funny how the photos happen to be the same ones in the garage.

Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7114319262&fromMakeTrack=true)

krellheat's joker (http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forum/index.php?act=garage&CODE=12&CID=190)

Oh-yeah. the sled is not for sale.

Originally posted by krellheat@Nov 15 2004, 11:02 PM
Oh-yeah.* the sled is not for sale.
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Report it to ebay...I would hate to see someone get screwed out of their money.

I reported to Ebay three times (each a different but similar category of fraud).

Must me by five minutes of fame at the cost of some poor slob loosing his money.

this scam was a large problem last year..... pictures were being taken offline and people were posting them on ebay for very cheap... like 04 F7 EFI buy it now for $3500.00 then when you would click buy it now the "seller" would send you a letter saying that the machine had to be shipped from over seas or something like that... he would tell you to send a check to a PO box.... the surprising thing is that some people actually did this.... make sure that if you do see your sled on ebay you write to them ASAP... i know it takes about 24 hours for them to get it off but at least they will end the auction.... you can also send an e-mail to the high bidder and explain the story... good luck

I did send Ebay three notices last night (Nov 15th). I thought about contacting the bidders but looking at the list, it appears that the scam is also to run up the bid price and then hit some unfortunate sledder.

Maybe Wednesday it will be take off.

I also reported it and sent the "seller" a nice little email. If enough people report it maybe ebay will actually do something about it. As PB mentioned, this was a big problem last year too.

its just amazing what people will tyr to do these days :crazy:

It is still up. I sent the seller an email but has not responded. I contacted Ebay directly to the customer service dept. No results. Obvious Ebay is letting this scam go through.

I emailed the bidders earlier today and the high bidder as well. It looks like certain bidders are trying to run up the price before the close of the bid. Ebay gets its commission on the ending price upfront. So it is in their benefit to keep the auction open yet not take responsibility of helping some dirtball screw an unsuspecting bidder.

FYI: Ebay finally shutdown the scam.

Darn it! I was going to bid on it today!

Originally posted by zr580cat@Nov 17 2004, 12:53 PM
Darn it! I was going to bid on it today!
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Here is his email: snowboardingxxx@yahoo.com

Feel free to send him some questions--when was the last time the exhaust bearing fluid was changed, and how much does it take for a complete refill. And what kind of ski wax to use on the skiis.

I remember this topic on here last year,,,, there were all kinds of sleds being put on ebay and they were all scams.... just to think, the season is just upon us,,, so the scams will start hitting again. I sent different emails last year acting like I was really interested and made offers to buy it now,,,, just had fun with the a$$holes,,,,

by the way Krell, I won the bid on your sled,,, cant wait for you to send it my way LOL

seriously, glad you got it taken off ebay,,,

Will a picture do? I took a couple this past weekend from the mini snow storm (4 inches of snow) that we got friday night.

I am sure there will be more scam on ebay. Hopefully we never fall for them.

Get a load of this! The schmuck actually sent me a reply.lol

"From : W m <snowboardingxxx@yahoo.com>
Sent : Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:12 AM
To : tort21@hotmail.com
Subject : Re: Question for item #7114319262 - L@@K!!~~2005 Arctic Cat F7 FIRECAT EFI~~L@@K!!

| | Junk E-Mail | Inbox




Hi,
Sir yes i have vin# but i can t give you because lots of scammer ask about the VIN# and make scams with my VIN#,i don t say that you are a scammer but i can t trust in enybody.I don t need any insurance i must be sure that you are a serious buyer

tort21@hotmail.com wrote:

Question about your item



Dear snowboardingxxx,

Whats the VIN number? Oh, you don&#39;t know....cuz it&#39;s NOT YOUR SLED! Nice try idiot! Consider this reported...

Please respond to the question on eBay by clicking the button below. You&#39;ll have the option to display your response directly on the listing.






Item # Item Title Listing end date

7114319262 L@@K!!~~2005 Arctic Cat F7 FIRECAT EFI~~L@@K!! Nov-17-04 "

and to think that these idiots are getting away with selling sleds every year on ebay and not getting caught,,,,,,, how does one live with theirself after doing something like that???

i just emailed that little ebay scammer. i asked him if i could purchase the sled that he had on ebay. im waiting for a reply. i&#39;ll keep ya posted until then

Originally posted by krellheat@Nov 16 2004, 07:47 PM
I emailed the bidders earlier today and the high bidder as well.* It looks like certain bidders are trying to run up the price before the close of the bid.* Ebay gets its commission on the ending price upfront.* So it is in their benefit to keep the auction open yet not take responsibility of helping some dirtball screw an unsuspecting bidder.
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Ebay does agood job of policing the site. They have little advantage to leaving that auction open, because they don&#39;t make a percentage commission off the ending price, but rather just a straight fee in the Powersports category sale.

Last night I saw this Mountain CAt for sale that was an obvious scam. I was browsing thru all the sled, and found the IDENTICAL sled for sale from the real owner. Why would you be so stupid to put up the scam at the same time as the legit auction?
Ebay had removed the scam, and two others by the same person, a few hours after I had seen it.

