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10-30-2004, 03:26 PM
Post your theft deterrent ideas here!

ExplorerSVT
10-31-2004, 01:46 AM
A Polaris Cover!

J/K :D

How about this track lock. (http://www.shadetreesnowmobile.com/cgi-bin/42F913F3/mac/additmdtl.mac/showItemDetail?item=99-1059&qtyA=38&phsO=Y&desc=E-Z%20TRAXX%20TRACK%20LOCK&drpshp=N&alOrd=Y&iQty=.000&oQty=.000&initQty=1&itemForSale=Y&styleName=&fixD=&face=.00&gftc=&stck=Y&prefS=&calledFrom=DS&ordInfo1=&ordInfo2=&ordInfo3=&ordMan1=N&ordMan2=N&ordMan3=N&persCode=&persReqd=&persLink=) Only $15

ridered79
11-02-2004, 04:55 PM
thats funny... :lmao:

smclelan
11-02-2004, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by ExplorerSVT@Oct 31 2004, 01:08 AM
A Polaris Cover!*

J/K* :D




LMAO :lmao: :lmao:

Buddy of Jawz
11-02-2004, 10:17 PM
:lmao: that was funny

WoodyCam
11-03-2004, 10:58 AM
I have a 1/2" or 3/4" cable I got from Home Depot with some high quality locks. We can lock all 4 sleds together thru the rear suspension. When we are back at our hotel, we usually load them back up in my enclosed trailer. I've got heavy duty locks on the doors, and welded beads on the hinge pins so they can't just remove the door. If I ever have to remove a door, I'd just grind the bead off.

We leave the trailer hooked to the truck, with locks on the tongue and the hitch pin.

Hope this helps someone out.

GoNe_aWoL
11-03-2004, 11:13 AM
Nothing newer than an '88 :D

TTT... Let's get serious here... I almost bought a Masterlock mechanism with a decent size cable on it... They were cheap enough, If I had the $ for a pair of bolt cutters, I would've gotten a spare lock along with the cutters and found out how good they were...

spikegary
11-03-2004, 12:12 PM
.357 Magnum loaded with hollow points..........let the dogs eat the evidence when I'm done.

Only kidding. I have a coated 1/2" cable with locks, I loop the front suspensions of the sleds on the trailer, rung the cable down and through the lock on the tongue of the trailer. Looking for a good lock for the receiver now.

SEXltsp
11-03-2004, 12:18 PM
Hidden kill switch.

84EVR
11-03-2004, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by SEXltsp@Nov 3 2004, 11:40 AM
Hidden kill switch.
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That's probably the best one yet.

Besides the Polaris cover. :lmao:

vapourtrail
11-04-2004, 02:03 PM
i used to park my yamaha inbetween some doos.i always felt safe.even left my key in the ignition by mistake a couple of times............. :(

ridered79
11-04-2004, 05:49 PM
this trick works as well, if you have no lock and your not really feeling like your sled is safe, pop the hood open and throw a few tools on the seat? and curse the whole way into the bar. usally you get a few tips on your supposed problems????

DeeMan
11-04-2004, 06:05 PM
I searched the web and found this lock:
http://www.alarmlocks.com/atv.htm This has a cable that you weave thru any part of your sled. Each end of the cable goes into an alarm box creating a loop. If someone cuts the cable the alarm goes off.

If nothing else, a thief would fear seeing an electronic box and move along. A lock would be okay in a parking lot for short term I guess.

I don't have any feeling of security with a lock or cable - they are sooo easy to cut with a saw or bolt cutters. I have to keep my sleds outside this year and I am worried!

winterx700
11-08-2004, 09:47 PM
I still like the polaris cover idea....

Psxbs
11-08-2004, 11:19 PM
I haven't thought about it much. I usually take the keys out and leave it sit.

SkidooDave
11-15-2004, 03:50 PM
Polaris cover! Thats a good one. :lmao:

WKinneIII
11-17-2004, 07:16 PM
Polaris cover Nice, I guess you could make sure everyone knows you have a series three motor in yer doo... And from what I hear AC has there own theft deterant system, they catch on fire about a mile down the road, although they have had some problems with this backfiring on the owners.

