Sw Ride Cohrane 2005

Hi bro´s and sis´! Add your propositions and ideas about conceivable trips and experience about trips when in Cohrane, in this topic. Consider the possibilty to get gas during the ride - dont want to get cought up in the middel of nowhere :) .Also have in mind that the tripp should suit people with all cind of sleeding-skills (read norwegian lol). If u have maps, links to other webpages, or anything other interesting material, post it here also.Thanks One tripp that I would like to propose right now is to Fraserdale, Otter Rapids and Coral Rapids, and the area around. Have been checking for information about that and as far as I understand its a great journey. /Roger SWRules

LadyK & I were talking last week & we plan to supply maps. We haven't really planned on "guided" trips, but more that groups should get together to suit the riding style of the riders & where they want to go. From Cochrane you can ride in all 4 directions. Mind you easterly is more or less straight out & back w/ nothing @ the turnaround point. Gas is iffy unless you ride into Quebec. However I have heard in the past the permit nazis frown on Ontario sledders riding in to get gas then turning around to go back to Cochrane. Can anyone add to this?

I know Rod has a great "meeting" type room he would probably let us use whenever ..... maybe we could have a general get together where people could meet and discuss thier preferred destinations and styles. I'm hoping to get the Canyon in on one day, plus I'd like to do the trip down to the fire tower, maybe work that in to a larger day.

Mike, that's what we were thinking. Everyone can discuss what they want to do & go from there. Kim & Rod were saying @ the show that the trail has been extended up to New Post Falls. Our group may head up there on the Friday we'll be there. Two of the guys I think are going, haven't been up to northern Ontario before, so that should be an eye opener.

SA and I might just have to hook up with you ........ we'll be riding in from NL on Thursday and I'd like to get to the Canyon again, AND I'd like to get to ride with you again..... 2 birds ... one stone :D

This thread is a good idea :) These are some ideas I have rattling around in my head.. I would like to make it too the canyon hopefully twice. I would also like to goto Kap and back. Another run is to the lookout then down through piston alley to Timmins and back. Then spend some recovery time doing local playdays at some pits and other areas I know of close by. Perm

Hi again! I just cant get this James Bay -tripp out og my head. Who would be interested in make a 2-day tripp up there? Leaving early one day and digging a shelter in the snow near Moosonee and leave the day after. Its about 320 kms between Cohrane and Mosoonee and that should be able to reach for thoose with 4-strokers with no extra fuel and of course its not a problem to bring extra fuelcans. I know its a crazy ride but thoose is often the most interesting ones. Im aware of that we need a guide but I guess theres lots of local sw-members that could help us out. Im probably out of my mind - but let me know if it is a feasible ride. Would be fun, thats for sure. /Roger SWRules

I've been talking to my friends son in law from Cochrane about maybe guiding some local off trail loops if there is an interest. Let me know. That being said, I know of a few local spots were we can play for the day also. There are a couple of pits near town and the one just west of Smooth Rock that we have to hit. I'm in for the Fraserdale runs. Cochrane, Fire tower Smooth Rock/Timmins/Iroquois Falls and back is a nice all trail day ride. The cruisers could doo this ride if they leave the tower and Smooth Rock for an other day. There is a ride that you can doo that takes the trail towards Quebec then turns back along the old rail bed and then a local trail to Iroquois Falls. Nice look out when you cross the train tressel. There is a possibility that a group of 8 to 10 could get a bit of a discount for a 2 night ride to James Bay/Moosonee. I know of a group that is going with a guide for $399cnd. (PP/double occupancy)staying at a trappers camp for the 2 nights(no running water). unisoldier, a guide is a must to get to Moosonee and only a few people have the knowledge and connections to get you there. Man am I starting to get wound up. This is going to be a great week. If you don't get stuck a few times a day your not riding in the right places. :lmao:

hey everyone. i will be around all week to help out or to ride. i like the off trail rides if anyone wants to come with me. power lines and ditches are my fav and of course fraserdale. ( the hills) i wouldn't waste my gas on the little pits around cochrane when fraserdale is close. bigger hills and more challenging. lady k or perm pm me if you want anymore info down this way. all the calls for me are local.

