I started this thread for realistic Rumor Mill style information. Its about that time of year when Arctic Cat should be letting loose some info about a late release new sled.

Over the past few years we have seen big innovations such as the Firecat Introduction in 2003, The Turbo Introduction in 2004, and the Direct or Diamond drive.... so Whats Next? Thanks guys

Too easy. 1000cc (or better) 4 stroke in a 'lightweight' chassis for the single-rider touring crowd (you know, the 30+ guys like me). GSXR1000 motor seems to be the rumour of choice, but what do I know....??

1000cc twin 2 cycle, in the ZR chassis. :)

Originally posted by The Hossman@Dec 1 2004, 01:17 AM
Too easy.* 1000cc (or better) 4 stroke in a 'lightweight' chassis for the single-rider touring crowd (you know, the 30+ guys like me).* GSXR1000 motor seems to be the rumour of choice, but what do I know....??
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One can only Hope. :thumbsup:

The dealer meeting is the 4 days prior to their "Snow Blast" March 11. The Snow Blast is in Yellowstone. Are 2 strokes allowed in YS anymore?

I can't imagine they'll abandon the new F series engines as it had to be a huge investment, but it is interesting that they're rolling out the new models in a place where (I think) only 4 strokes are allowed to operate.

Originally posted by Beerman@Dec 1 2004, 12:07 PM
The dealer meeting is the 4 days prior to their "Snow Blast" March 11.* The Snow Blast is in Yellowstone.* Are 2 strokes allowed in YS anymore?

I can't imagine they'll abandon the new F series engines as it had to be a huge investment, but it is interesting that they're rolling out the new models in a place where (I think) only 4 strokes are allowed to operate.
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:whistling: SWRules :crazy:

Originally posted by ZR84EVR@Dec 1 2004, 12:39 PM
:whistling:* SWRules* :crazy:
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My vote would be an M7 (15" track) style sled with an F8 motor (already in racing) set up for performance trail, that's with the float shocks, sway bar, wide stance, 160hp (for doo conquering) and all the titanium parts (King Cat style). :D

Originally posted by The Hossman@Dec 1 2004, 01:17 AM
Too easy.* 1000cc (or better) 4 stroke in a 'lightweight' chassis for the single-rider touring crowd (you know, the 30+ guys like me).* GSXR1000 motor seems to be the rumour of choice, but what do I know....??
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I like the "or better" aspects of what Suzuki has in their arsenal. Why not adapt the Hayabusa mill?

Originally posted by Ken F@Dec 1 2004, 02:29 PM
I like the "or better" aspects of what Suzuki has in their arsenal. Why not adapt the Hayabusa mill?
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:withstupid: That would be a baaaaaad ### sled. :devil:

i'd say electronic reverse would be next

Originally posted by tunedbyear@Dec 1 2004, 11:23 PM
i'd say electronic reverse would be next
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thats my vote or at least hope

I'm still hoping for something in the 1000cc plus range...twin or 4 stroke as long as they get the performance out of the 4. Something to put the smack down on the new mach and have it in the F-chassi. Not a rumor, just my dream. ;)

Originally posted by PowderBoy@Nov 30 2004, 10:27 PM
I started this thread for realistic Rumor Mill style information. Its about that time of year when Arctic Cat should be letting loose some info about a late release new sled.

Over the past few years we have seen big innovations such as the Firecat Introduction in 2003, The Turbo Introduction in 2004, and the Direct or Diamond drive.... so Whats Next? Thanks guys
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When I was at the factory a few weeks ago, we went by the R&D dept. Couldn't go in but I did ask when could I pick my new F8? They just smiled, and the subject changed. I can see going to the M style hood on the f-cats. :christmas:

they'll tell you when you can pick up your F10

I hope they make something in the 250 cc range. Did anyone go to their website a few months back and take the questionaire that they had. Sounded like they were thinking about targeting a middle age group- too big for the 120, but too small for a 440.

Now that I have a son(3 1/2 mo old) I have to start saving up for his new sled. He already has a 1972 Cheetah that is in mint condition. He needs something with a little more kick!