Actually though i try to lock all the sleds together with a cable.
Wayne

Mighty RX-1
11-18-2004, 12:00 AM
I myself prefer .40 cal as in my Glock 27, I never leave home without it :devil:

I think the best Idea is leaving tools on the seat, but if you insist on covering it the Polaris cover works great :lmao:

Of course Insurance is a must. Late in the season I have to admit it would nice to see my sled gone in the morning, it would assure a new one for the following fall without taking a beating on a trade in :D

WKinneIII
11-18-2004, 12:03 AM
I might be able to help you with that one mighty :lol:
Wayne

permafrost
11-18-2004, 12:07 AM
An idea I read elsewhere stuck in my mind. When staying at hotels a baby monitor could be left under the hood and will alert you too anybody messing with the sled.

Perm

spikegary
11-22-2004, 12:41 PM
Wow=that's a cool idea! And inexpensive.

goose
12-02-2004, 11:49 PM
here is something to think about. you go through all that trouble and money parking your sleds in an enclosed trailer and putting reciever locks, good door hinges and locks. all they have to do is remove the nut on the ball and slide it on their reciever, put the nut on and take their time cutting locks off in their garage. so it might be a good idea to buy one more cable and run it through your vehicle frame or hitch and around your trailer toungh some how. :bash:

Do the Doo
12-03-2004, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by goose@Dec 2 2004, 11:11 PM
here is something to think about. you go through all that trouble and money parking your sleds in an enclosed trailer and putting reciever locks, good door hinges and locks. all they have to do is remove the nut on the ball and slide it on their reciever, put the nut on and take their time cutting locks off in their garage. so it might be a good idea to buy one more cable and run it through your vehicle frame or hitch and around your trailer toungh some how.* :bash:
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There are receivers, specially the three ball types, where there is no nut. The balls are welded to the receiver. I use them regularly to tow boats with the company truck. Ball usually wear out so we replace the whole unit.
I have good insurance and 5 locks all on at one time. I do carry a 15 foot cable in the sled that cannot be cut with cutters and a chain on the trailer that needs a hydraulic cutter to get through...To many locks, theives are not going to waste there time. Couple locks they will go after...

Bauer
12-13-2004, 12:15 AM
I am going to be making a small platform in my truck which will be bolted to my 5th wheel plate. It will be about 4 inches high, and wide enough for the track. I will be mounting a track lock type thing that slides over the rails to the platform. The lock will be made of a very strong steel, along with a really good pad lock to keep it in place. It will be good because with it being bolted to the plate in the box, it iwll be almost impossible to get undone with the sled sitting there, and the sled will be locked to the truck, so they can't just take it off and then worry about the locks and stuff after, they will have to cut the lock while sitting in the back of the truck. Another plus is that incase of an accident, the sled should stay pretty steady in the back of the truck.


Bauer

goldbergrx1
12-13-2004, 07:54 PM
you could also take your plugs out over night.................just dont leave a spare next to it :sarcasm:

rvanderklok
12-16-2004, 04:04 PM
I have an older sled. So it's easy enough to pull the ignition wires off and start it. So what I did is reversed the wires. So On is really 'off' and 'off' is really 'on'. Perspective thief thinks............Hey! the key's in it! Turns it to on and starts pulling........ Then thinks there may be something wrong.........So disconnects the ignition and starts pulling some more..........Little does he/she know......that the CDI box is in my pocket!

But I definately like the baby monitor idea! Wonder how long the battery will last when it's -20 out! But I do have a plug in my parking spot at home for a block heater......I guess I could just plug it in when I'm at my apartment....

underdog
01-16-2005, 10:54 PM
:lmao: Polaris cover. :lmao:
Hidden kill switch ,and I take my belt off.You can put your belt, and spare in each of your jacket arms where ever you are, when you have your coat off. Works great at busy bars, or restarants. Just don't lose your cool Ski Doo coat.