I like the way you think Dahmer. Looking forward to riding with you.

Hi Dahmer! Would be great to sled with ya. At least when Im last and have a fresh track to sled in = less risk of getting stucked :p Do u have the knowledge to get us to Moosonee if that would be one of our rides. I mean, sience your a local sledder? Its great to run with someone that know of all logging roads, powerlines and so on.

Hey Dahmer. Have you ever done the Island Falls to Fraserdale run?

unisoldier i've been to moosenee once about 5 years ago. hell of a ride. amazing stuff to see. i still wouldn't do it without a guide. the moose river changes all the time because of the tide. very dangerous. lots of slush and really big ice pressure cracks. open water. took 11 of us about 12 hours to get there. and 10 hours to get home. you can call extreme tours if you want to go. they will take you or they will know who to send you to. 705 272 6370 or 705 272 9606. ask for mark or bill. fraz i've done the run on the power line once and i've also gone by the ditch. i liked the ditch better. if you get tired you can go on the road for a break.

Dahmer. Is that way at the moose-river the only sleddable way to moosonee? Why not try to follow the railway all the way up? What about the gas/powerlines in the area - any of thoose that link Fraserdale-Moosonee together? Got to be plenty of logging roads up there - maybe its possible to sick-sack between them all the way up? Or is it because of the tough terrain the river is chosen?

Unisoldier , there is no road to Moosenee, only a railbed which I couldnt imagine following the entire distance as bridges wouldnt not be nice to cross by sled. The Mooseriver is the way for the last part of the journey as you cannot blast the sled through impassable muskeg jack pine forests. I have walked through the forests in that area many times. It is nasty stuff with moss going up to your waist. As Dahmer said he wouldnt doo it without a guide and he has already done it. The river changes from day to day, during the trip the guide will go ahead and check the route then come back for you. Another problem in dooing it yourself is not having enough gas to make it there. If I was dooing it I would pay the $$ and stay half way at William Tozers camp, catch some fresh pickerel for dinner and then tell stories till sleep time. :) Perm

perm. couldn't of said it better myself.

Are you guys talking about the fire tower at Greenwater park?

doo 700 we are talking about how the moosenee trip needs a guide. dahmer

Some other points to consider are: 1) Have a Tech / setup session the morning of the first day 2) Arrange groups according to their individual driving styles Eg. Cruisers / Raving lunatics (Like me !) 3) Pre arrange gas / rest stops the night before. 4) Assign sheep herders (D Paige comes to mind) to keep the momentum and take care of lost souls. 5) Get a welcome package together with all attendees name's (cell #s), Trail maps, points of interest and restaurants. Last year we all had a hoot of a time but I think we can make it better if we work together. I'd be happy to bring as many spares/tools to cover sled set ups. If someone can scan and send me a local trail map I'd be happy to duplicate it. Just some thoughts

TD, I was talking to Kim & I'll look mafter the maps. I don't know if cell phones will be much use up there. Unless you're right along Hwy. #11, You'd probably be out of range.

Originally posted by revrnd@Nov 18 2004, 03:37 PM TD, I was talking to Kim & I'll look mafter the maps. I don't know if cell phones will be much use up there. Unless you're right along Hwy. #11, You'd probably be out of range. 364937 Your cells will work on some of the trails. I've made calls while traveling on the A106C and "C" trails going to Timmins. Couldn't tell you for sure if it's all the way though. There will be spots were you will be out of touch by phone. Works OK around town. It is the Nortel Network, so you will need to have ROAM on your phone. Welcome to the James Bay Frontier. Dahmer should know were we can't get phone reception.

