I was wondering what would win on thwe lake a SRX or RX1, i ride with a guy that has a srx and he gets about 112mph out of it, it is stock 1998. I had a 1996 storm and i would take him as soon as we got to 70 mph i got 124mph on radar with it some clutching. anyways i sold the storm, it rode like a tank, and im looking to get a rx1 warrior i just want to make sure i will be able to keep up. will i??

probably not for 1/4 mile after that imo, yes. the srx has the fastest 1/4 mile time ever recorded by amsnow during there shootout,#13 shootout i think. trailwise i think the'll both be about the same as far as handling goes, the thumper is heavy cuase of the engine,and the srx is more of a lake racer than a trail rider. also it sounds like your buddies sled needed some work,that thing should be able to do at least 120mph or so.

My SRX is pretty much bone stock, the quickest I've radared at was 114MPH. The quickest SRX I've ever seen ran around 122-125, but that's with extensive modifications.

If we're talking stock for stock, the RX1 and the SRX are pretty much neck and neck - I've seen it go both ways. With a little work (gearing and/or clutching) there's not much that will out-run the RX1. The top end is phenominal - getting there can be tricky as that torquey 4-stroke and heavy front end combine to create quite a problem getting the power to the snow. Even well studded, they tend to spin. Get it set up right and there's not much that would beat one - notable exceptions are the ZR9 and (one would have to imagine...) the new Mach Z.

More importantly, the RX-1 doesn't ride/handle like the big triples of yester-year. They are good handling and have a nice ride. It's no REV, but you'll be pleasantly surprised.

thank you for the info. exactly what i was looking for. i was wondering about the handling of the rx1 i know it is heavy, but i was more concerned about the suspension, i know my buddies srx doesnt have the best suspension but it does have a great plush seat. well that helps alot at least i know i can keep up to him, he even get great gas milage too. i guess the rx1 is fenominal on fuel. what year is your sled. and would you consider buying an rx1 or would you stick to the 2 stroke? have you ever raced a rx1? or polaris storm (XCR 800) triple triple??

Get a Warrior, install a heavy hitter clutch kit, about 126 Megabite studs and a K&N filter kit and you will be very pleased and find yourself looking for those sleds you just mentioned :devil:

Especially with the new driver adjustable suspension. I was consistently smoking all my buddies on the lake last season with my RX-1.

Originally posted by Mcfly@Jun 23 2004, 10:34 PM
thank you for the info. exactly what i was looking for. i was wondering about the handling of the rx1 i know it is heavy, but i was more concerned about the suspension, i know my buddies srx doesnt have the best suspension but it does have a great plush seat. well that helps alot at least i know i can keep up to him, he even get great gas milage too. i guess the rx1 is fenominal on fuel. what year is your sled. and would you consider buying an rx1 or would you stick to the 2 stroke? have you ever raced a rx1? or polaris storm (XCR 800) triple triple??
Yeah, that plush seat sure makes up for the lack of suspension... :D

You won't likely get as good mileage, but close. I don't know how the 700 triple gets the mileage that it does... it baffles the mind.

I've got quite a bit of seat time on the RX1, and I'd definitely consider buying one. They are a terrific all-round trail sled (despite some claims to the contrary). And, yes I've raced my buddy's RX1 once. I took him in the low/mid range, then when I topped out, he went walking past... :cussing: Oh well, such is life.

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you dont think i will get as good as mileage as the srx??? i thought that the srx got 10-14 mpg and the rx1 got 15-20 depending on the riding you do?? so how much difference would you say in the 1/4 mile between the 2??? and which do you think is the better sled rx1 or rx1 warrior. the warrior has the 136 inch track but i wonder if that will take form the top end?? so what did your buddies rx1 top out at?? i kow you said your srx got 114 , my buddies gets 112 but his is the 1998 137hp and i think yours is 143hp or something. but ya they are definaltey great on fuel for a 2 stroke but i didnt think as good as the 4 stoke after all 2 stroke are dumoing in fuel every other stroke.

by the way thanks for the good detail.

I averaged 17.5 mpg's with my mods and I ride it hard. Another thing to consider is the fact that you don't need 2-smoke oil anymore :D

I ran the oil from the factory for about 350 miles and then changed it. The change which took me thru the rest of the season cost me less than 1 gallon of the injecter oil I ran in my MachZ's :D

The last trip of the season, I took $8.00 less everytime at the pump compared to the closest sled and they all used at least 1 quart of oil each day for another savings of probably $10.00. Everything considered, I saved over $20.00 per day compared to next sled. Talk about pissing off my riding buddies :devil:

Originally posted by Mighty RX-1@Jun 23 2004, 11:24 PM
Get a Warrior, install a heavy hitter clutch kit, about 126 Megabite studs a K&N filter kit,* and find yourself looking for those sleds you just mentioned* :devil:
because they're so far ahead rite? :p