FormulaIII700
01-31-2005, 11:06 AM
I like the Polaris cover idea! LMAO!

I also like the hidden kill switch idea, but in reality it takes about the same amount of time to open the hood of an older sled and pull the plug off the ignition, than it does to drop a tailgate and flop it in the back of the truck.

I made some stickers up for my windshields that put it plain and simple.

Protected by Boomerang tracking

NewfieBullet
01-31-2005, 09:36 PM
The Polaris cover idea works wonders. I've had them for both of my last two sleds, and neither of them has ever been stolen.
Some great ideas here, but many of them seem to lean towards overkill.
If it's in the back of the truck I usually just back up close to a wall or another vehicle. If a thief can lift the sled out over the side he deserves the sled. Same thing goes for a trailer. Just back it close enough to the wall that it can't be detached and moved. That and lock on a safety chain.

ExplorerSVT
02-05-2005, 07:16 PM
Any ideas on how to lock a trailer lid down? Right now I just have 3" master locks instead of the stock pins, but those are so easy to cut. I have looked into trailer hitch locks that go through the latch but I dont think any of them would be long enough. Would have to be about 2" long.

84EVR
03-11-2005, 01:03 PM
Usually when in the UP. We just park the sled in front of the motel, take the key out and call it a night.
That's what insurance is for partly. If someone wants something bad enough, they will find a way.

nitrosleds
09-06-2005, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by goldbergrx1@Dec 13 2004, 10:01 PM
you could also take your plugs out over night.................just dont leave a spare next to it :sarcasm:
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problem with that one is going to let moisture in the engine

nitrosleds
09-06-2005, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by nitrosleds@Sep 6 2005, 04:48 PM
problem with that one is going to let moisture in the engine
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take a small pair of vice grips with you coat the teeth with rubber or wrap the teth with rubber and then clam it on your pull starter and leave it hang over the seat

fuel shut off valve turn it off that might help

kylekk
11-13-2005, 07:33 PM
The stupid thing about Polaris sleds is that there is only 5 different keys Polaris uses for there sleds. My key in my 1998 600 rmk will fit in my dads 2006 700 rmk. pretty bad . so i suggest switching out the key ignition in in your sled if its a Polaris .

sludgemagnet
12-14-2005, 08:00 PM
The stupid thing about Polaris sleds is that there is only 5 different keys Polaris uses for there sleds. My key in my 1998 600 rmk will fit in my dads 2006 700 rmk. pretty bad . so i suggest switching out the key ignition in in your sled if its a Polaris .
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Quite true about key codes - same thing is true with ford vehicles, although there are more variations. Some of you might know that in most cases a key is not required to start the engine anyway. No-------- I will not explain how that is done.

The post about plugs did bring a thought to mind - it takes very little time to remove good plugs and replace them with " modified plugs " that will not fire. Let the thief pull the rope to his hearts content, eh?

M-Max
01-21-2006, 12:49 PM
I just take an old set of plugs and break off the ground. The cylinders are protected the plugs will
not fire and most people will try and find something easier.
I also employ a mobile patrol. 100 lbs of drooling German Shepard that would likely enjoy the chase.

Killer
01-24-2006, 10:45 PM
most of this stuff won't work other than deterring some joy rider. most real thiefs throw them in the back of a van or pick up and off they go.

Stay at places that have locked areas for sleds, or leave the sled in a well lit, high traffic area.

sledshed
01-24-2006, 11:34 PM
I guess a good insurance policy with replacement would be the best. I sure as heck wouldn't want the sled back after someone beat the heck out of it! :bash: As for any kind of locks they only stop the people that don't steal. I like the monitor idea. Maybe somebody will develop a weather resistent model for snowmobilers with a motion sensor alarm and baseball rack for next to your bed. :whistling: I think he fell officer!