Keep your eye open for the 3/4 size sled.

That's my $.02

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F9...bottom line im sure it is coming... zr 900 in the f chassis...guaranteed to rip

Reverse with their new drive system would be nice. I can't believe how the magazines are letting this slide. Giving the M7 rave reviews because of it's light weight is so misleading because who's going to buy a mountain machine with no reverse? A short track you can get away with forward only, but a long track? NO THANK YOU!!

IF your in the powder what are you going to do with reverse? i know what you can do with it :p

Originally posted by PowderBoy@Dec 4 2004, 12:43 AM
IF your in the powder what are you going to do with reverse? i know what you can do with it :p
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Obviously you've never owned, or ridden with anybody who's owned, a mountain sled with reverse, or without reverse for that matter.

I think I have to agree witht the electric reverse. I know of a few people who are going polaris just to have that option. G

there not that heavy to move around but if you are legitemately stuck in powder, reverse is going to do nothing for you... everytime ive gotten stuck in it you just need to start diggin.

Well obviously if you're stuck you're stuck, and you're not going to be able to back up. THe trick is to back up before you get stuck.
Mountain sleds are typically used for playing around more than short-tracks, and that means exploring off the beaten path. Ever pull up to a ledge and decide that it's too big to drop off? Or that you're not in the right place and there are trees below you? Throw it in reverse. On the tops of the hills the snow is packed much harder because of the wind, and it's easy to back up.

As with any sled, it is possible to pick up the rear end and turn the thing around. The extra length and hieght makes it a challenge though, and if you add in the fact that you'll be sinking 6-12 inches in the snow, and that you have to lift the entire track above the powder or it builds up and makes it impossible to swing the thing.

Of course there will be situations when you won't be able to back up. If the snow is too soft or too deep, if it's a steep incline, or if there are trees or branches for your skis to get snagged on you'll never get the machine to back up enough to make a difference. But that certainly doens't mean that you should want to through it around by hand all the time.

I had my SKS for almost a month with no reverse on it, and it was pure torture. If I had a short track and Electronic reverse was not available then I wouldn't have reverse on my machine. It's not worth the hassels with the chain case. But with a long track it is an absolute necessity, and I would never consider owning a mountain machine that didn't have reverse on it.

I heard a 1050cc laydown engine , M chasis with 170hp....

From what I have seen in a few Magazines, Diamond Drive says the workings for reverse are there... that it's just a matter of time. But I agree... AC needs to beg borrow or steal the RER/PERC style of rewind for the green machine!

New chassis with more of a rider fwd configuration.. its coming folks!!!

I have to say that they have to go with the REV style sled. I am an AC all the way guy but I ride my buddies REV BM last year it they ride awsome.

Reverse is the only way to go with any sled. But with a long track it is a must. I can power lift more than anyone I know, but when you step off the sled and you sink up to your knees in snow it is a back-breaking event just to get the thing turned around. I have both a long track and short with both having reverse. It makes your time on the snow much more enjoyable. Backing the sled into the garage "AWESOME"

:p
I think it will be the resurrection of the bigger and badder THUNDERCAT!!!!
They were always know to have the biggest/fastest sled out there.

i heard that arctic cat is trying to trade ski doo the Diamond drive for the RER usage....who nos but its definitely an m7 styled ridding of a sled with 15 inch track and big motor....cant wait for the early release sled this year in jan

no, skidoo wanted to trade cat the rer for the diamond drive but cat said no cause in a year or so it would be useless to them.

I heard from a dealer that there is a firecat 1000 coming

Originally posted by RDN_POLARIS@Jan 6 2005, 01:12 PM
I heard from a dealer that there is a firecat 1000 coming
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heard today from a reliable guy that it's should be a f-9 and m-9 finally...even heard that the m-9 could be a mid-season release about 1 month to come?? :!:

Why dont you cheak out the AC website, They have a new CrossFire like a Renagade/Switchback

Last night a friend of mine said he heard from a reliable source that there is a real good chance of a 4 stroke with the Hyabusa motor. I believe that is a 1300 cc.
Just another rumor. Who Knows?