Originally posted by puree@Nov 17 2004, 02:30 PM
.....by the way Krell, I won the bid on your sled,,, cant wait for you to send it my way* LOL

seriously, glad you got it taken off ebay,,,
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Here is your picture--send picture of money--preferably small bills. :lmao:

Snow not included.

hey this is what the guy wrote back to me


HI.
yes is possibly but i live in Italy.
reply asap
be a serious

e <enticerdeluxe@yahoo.com> wrote:
i was wondering if i could possibly purchase the sled you had on ebay.

what a dumb @$$ this guy is:lmao: how stupid

im gunna ask him if i could send him a check and where to. i bet its a po box

Ask him about the trails in Italy. I bet he is no where near any snow. There is snow on the Swiss border.

Ok,,, now I expect my sled to be delivered in a few days as I got payment to you in no time!!!!!

Originally posted by puree@Nov 18 2004, 11:37 PM
Ok,,, now I expect my sled to be delivered in a few days as I got payment to you in no time!!!!!
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Thanks--the sled is in the mail.

i&#39;ll send ya my sled soon as i figure out how to send it in a envelope lol

Hey Krell,,,, can I get me a tracking number on that????

Originally posted by puree@Nov 19 2004, 03:32 PM
Hey Krell,,,, can I get me a tracking number on that????
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Oh so sorry--no tracking number available. We ship by private courier.

Look for a white van.

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Originally posted by rjp1795@Nov 19 2004, 01:34 PM
i&#39;ll send ya my sled soon as i figure out how to send it in a envelope lol
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just email it to him

ok,,, I will be waiting on the front porch for the little white "private carrier" van,,,, I will let you know when it arrives,,,, been a pleasure doing business with ya!!!!

Don&#39;t forget to leave me a positive feedback :D

will do,,,, as soon as it arrives,,,, please do the same with my super fast pay!!!!

whats your email it to you. in the mean time i want $1,000,000 in unmarked bills. i want them all in $1 bills. i hope you can pay or i will leave negative feedback lol :tongue:

Buying on ebay is not difficult nor dangerous.

I purchased my sled on ebay. Do a little research on the seller, the sled, and the transaction process. It took me about a month to find a sled that met all of my requirements.

However, I know of the scams and of course there is always someone ready to scam you.

i do argree it really depends on what kind of feedback the seller has. if there a new seller try and email them first. get to know them.
were selling something on ebay right now. its under beaver taxidermy and look for the title pedestal beaver taxidermy. sure it may say were a new seller but were really not. some one got into our account and bought a whole bunch of things and didnt pay. the result was negative feed back and our account was susspended.

if your into taxidermy bid on our item were not gunna scam you. plus it was done by us and weve had over 40 yrs experience

ebay can be safe,,,, I have a store and sell through there all the time,,, I have had no problems thus far,,,

you can look into the sled your after all you want,,, you cant always trust the feedback number as people are stealing passwords and then using other people accounts,,,then when you email the person, I have no clue how, but they are able to grab the email before the real person can and they respond,,, you may think you are dealing with "goodsled20" out in Denver Colorado,,, but you actually could be dealing with badguy1 in Clevland Ohio and he is just waiting for you to pay,,,, they get a couple of sleds through then dump everything they got with the user ids and start over,,,,

I personally wouldnt buy a sled off ebay unless I could drive and see it,,,,

I was starting to suspect the scammers were stealing IDs. I couldn&#39;t figure why a nice lady in vermont with a long ebay history and good feedback rating would suddenly post 3 scam sled auctions.

it just shows that there is scum out there in this world :bash:

I have never and will never use ebay. They don&#39;t give 2 poops what goes on. Ebay scams are posted daily if you search a variety of forums. Ebay is joke if you ask me, a haven for theifs to offload stolen goods, wtf do you think there are so many great deals??? Guy just gets&#39;em cheap right? LMAO

actually that may happen, but there are also many people on ebay who sell good merchandise,,, but they dont have the huge markup that you have in the store down the road because we dont have all the overhead costs. I have a my own store, I have over 2000 auctions running right now and I have NEVER sold one piece of stolen merchandise. Everything I sell is new in the box and I beat the friendly neighborhood store because I dont have all the costs they do in running their store.
I am not against the friendly little store, just decided to go the ebay way instead as I dont have near as much to loose,,,,,

Originally posted by puree@Nov 22 2004, 08:55 AM
actually that may happen, but there are also many people on ebay who sell good merchandise,,, but they dont have the huge markup that you have in the store down the road because we dont have all the overhead costs.* I have a my own store, I have over 2000 auctions running right now and I have NEVER sold one piece of stolen merchandise.* Everything I sell is new in the box and I beat the friendly neighborhood store because I dont have all the costs they do in running their store.*
I am not against the friendly little store, just decided to go the ebay way instead as I dont have near as much to loose,,,,,
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I agree with Puree, I sell stuff on there too, mainly ATV parts, but some tools as well. I am an honest guy, you just have to be careful. I found my sled on Ebay actaully. I drove to pick it up and paid cash, but I first saw it in an auction. Worked out great for me, me and my girlfriend had a nice day long trip to IN. and the seller came from IL, we met sorta in the middle, it was actually a really fun day. I would be learly of buying any motor vehicle without seeign it first, but I did buy a Vmax Motor, complete, and had that shipped (granted there was a few small issues)