Tattoo3235
02-13-2006, 12:35 AM
My sno pro doesn't have a key so I carry a pair of handcuffs. I know, just hear me out. Unlock one cuff and put it through one of the holes on your brake rotor, then lock it back up. Just don't forget to carry a cuff key too. If they really want it bad enough, they are going to get it. Atleast with mine, they have to carry it because the track will not spin.

vapourtrail
02-15-2006, 12:16 PM
like i said earlier,always park in the middle of the pack when you're with a group of riders. :undercover: it's like those little fish that you see on discovery that all swim in one big pack so that only the outside fish get eaten. :hallo1: simple but it makes me feel safe.funny thing is that i haven't told my friends about this so they are always asking me why i always try to pull inbetween them everytime we pull into a restaurant.i just tell them that it is a bad habit. :D

alwaysinneedofhelp
02-19-2006, 08:54 PM
REmove belt , fuel shut off, remove plugs, my personnel fav. is taking gas line off lol. 1 of my friends do it

Polar_Bus
03-22-2006, 11:31 AM
A Polaris Cover!

J/K :D

How about this track lock. (http://www.shadetreesnowmobile.com/cgi-bin/42F913F3/mac/additmdtl.mac/showItemDetail?item=99-1059&qtyA=38&phsO=Y&desc=E-Z%20TRAXX%20TRACK%20LOCK&drpshp=N&alOrd=Y&iQty=.000&oQty=.000&initQty=1&itemForSale=Y&styleName=&fixD=&face=.00&gftc=&stck=Y&prefS=&calledFrom=DS&ordInfo1=&ordInfo2=&ordInfo3=&ordMan1=N&ordMan2=N&ordMan3=N&persCode=&persReqd=&persLink=) Only $15[/b]


One GOOD tip for american sledders up in Canada (especially of you tow with a GM vehicle. COVER YOUR VIN ON THE DASH.

raceguy
03-22-2006, 05:09 PM
One GOOD tip for american sledders up in Canada (especially of you tow with a GM vehicle. COVER YOUR VIN ON THE DASH.
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Why's that??? :unsure:

Polar_Bus
04-04-2006, 12:57 PM
Why's that??? :unsure:
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What is being done, is a "spotter" observes a USA origined GM vehicle (usually hauling a 4 place enclosed) heading to a popular hotel. The spotter contacts the hotel's "inside" stooge, who then copy's the GM vehicle's VIN #. With any GM VIN #, and if you know exactly WHO within GM corp to call (or you have a GM dealer in your "back pocket"), you can get a 6 digit key code that corresponds to that specific VIN, then if you have the correct key cutter, you can cut a fresh key, and just drive off. As I have said before, sled thefts in Canada are EXTREMELY well organized.

raceguy
04-05-2006, 06:32 AM
What is being done, is a "spotter" observes a USA origined GM vehicle (usually hauling a 4 place enclosed) heading to a popular hotel. The spotter contacts the hotel's "inside" stooge, who then copy's the GM vehicle's VIN #. With any GM VIN #, and if you know exactly WHO within GM corp to call (or you have a GM dealer in your "back pocket"), you can get a 6 digit key code that corresponds to that specific VIN, then if you have the correct key cutter, you can cut a fresh key, and just drive off. As I have said before, sled thefts in Canada are EXTREMELY well organized.
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Wow! :dazed:

Good advice then I'd say....thanks for the heads up on that one.... :thumbsup:

Just can't trust too many people these days, can we? :bash:

8vo fan
04-14-2006, 01:10 AM
If you don't want anything stolen, don't advertise that you have anything to steal! A wealthy friend of mine drove an '89 escort. Everyone razzed him and said why don't you drive your porsche? He said "I can park this behind the bar and leave my breifcase in it and noone will touch it" Makes sense don't it? If you park your car in the city with a fancy stereo in it and lock the doors they will just break the window! Everybody wants to flaunt their good fortune and then cry when they lose it! Use your head more than your money and you will have less trouble!