Can't save the map I had but use this link and put Cochrane in the town window. you can zoom and add as much detail as you like. Maybe someone else can find a way to save the map. ofsc trail maps from the tour planner page (http://trailmaps.ofsc.on.ca/viewer.htm?ofsc=true)

Originally posted by Thumbdoctor@Nov 18 2004, 03:31 PM Some other points to consider are: 1) Have a Tech / setup session the morning of the first day 2) Arrange groups according to their individual driving styles Eg. Cruisers / Raving lunatics (Like me !) 3) Pre arrange gas / rest stops the night before. 4) Assign sheep herders (D Paige comes to mind) to keep the momentum and take care of lost souls. 5) Get a welcome package together with all attendees name's (cell #s), Trail maps, points of interest and restaurants. Last year we all had a hoot of a time but I think we can make it better if we work together. I'd be happy to bring as many spares/tools to cover sled set ups. If someone can scan and send me a local trail map I'd be happy to duplicate it. Just some thoughts 364933 Some great ideas Simon, once again :inlove: I like the idea of a list, I think it should include maybe other contact info such as a snail mail addy for mailing of pics etc. Points of interest and restaurants is easy there arent many LOL most of what we will look at will be wilderness and gas stations :) I'd like to eat at the rib place in Cochrane, JR's, good food and they love sledders, but we will have to phone and give them a heads up so we can all sit and eat at the same time. Hard to get good service when there is no warning with large groups. The North Adventure Inn has abar type area with a big screen playing sled vids. I am trying to arrange a shuttle service between the 2 hotels so peeps can have a few cocktails :) Lillabelles also has a bar and Tv area for our use. Dpaige is out, he broke his leg and is down for the season. There will be lots of local members coming out for the ride. I hope Machz69 and the artic cat brothers can make it again this time, we had lots of fun with them the last time. I'd like to doo up a welcome package for each attendee this year here's my thoughts a small plastic bag, like the kind you get for a car garbage. Inside maybe a key chain, a few stickers, trail map and a car scraper or something. Kinda like a goodie bag. I am trying to obtain these items by donation :) This year we will have a 50/50 raffle and a prize draw. Tickets will be sold all week long and drawn on the Saturday. Cost yet I havent figured out. I hope we have as many generous sponsors as we did last year. Anyone wanting to donate or knowing someone who does PM me :) Bill Cudney is once again sponsoring the event, Thanks Bill :) Proceeds once again will go to autism reasearch, but if we get enough bling, bling I'd like to make a small donation to the childrens wish foundation on all of our behalves :) Please post comments, ideas and suggestions. :) :) It is going to be a fun time thats for sure. LK

Originally posted by LadyK@Nov 18 2004, 08:20 PM There will be lots of local members coming out for the ride. I hope Machz69 and the artic cat brothers can make it again this time, we had lots of fun with them the last time.365054 Maybe some of the SW gang that water skip @ Connaught can make an appearance as well. I think ditchchick is part of that crew.

What if we take a couple of portable bqs strap them to the machines and sell hotdogs and burgars for lunch breaks and put the proceeds to the cause. At the canyon this would be good they had no food left when I hobbled in.I was there untill we left and that was dark. could take a burner and a big coffee pot also.Or even some chili.First we should contact some businesses to see if we can get some donates of burgers and dogs. I will use my sled to haul most of the stuff.

I was looking thru some info I got @ the Toronto show. North-X-Ride offers trips to Moose Factory Package 1 Trails & Rails 3 days/4 nights ride north on sleds, return by train 250 miles on trail Package 2 James Bay-Onakawana Style 3 days/4 nights ride both ways by sled 500 miles on trail North-X-Ride (http://www.northxride.com)

It is now official. I will NOT be able to come up to the 2005 Cochrane ride. I have another family member getting married next year, and my presence will of course, be required there. With this< I do not have sufficient vacation time available for another trip to the Great White North to go play in the white gold. :( I hope everyone has fun up there, and takes LOTS of pictures.

