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Uh, whoops! *This topic&#39;s gonna get moved to the General forum pretty quick here!

So, actually what I meant to say was gee I don&#39;t think a snowbike looks like that much fun. *Might be neat to try but doesn&#39;t really look that exciting.[/b][/quote]
http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif

you are in the general forum * http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/exclamation.gif

http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Well, whoops again. *I meant it was gonna get moved to the Off-Topic forum!