NewfieBullet
11-24-2006, 07:19 PM
What is being done, is a "spotter" observes a USA origined GM vehicle (usually hauling a 4 place enclosed) heading to a popular hotel. The spotter contacts the hotel's "inside" stooge, who then copy's the GM vehicle's VIN #. With any GM VIN #, and if you know exactly WHO within GM corp to call (or you have a GM dealer in your "back pocket"), you can get a 6 digit key code that corresponds to that specific VIN, then if you have the correct key cutter, you can cut a fresh key, and just drive off. As I have said before, sled thefts in Canada are EXTREMELY well organized.
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You've got to be kidding me. I think you've been watching too many movies.


Again, most of the suggestions seem like such over kill. I can't imagine pulling up to a restaurant, popping the hood and changing out the plugs for broken ones, pulling the belt and the spare, unpluging the ignition, and ensuring that my sled is surrounded by others (which seems to be the best method of the bunch). I usually just pull up to the bar, I usually take my key out, and try not to forget my wallet in the windshield bag.

Phroziac
11-27-2006, 10:18 AM
Nothing newer than an '88 :D

TTT... Let's get serious here... I almost bought a Masterlock mechanism with a decent size cable on it... They were cheap enough, If I had the $ for a pair of bolt cutters, I would've gotten a spare lock along with the cutters and found out how good they were...
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Bolt cutters will probably go through any lock. There's a few problems with using bolt cutters for theft, however:

You need them really sharp to cut through cable. Sharper than needed for solid steel. I've never tested that, however. And they do have cable locks that have an integrated vending machine style lock....it's basically impossible to pick, and there's no solid steel to cut through. Nobody will pick a lock to steal it, regardless. By the way, a local walmart had to use bolt cutters on a lock cable to get me a bicycle a few years ago. Someone went home with the keys in their pocket apparently...

Are you really going to be sneaking around with bolt cutters? They're pretty big, I wouldn't be sneaking around with them in a populated area. You could easily get away with it where I live, though. I've had my garage broken into a few times, and in both cases the thieves managed to load up thousands of dollars worth of equipment and/or car parts. The first time, they kicked the door in. The second time they were complete morons and had no clue what they were doing, and pried the door latch with a screwdriver. It doesn't take much to assume that the second group wouldn't know how to cut a lock off.

Also, if you're going to keep bolt cutters around. and use padlocks, maybe you should lock the bolt cutters up. It'd be awfully convenient for someone to use your bolt cutters on your locks...


You can pretty much disable the sled by taking the belt off it and carrying it with you. It's not all that likely that a thief would have the correct belt to drive off with it, though they could still load it into/onto something to take it...but sleds are pretty heavy, or atleast they were last week. My dad used to do this with our minibikes when I was about this tall __.

joezr2
11-28-2006, 02:31 PM
If we are talking in a parking lot setting I'd say anything visable would make them pass over your sled for an easier target. Unless you are riding a Blade, there's probably another one of your same sled sitting around there that would look easier to steal.

....and yeah....I park in the middle too

beaver670
12-15-2006, 12:41 AM
LOVE THE COVER MABE I'LL TRY THAT

Smokin George
01-03-2007, 11:08 PM
I think the best thing to have is a pager/alarm system and catch the theives in action. They must still have them on the market someplace and they"re easy to install and can be installed almost on anything.

Mach 1
01-04-2007, 11:40 AM
you could also take your plugs out over night.................just dont leave a spare next to it :sarcasm:[/b]

Also pound down the electrodes on a couple old plugs and put those in so some smart a$$ doesn't see the plugs missing and put some crap down the holes.

A hidden fuel shut off is handy too. :D

21049
01-07-2007, 05:50 PM
whats the est way to keep them from getting stolen out of your garage?


need help my neighboor hood is real bad just last week my neighboors 4 wheeler got stolen out of his shed
and my house has been broken into
my other neighboors house has been broken into twice

need them tips

Ambiotic
01-19-2007, 11:12 AM
My sled is a 2002 Arctic Cat. The "pull the wires and she fires" factor applies to mine.
All someone has to do to get the sled running is disconnect the wires from the terminals on the back of the ignition hardware. I found this out when I noticed my key was not in the run position. So, I called up my mechanic and he explained this to me.
Therefore, don't for a second, think that keeping your key with you is enough.
Anyone know how common this scenario is (what year range and manufacturers)?