Wolfie, why dont you just send them a very nice wedding gift and come to Cochrane? Or you could fly up and save some days of travelling. One of us could pick you up at the airport. MikeD is picking up Unisoldier who is coming from Norway :)

Originally posted by LadyK@Dec 5 2004, 05:14 PM Wolfie, why dont you just send them a very nice wedding gift and come to Cochrane? Or you could fly up and save some days of travelling. One of us could pick you up at the airport. MikeD is picking up Unisoldier who is coming from Norway :) 371527 Well, I was a part of the ceremony for my youngest brother last summer. If I were to try your suggestion, I think I'd end up being skinned alive. I fully expect that I will be required to be an active participant of this one as well, as I am the eldest of four. As much as I enjoy meeitng up with everyone, this is a family thing, and they will override any and all plans, as we are all close, and yes, I feel it's important to be there for it. The thing that made my trip possible last winter was having that extra week carried over from the previous year, when I had my accident. I don't have that luxury this time. I get three weeks per year. One is always reserved for the holidays, the second always reserved to get me out of here for a week during the hottest, nastiest month of the summer, leaving the third to schedule wherever I want. This year, that one is simply taken. Additionally, I am also having very serious issues getting my company and Metlife to accept the claim for the medical leave I took last September. Due to this, I am currently dealing with the loss of four weeks pay, all in the name of trying to not do something that would have cost me my job. I am going to be forced into filing a lawsuit to get this issue resolved. At this point, this also leaves me without the resources to pay for such a trip as well. :cussing:

Well Wolfie we sure will miss you :(

Originally posted by LadyK@Dec 6 2004, 01:57 AM Well Wolfie we sure will miss you :( 371691 I will miss everyone else as well.

Hi folks I am new at this site but know lots about Cochrane. I live in Kapuskasing and I am the President of the Northern Corridor du Nord Snowmobile Association, which is the association of all snowmobile clubs from Cochrane to Hearst. I am also Governor for this same area on the Provincial snowmobile association the OFSC. Never go to Moosoonee without a guide. North Fraserdale and the Canyon is nice, but fuel must be arranged ahead of time. East to La Reine Québec is 100 miles one way and don't wory you can gas up & turn arround without any permit problems. Kapuskasing is 105 miles west on the world famous A trail and losts of gas. Looping back to Cochrane from Kap south on the C trail at Smooth Rock Falls then back up on the A106C is great, but don't forget to gas up in Smooth Rock Falls. Any other stuff I can help with let me know. Oh by the way if you are going to buy a trail permit in Ontario just for this ride, please buy it in Cochrane, they need the revenue. Because buying where you ride makes a difference. Thanks

Gaz45 welcome to the site! Come over and hook up with us at Liabelles.

Originally posted by Gaz45@Dec 7 2004, 10:01 PM * East to La Reine Québec is 100 miles one way and don't wory you can gas up & turn arround without any permit problems. 372462 I've done this run on the A105Q only we turned right when the trail turned left down the old rail line. Followed it for a while then rode the side of the road till we found a local trail to Iroquois Falls. One of the high lights of this run was crossing a big tressel. (not on the OFSC trail) Great ride. http://www.dootalk.net/gallery/albums/album140/top_of_tressle_Cochrane_Jan_03.sized.jpg http://www.dootalk.net/gallery/albums/album140/from_tressle.sized.jpg

Damned, should be a fence on that one man :crazy:

Hi again! I´ve heard that the Trail to Fraserdale have been extended further north to Otter Rapids. Can anyone confirm that? Sience Cochrane-Fraserdale-Cohrane is a little short for a dayride I wouldnt mind exploring the area north of Fraserdale if it is trails, logging roads or power/gas-lines there. The more adventure the merrier :D Cya all in Marsch!