Well here's some good news! Next year there will be reverse available for the Diamond Drive Cats, and it will be able to retro-fit older Cats as well. It will be a mechanical reverse, not electronic, but Reverse is Reverse! and this is great news as now Arctic Cat will be a viable choice of sled for all those people like me that must have reverse.

Originally posted by NewfieBullet@Jan 12 2005, 03:34 PM
Well here's some good news! Next year there will be reverse available for the Diamond Drive Cats, and it will be able to retro-fit older Cats as well. It will be a mechanical reverse, not electronic, but Reverse is Reverse! and this is great news as now Arctic Cat will be a viable choice of sled for all those people like me that must have reverse.
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My dealer (Capes performance) mentioned something about an electronic servo controlled reverse system for DD. Anybody else hear this???Incidently,I would have bought an f6 if it would of had elect. reverse but ended up with 600 revsdi absolutely NO REGRETS after 200 miles.

Modified 800cc twin Sno Pro. 180hp. w00t

Unless Arctic Cat comes out with something to compete with the new RX-1 Apex (http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=50580) I wont even bother going to the Arctic Cat dealer when it comes time for a new sled (and that time is rapidly approaching).

I've been on my friends RX-1 and the torque is just stupid. Who cares how heavy it is (and the Apex is now another 15 lbs lighter than an '05 RX-1) with that power and reliablity. My friend has put 4700 kms on his RX-1 this year with no problems. My master cylinder went out yesterday (wee no brakes) and the bearings in the chain case are leaking oil all over the place... woohoo I get to work on my sled, again!

Originally posted by GregZR500@Feb 3 2005, 10:39 AM
* Who cares how heavy it is (and the Apex is now another 15 lbs lighter than an '05 RX-1) 397814

Who cares? I do!
And Yippee! A whole 15 pounds lighter then an RX-1. That means it weighs 635lbs ready to ride.
I followed your link though, and couldn't find any Apex. Just the '05's.

So the 06 Yammi's are out, when do we see some pics of the Cats!! Can't wait till the end of Feb!!
I still think they will have reverse on the DD, maybe a 15" wide track on all FCats, the engines are powerful enough to pull the added weight... I see the FCat going to the M series hood and bell pans as well.

Time will tell!

Originally posted by NewfieBullet@Feb 3 2005, 06:58 PM
Who cares? I do!
And Yippee! A whole 15 pounds lighter then an RX-1. That means it weighs 635lbs ready to ride.
I followed your link though, and couldn't find any Apex. Just the '05's.
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Dry Weight 244 kb (539 lbs) (http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/products.php?model=492&section=td&group=S&PHPSESSID=c249a4ea4b263279c2237522f660f80c#content Top)

Originally posted by Brother D@Dec 2 2004, 01:34 PM
I hope they make something in the 250 cc range.* Did anyone go to their website a few months back and take the questionaire that they had.* Sounded like they were thinking about targeting a middle age group- too big for the 120, but too small for a 440.

Now that I have a son(3 1/2 mo old) I have to start saving up for his new sled.* He already has a 1972 Cheetah that is in mint condition.* He needs something with a little more kick!
Keep your eye open for the 3/4 size sled.

That's my $.02

D
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has anyone tryed out the new crossfire coming out??

I heard somewhere that they will be done with the 13.5" narrow track experiment and that most of the sleds will be using the new Crossfire/M chasis? Anyone else heard this? Will there be no more Firecat and Sabercat, or will they just change the sled and not the name??? :huh:

The guys at Maximum Sled know as they just got back from a trip to TRF, but they aren't talking. :bash:

When is the release date for the new cats?
Things seem to be pretty quiet as compared to years past. Or is it just me?

Stopped by the dealer yesterday (sells Cat and Yammi) and he said Cat doesn't have anything exciting in the 06 lineup. Now he personally rides Yammis, so I wouldn't expect him to have as much enthusiasm about Cat's lineup, but I think he would let me know if they had a nice 4-stroke or something besides a 700cc coming out. He's been trying to get me to cross the line to Yammi for years, unsuccessfully. But I think this coming year it will happen if Cat doesn't show me something soon.