Pepsi_fuzz
01-26-2007, 09:59 PM
You've got to be kidding me. I think you've been watching too many movies.
Again, most of the suggestions seem like such over kill. I can't imagine pulling up to a restaurant, popping the hood and changing out the plugs for broken ones, pulling the belt and the spare, unpluging the ignition, and ensuring that my sled is surrounded by others (which seems to be the best method of the bunch). I usually just pull up to the bar, I usually take my key out, and try not to forget my wallet in the windshield bag.[/b]

Not a good idea. Next time you're at your machine, lift the hood, unplug your ignition, close the hood. Don't insert key. Pull over by hand, it should start. As far as I know, all Polaris snowmobiles will do this. Learned the hard way, lol. For some reason when my sled was built, they forgot to hook up the ignition. Apparently I only use the kill switch. But had that failed, I'd have no way to shut it off in an emergency. Found out when my uncle wanted to test drive my sled, climbed on it, pulled it over, THEN I noticed he forgot to turn it on. I hauled the key out, and showed him that he forgot to turn it on. Very, very, funny way of finding out how the ignition works on a Polaris. Apparently the key is only good if you have a battery and wish to use your display without starting your engine, or wish to use electric start. If your sled was out of your view, someone could casually walk over as if it were theirs, lift the hood as if they were checking their own machine out, unplug the ignition without anyone noticing, close the hood, haul it over, and drive off. Unless someone saw and knew it was your sled, anyone else probably wouldn't be paying attention and would assume that the person was driving away on their own sled. (Also note, with the ignition hooked up, if the key is in the off position your machine won't run.)

However, you'd be stupid to make it look like you took steps if you were just visiting a restaurant, as the longer you're tinkering with your own machine, the quicker someone is going to catch on to what you are doing.

I would like to have a way of locking the hood so nobody could open it. That would be better than any security measure anyone has, and you wouldn't even need to use the lock unless you had to add oil or check 'er over. It would also prevent anyone from being able to unplug your ignition. A cheap and effective $5 fix.

meg21686
02-05-2007, 02:53 AM
my boyfriends 1993 Mach1 has a modified car alarm/starter that can shut down the sled from a mile away also can start it to. only problem is that damn alarm when i forget to deactivate the sled's alarm. get a lot of dirty looks! :tongue:

Pepsi_fuzz
02-05-2007, 05:48 PM
my boyfriends 1993 Mach1 has a modified car alarm/starter that can shut down the sled from a mile away also can start it to. only problem is that damn alarm when i forget to deactivate the sled's alarm. get a lot of dirty looks! :tongue:[/b]

It still doesn't fix the problem of someone taking the sled in the back of a truck/trailor without starting it. But it's a lot better than my security! lol.

billww
06-05-2007, 08:43 AM
They do have a good tong lock for trailers while they are not hooked up, I got mine at Fleet Farm

XCSP600INVT
09-25-2007, 02:40 PM
I just bought a keypad system that goes on any TPS equipped Polaris Edge, When activated it wont allow the motor to rev higher then 2000RPM means the clutch wont engage so if they want it they will have to drag it. So now all I do is start it up punch the combination in and go....

cisneros56
10-04-2007, 09:13 AM
Not a good idea. Next time you're at your machine, lift the hood, unplug your ignition, close the hood. Don't insert key. Pull over by hand, it should start. As far as I know, all Polaris snowmobiles will do this.[/b]

Went to go pick up my sled after buying it off a relitive at a sled shop. My uncle forgot to leave the key for me so all the guy did was yank the ignition and fire it up so i could still load it up and ride it until i got the key since i just drove 3 hours upnorth to pick it up. He told me on his polaris he has wired up several toggle switches in various hidden locations that must be flipped in the right order to get his to fire up. Sounds like a good idiea and a pain at the same time. I guess it just depends on where you ride and how much your sled means to you.