Originally posted by Mcfly@Jun 24 2004, 10:55 PM
you dont think i will get as good as mileage as the srx??? i thought that the srx got 10-14 mpg and the rx1 got 15-20 depending on the riding you do?? so how much difference would you say in the 1/4 mile between the 2??? and which do you think is the better sled rx1 or rx1 warrior. the warrior has the 136 inch track but i wonder if that will take form the top end?? so what did your buddies rx1 top out at?? i kow you said your srx got 114 , my buddies gets 112 but his is the 1998 137hp and i think yours is 143hp or something. but ya they are definaltey great on fuel for a 2 stroke but i didnt think as good as the 4 stoke after all 2 stroke are dumoing in fuel every other stroke.

by the way thanks for the good detail.
I'm only talking from the 2 RX-1's I ride with. They still used slightly (very slightly) more fuel... they're really so close - it's difficult to tell. For instance - one day this winter that there were about 12 of us doing some big miles, we all filled together. Of every sled in the group I used the least amount of fuel and mine happened to be the highest HP sled. The thirstiest was an 800 twin, which took $30 of regular, where I used $21 of premium... that's quite a difference. I think the 2 RX-1's were around the $25 mark. Like I said, why that particular engine is so efficient is beyond me. But, that's just one example...

But, like Mighty said, you also save considerable $$ on injector oil. That's another consideration.

Personally, I'd buy the RX-1 over the Warrior (this year's anyways), just because I think that Yamaha has made significant improvements to the rear skid. That was the biggest advantage to the Warrior - ride quality. I think (from what I've read), this year's RX-1 is going to ride like a 2005 sled, rather than a 1999 model.

As far as which is truly faster - who knows?? It's like anything else - there are so many other factors so consider. Racing the same 2 machines twice in a row might yield different results... All I can say is that they're definitely close.

Originally posted by Good2Go@Jun 25 2004, 06:52 PM
because they're so far ahead rite? :p
You still ride a Formula mx? You da man w00t

the hossman had it right with the numbers he said but the srx is always faster then the rx1 or should be. as for the 96 storm doing 120 mph+ :dazed: ..... the ride would go to the rx1. now im saying this on the assumption were talking hard pack or ice. now if there is anything more then 3" of snow then it might go the other way. i have seen sxr`s do 118mph and some teams at 120+ but just for an average trail rider pulls up to a lake and go i would expect to see speeds around 111-115mph range

Originally posted by Mighty RX-1@Jun 25 2004, 10:53 PM
You still ride a Formula mx? You da man w00t
hey i am proud of that. :D

have you ever raced a storm or xcr 800 triple with your srx??? i owned one and it rode like crap but fast real fast i had 192 studs in it rocked but for trails it was useless. anyways with the info you have given me im am about 99% im will be buying a rx1 i like the limitededtion red and silver one 2004 model. is there anything i have to look out for??

Never raced an XCR or a Storm... raced lots of 800 twins though, they are no competition. :D I don't think there's much to 'watch out for' with an '04 RX-1 - except maybe that I think you'd be much happier with an '05... but I realize that $$ doesn't grow on trees.

Good Luck!

Nothing bad with the 04's but get an 05 if you can swing it. The 05 RX-1 rear skid is awesome from what I have been told from guys that have rode it. The lighter weight is also noticable. If you must go 04 for financial reasons get a Warrior, much better ride and traction than the 04 RX-1.

so the 05 rx1 is better than the 05 warrior ??? well i can get a brand new 04 rx1 limited red and silver for 10000 they are usually like 12000 or so but they dont have any warriors. so is the 05 rx1 better than the 05 warroior???

OK, here's the scoop. 04 RX-1's had many improvements over 03; new shocks, springs, seat and track to mention a few. 05 RX-1 improvements include the new mono shock rear skid, another new seat and lighter weight components. 05 Warriors retained the pro-action rear skid which in my opinion is great stetched to 136 inches and should have been born at that length. If you want to stick with an 04 look for a Warrior. The longer rear skid makes it ride much better than the 121 incher plus you get better hook up and flotation. For 05, it's my understanding that the new mono shocker will ride as good if not better than the 136 incher with easier on the fly adjustments. I still believe the Warrior will handle the moguls better because it can bridge the bumps with it's longer length. I had an 03 RX-1 and currently have an 04 Warrior and in my opinion there is no comparison. The Warriror does everything better except for top end which it probably only looses a few mph's. But keep this in mind; the Warrior gets to top end quicker because of traction.

I see you're from Ontario. If the conditions are usually really nice the RX-1 would probably suit you fine. If you get into the rough stuff with moguls you would be much happier with the Warrior.

Originally posted by Mighty RX-1@Jun 30 2004, 09:13 AM
I see you're from Ontario. If the conditions are usually really nice the RX-1 would probably suit you fine. If you get into the rough stuff with moguls you would be much happier with the Warrior.
Mighty, how can you make that statement without riding the '05 in the rough stuff? I agree with that comparison based on the '03 and '04 suspensions though. I have put probably a hundred miles on an '03 and it beat the CRAP out of me in the rough stuff. Between the suspension and the rock hard seat I could hardly take it. I am very hopeful that the new thicker seat and new rear suspension makes my '05 Shorty ride more like my old Cat I just sold.

Sorry Mighty, I guess I missed reading a few posts in there. I didn't realize you were talking about '04's.

Originally posted by QCRider@Jun 30 2004, 02:58 PM
Sorry Mighty, I guess I missed reading a few posts in there. I didn't realize you were talking about '04's.
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