Originally posted by unisoldier@Dec 8 2004, 06:59 PM Hi again! I´ve heard that the Trail to Fraserdale have been extended further north to Otter Rapids. Can anyone confirm that? Sience Cochrane-Fraserdale-Cohrane is a little short for a dayride I wouldnt mind exploring the area north of Fraserdale if it is trails, logging roads or power/gas-lines there. The more adventure the merrier* :D Cya all in Marsch! 372821 Maybe someone up there can check to see if the trail has been extended to Otter Rapids. Most people play in the Canyon on the power lines after getting to Fraserdale. 300km. of trail riding up and back plus what ever riding you doo there is not a bad day. There is a road to Otter Rapids that you can ride on or next to if the road has enough snow on it.(it should at that time of year) If your going this way you can stop at the bridge crossing the New Post creek and walk down to the falls. There should also be un-marked trails on the power lines going up to Otter. There is no gas in Otter that I know of so you don't have as much in your sled to play with when you get there. I've driven up in the car and looking from the Otter Rapids Dam, Fraserdale has more big hills and trail options to ride once you get there. There are other un-marked trails, logging roads and power lines at Fraserdale to ride on once you get there. You should have a GPS, Topographic map and a compass if you are going to explore the un-marked trails. By the way what kind of sled are getting when you come? Long or short track? There are day rides with a guide for $55 cnd. I'm interested in the Island falls tour. Check out this site. extreme tours cochrane (http://www.extremetourscochrane.com/Sledtours/index.html) Picture of New Post Falls http://www.extremetourscochrane.com/Sledtours/images/newpostfalls1.jpg

I gonna rent a Yammi RS Rage and that one should handle powder quite well I think. And the fuelmilage should be great sience its a 4-stroker. About the powerline: As far as I understand it starts in Smooth rocks falls and stretching towards Fraserdale, but where where do it end up in north? Around Otter rapids? Maybe even at Coral Rapids?

Originally posted by unisoldier@Dec 9 2004, 01:56 AM I gonna rent a Yammi RS Rage and that one should handle powder quite well I think. And the fuelmilage should be great sience its a 4-stroker. About the powerline: As far as I understand it starts in Smooth rocks falls and stretching towards Fraserdale, but where where do it end up in north? Around Otter rapids? Maybe even at Coral Rapids? 373042 I don't know for sure were the power lines end as I've never ventured much past Fraserdale on my sled. I think that Otter Rapids is the first/last generator site on that grid but don't know for sure. I have a friend that works as a fire fighter up there and I'll check his Topographic map of the area at X-Mas when I'm there. His map has more detail added than a regular topo map.

Don't know if I've mentioned this guy's link. He offers some sweet off trail guided tours for $55 a head. If nothing else check out the vidio's he's got on the site. extremetours (http://www.extremetourscochrane.com)

Originally posted by Fraz@Dec 8 2004, 11:36 AM One of the high lights of this run was crossing a big tressel. (not on the OFSC trail) Great ride. Holy :cussing: :!: & I thought the 2 bridges between Calstock & Bambino's on TOP A were high.

How about a ride to the Shania Twain center in Timmins and or the Post 392 for one of their 10 course suppers.

* How about a ride to the Shania Twain center in Timmins and or the Post 392 for one of their 10 course suppers. I would be into a ride to Post 392 for a monster meal. How far of a trip is it to Lillabelles and back on that one fraz. Depending on distance I guess would determine the size of the loop we doo. Perm

It's 60 miles Cochrane to Timmins & according to Post 392's website another 25/30 miles roughly.

Originally posted by revrnd@Jan 6 2005, 11:40 PM It's 60 miles Cochrane to Timmins & according to Post 392's website another 25/30 miles roughly. 385537 Yup. About 150km. each way on the A106C to the "C" trail. Dahmer might now a short cut to the "A111C" in Connaught. Did it last week but wouldn't remember the turns. That ride had some revenge in it as we went down the ATV trail for a bit. LOL

Originally posted by ONTHINICE@Jan 25 2005, 01:10 AM Fraz........that bridge looks really scary http://www.geocities.com/onthinlce/D_02BA_126.GIF* For those of us that are 'vertically' challanged is there alternative routes? 393537 There was a one track trail going down across the river. It's not that bad if you don't look down. LOL You can save face by telling the others you just want to take a pic from the ice looking up.

I just wanted to bring this thread back to life ..... any updates? I'm only assuming (from reading allot of posts on the topic) that the busiest part of the week will be the 3rd 4th and 5th. What about a "general" type get together at Lillabelles on Thursday the 3rd, after dinner, in the bar, to arrange some choices of group rides to the different locations? Thoughts?