Originally posted by JIM FRITCH@Feb 12 2005, 11:50 AM
Stopped by the dealer yesterday (sells Cat and Yammi) and he said Cat doesn't have anything exciting in the 06 lineup.* Now he personally rides Yammis, so I wouldn't expect him to have as much enthusiasm about Cat's lineup, but I think he would let me know if they had a nice 4-stroke or something* besides a 700cc coming out.* He's been trying to get me to cross the line to Yammi for years, unsuccessfully.* But I think this coming year it will happen if Cat doesn't show me something soon.
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i heard a turbo charged 2 stoke in the f chassis and a turbo charged 1300 cc 4 stroke. :devil:

Originally posted by 2005 GREEN ZR 900 EFI@Feb 13 2005, 12:25 AM
i heard a turbo charged 2 stoke in the f chassis and a turbo charged 1300 cc 4 stroke. :devil:
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If your info is correct, I hope they announce it before the first week of April....that's the deadline to snocheck the new Yamaha's. I can't believe Cat would wait much longer to unleash a hi-perf 4 stroke.

Originally posted by 2005 GREEN ZR 900 EFI@Feb 13 2005, 01:25 AM
i heard a turbo charged 2 stoke in the f chassis and a turbo charged 1300 cc 4 stroke. :devil:
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A boosted busa engine would make 250 hp easy. It'll never happen, it'd be un-insurable for most people. Hopefully Cat will do something cool, but it'll be up to the after-market to make that kind of power.

well i just got off hardcoresledder.com and theirs a guy on their that posted something about the 06's he rides with arcticcat or something like that he finds out what the new sleds are things like that he sweared not to tell but gave a little hint he never said what size she will be or even if its a new firecat, zr or even a crossfire he just said think of "FURY" he said most of you will be pleased and we wont get what we really want till 07 or even what im saying now is just a rumor and the guys maybe just playing around with us but lets hope hes telling the truth. :thumbsup: :D SWRules

A turbo 2 stroke from the factory?! That would be interesting...but very unlikely...

Hopefully a bigger engine in the Mseries sled, reverse would be nice if you don't need to add the weight of a battery and all that junk if not they can keep it i'm still young. I can't imagine that they will ditch the fcat yet but maybe they've got there money out of it. I'm positive the king cat will be retired maybe even the z570 for a laydown fan. Not sure if cat will play in yammis big 4 stroke market yet or not. Should have peaked inside that cat tent i saw outside of theif river in a abandoned farm on sunday. I think the release show is the last week of Feb or first week of March in west yellowstone and you can ride 2 strokes outside the park. Dealer was saying something about early order isn't tell fall though anyone hear this also.

I was talking with a dealer the other day and asked him what the story on an F-9, M-9 was for next year. Said he was at AC last week and saw two 900 prototypes. One looked like it had caught fire and the other didn't look much better. I asked him about an F8, M-8 and he said he couldn't say nothing about it and that we'd have to wait a week or two.

I wouldn't put any money on any of this, just passing along a rummor.

"I WANT MY NEW MACH KILLER NOW" kicking-stomping-whinning!!!!
:cussing: :bash: :cussing: :bash: :cussing: :bash:

Just looked at a Crossfire at my dealer, sweet Orange!!! He said he's been told the F-cats will survive, and he expects a C5 and C6. At this point though they're still in the dark!! He's also unsure of the Reverse Issue, but KNOWS they're losing sales because of it.

Originally posted by Beerman@Dec 1 2004, 10:07 AM
The dealer meeting is the 4 days prior to their "Snow Blast" March 11.* The Snow Blast is in Yellowstone.* Are 2 strokes allowed in YS anymore?

I can't imagine they'll abandon the new F series engines as it had to be a huge investment, but it is interesting that they're rolling out the new models in a place where (I think) only 4 strokes are allowed to operate.
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Yo its in WEST Yellowstone and sleds are allowed their. FYI

Originally posted by pittass24@Feb 25 2005, 08:24 AM
Just looked at a Crossfire at my dealer, sweet Orange!!!* He said he's been told the F-cats will survive, and he expects a C5 and C6.* At this point though they're still in the dark!!* He's also unsure of the Reverse Issue, but KNOWS they're losing sales because of it.
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Your dealer may have to eat his hat. ALL indications are that the F-cats are history. I'll bet a 5-spot that they are gone, except for leftover builds/units. Although they may let the S/cats live on for a couple years, like the ZL's did after the ZR's started to disappear. The motors will continue to be used in the M chassis. I just don't know what they're doing about a hi-perf 4-stroker and it's driving me friggen nuts....SHOW IT TO US ALREADY!!!!!! Whatever they're doing with them, I hope it's not just a "band-aid" sled to have an offering, but a true contender. I would love to stay on Cat's suspension if possible.

Oh man I hope this year wont be like last year for cat!!! I dont want 4strokes they are for people who want cruisers not ditch bangers!!!

Originally posted by cat-rider@Mar 1 2005, 11:53 AM
Oh man I hope this year wont be like last year for cat!!!* I dont want 4strokes they are for people who want cruisers not ditch bangers!!!
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Some day you will also eat your words! :lmao:

Did ear about a new touring chassi. Maybe this supposed chassi will replaces the F serie too...who knows.

The website is changing by the min. I can't stand it any longer.
They need to release them soon.

Man was this a horse $HIT year. I am stickin with my cat do to $$$. I really want that 550 doo but oh well Im just gonna put new skis on mine and make it be the best cat in the fan class.

i'm guessing a F8 or F9. they got to get rid of those Zr's that body is over ten yrs old.

get rid of the zr :crazy: why, because it kicks the f bodys ### in the trails. when cat makes a sled to catch my t-cat on the trails, i just mite buy one.

I heard about an F9 also, to replace the zr

Originally posted by no_friends_in_powder@Jun 1 2005, 08:16 AM
I heard about an F9 also, to replace the zr
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I talked with a dealer in michigan yesturday. I was looking for a good deal ona left over (4700+tax on a new 03 zl 800 ss) and he told me cat paid a engine maker big money to not put out a 1000 for the firecat. He said it would be a nov/dec release in crossfire but with a shorter track option. Anyway, ado you think the 800 is a good deal?

Originally posted by ZRWOLF@Sep 1 2005, 09:02 PM
I talked with a dealer in michigan yesturday.* I was looking for a good deal ona left over (4700+tax on a new 03 zl 800 ss) and he told me cat paid a engine maker big money to not put out a 1000 for the firecat.* He said it would be a nov/dec release in crossfire but with a shorter track option.* Anyway, ado you think the 800 is a good deal?
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I think that's a really good deal on that sled, if it's Brand new and not a demo

Originally posted by ZR84EVR@Sep 2 2005, 08:55 AM
I think that's a really good deal on that sled, if it's Brand new and not a demo
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Brand new, also have 03 600 ss for 4200

I bought the 600 from them last year for the price there asking for the 800 now. I want to move into the 800 now!! Great sled, go for it. I'm thinking about getting one for the wife.

i say bring back the el tigre but with a 600 or 700

Obviously, CAT gonna want to run with the big boys...even though the F7 follows most of them :hallo1:
For 2007, I see a 900 in the M chassis in short and long track, it'll have about 170 HP and weigh about 500lbs :devil:
In other words, BLOW THE S**T OUT OF EVERYBODY ELSE :p !!!!!!!!!

And that's my 5 cents...

Later,
Steph

I seem to remember a Cat dealer saying there are coming out with an F9 that will blow any sled away. I guess we will see

Bullet

A gixer 1000 motor would be KEY.I personally am impartial to the gixer 750.Strap on a turbo and look out world!!!! :thumbsup: The 750 is lighter and just dominates.I am really liking the sounds of this,I would buy either in a second,hey if yamamahaha is using the four stroke motors why can't we?After all All is fair in love and war.... :thumbsup:

Waiting for the laydown engine in a 15x121 inch tracked sled. Zr style handling with new technology.