They have a Bar?

Originally posted by sawman@Feb 7 2005, 07:02 PM They have a Bar? 399327 Yes it does ..... and this time if you'd be kind enough to leave some for the rest of us ..... :D

Seriously MikeD this is a very good Idea you have here about planning trips. We should write it down so we remember in the morning. :lol:

Hey! Ive been thinking about this planning trips. From what Ive heard - and snowcover maps also clearly shows - theres areas where we can expect to find little snow. There´s over 2 weeks to go on to wait for the real dump, but it could be the other way around. Do some of u locals know how the trails looks like now? Are some of them even closed? Looks like the snow southeast of Cochrane is barely covering the ground. Is that so? Im gonna pick up my sled at Speedys in KL, in that area, so I really hope the trails are open 4 buisness in that area. Anyway - stay in touch and let the exitement start to grow! :christmas:

Don't worry Uni ..... the trails are fine. The low snow is just around the towns. From Kirkland Lake North is all good. I'm hoping they get a little more snow in New Liskeard, if not, I'll be booking in to K.L. as well. That sure would make meeting up with you allot easier!! Keep in touch!! Michael

Originally posted by sawman@Feb 7 2005, 07:02 PM They have a Bar? 399327 Did you want a room closer to the bar door or just sleep in the hot tub room so you don't have to run up and down the stairs. Is your sister in law coming with you's? Don't worry it will be well stocked and great to be able to see you's again.

Here is a pic from Kirkland Lake taken Feb.10,05 [attachmentid=18646]

Hey Kim. Make sure you've got my favorite stocked. I'll be there 2 weeks from today. We'll try to stop by after supper for a night cap.

Originally posted by Fraz@Feb 11 2005, 06:49 PM Hey Kim. Make sure you've got my favorite stocked. I'll be there 2 weeks from today. We'll try to stop by after supper for a night cap. 401005 Don't worry about that, we are suppose to have about 35 guys staying for the weekend so drop in and say hi!! Did you want to reserve the hot tub for yourself early?

Where can I buy an OFC trail permit? I'd like to support the local club if possible.

Thumbdoctor, we will make sure there are some permits at the hotel :) Here is the weather link to Cochrane , Cochrane weather (http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/city/pages/on-33_metric_e.html)

Hi. Something that would be a great support when planning trips is a Distance chart. There is several of thoose on the net but this one is probably the best one Ive seen so far. http://www.nlmotel.com/revrnd.htm Knock yourself out! :) If u still would miss any distances u might find some additional here: http://www.cramadog.com/distance_calculations.htm Cya around in 10 days or so :cool:

Mo's removed that page. Just click Trail Mileages (http://www.decassoc.net/tmsc/trail_distances_2005.html) How far is New Post Falls off A103? That looks like a neat spot to check out.

Originally posted by revrnd@Feb 24 2005, 10:45 PM Mo's removed that page. Just click How far is New Post Falls off A103? That looks like a neat spot to check out. 405474 I DEFINITELY want to see that ......

Originally posted by revrnd@Feb 24 2005, 09:45 PM Mo's removed that page. Just click Trail Mileages (http://www.decassoc.net/tmsc/trail_distances_2005.html) How far is New Post Falls off A103? That looks like a neat spot to check out. 405474 Damned strange. I swear it worked the other day. Seams like I have to whip Mo´s ### up! lol Ya, I heard about New post falls. Waterfall right. As far as I understand there is several spots up in that area with impressive waterfalls.

Hello Everyone, I just realized you all are going to be in town next week. I'm not going to be too busy around this time, and I would love to help out with logistics in any way I can. If anyone here has any questions or special requirements just let me know. Oh and also I would be interested in sponsoring an ice fishing day trip on Abitibi lake. It is my specialty. I could take 20 people on a warm day and 10 on a cold day. You can even ride your sled there using the trail too Lorraine Quebec, I would be happy to bring in extra gas. Contact Craig 705-272-5683 if there is any interest.