I'm waiting on a rider forward 13.5x128 similar to the racer. I LOVE the narrow tunnel.

By next week we will see a new thundercat 1050 cc twin !

By next week we will see a new thundercat 1050 cc twin !
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Anything to back that up? Or is that just what you would like to see.

My buddy called me last night to ask if i wanted to bid on his f7 i said why ? He said he's trading it in at a local dealer for a 20061/2 thundercat twin 1050cc. The dealer is only getting 3 machines for this season. This guy doesnt joke around!
So by next week or two we should all hear news on this new cat with pics as well.
I also went on a french site here in quebec and some have said their were new model arctic cats being tested out in Mont Valin last weekend.

Here comes that new Lotus engine!!! Did this friend say if it was a 2 or 4 stroker? Their next big release is supposed to be a hi-perf 4-stroke, but all I've read about this new Lotus engine says it's a 2 stroke :dazed: If it's a "normal" 2 stroke, I'll wait for their next release or switch to team blue next year.

Here comes that new Lotus engine!!! Did this friend say if it was a 2 or 4 stroker? Their next big release is supposed to be a hi-perf 4-stroke, but all I've read about this new Lotus engine says it's a 2 stroke :dazed: If it's a "normal" 2 stroke, I'll wait for their next release or switch to team blue next year.
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Its a two stroke ! Look at bombardier their 600 ho sdi is great on gas and burns very lillte oil so why not cat two stroke !

I have no experience with Doo's SDI's. What I'm looking for is that smoothness of the old triples. Yammis new sleds are the only ones on the market IMO that provide that same feeling. Not to mention all the normal reasons, adding oil, smell/smoke, etc. If this new 2 stroke can provide all that, cool. I will just have to wait and see what this new package has to offer.

MAN! I hope your right. Not saying I'm purchasing right away. But that would be sweet.

After just visiting the AC Site, I'm guessing that we aren't going to hear anything till after the first of the year though. They have that end of the year Sale blowout on ZR 900's and Kingcats. Up to 1700 off. It all makes sense.

The dealers are really trying to send the sleds out the door....I heard a lot of internet chatter about a twin turbo four stroke, personally I'd rather see the 1050cc two stroke, but thats just me. The suspence is evil

after riding my 660 turbo i think a twin turbo would be insane w00t. after riding a 4 stroke last year i will never go back to 2 JMO. there going to have to do something soon though because the Firecat is wearing off IMO (dont shoot) and the t660 has gotten all the pubilicity its going to get. i think its time for the return of the wildcat! being as this sled (if it comes out) will be a 1050 it should be called the wildcat in honor of the 88 650. JMO

The wildcat was a great sled. I love the Firecats, I think their great. They still smoke most of the sleds on the flats, so in that respect their still pretty popular, but it is time for a new sled.

I started this thread for realistic Rumor Mill style information. Its about that time of year when Arctic Cat should be letting loose some info about a late release new sled.

Over the past few years we have seen big innovations such as the Firecat Introduction in 2003, The Turbo Introduction in 2004, and the Direct or Diamond drive.... so Whats Next? Thanks guys
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1500 cc 4-stroker coming in june 07, won't be announced in the early orders. So hang tight. Got a good friend in R&D who likes to drink and talk.

1500 cc 4-stroker coming in june 07, won't be announced in the early orders. So hang tight. Got a good friend in R&D who likes to drink and talk.
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1500cc's????? You got the drinking part right! :lmao:

ask your good drinking friend about this 1050 cat ?

also i thought i could mention. my dealer had 2 almost new zr 900's and a brand new f7 that some guys put on consignment.? interesting right? maybe there waiting for something big. i say let them just come out with something new

I have had to eat crow before,,, and if cat comes out with a 1500cc 4 stroke, I will be eating crow again.

I have had to eat crow before,,, and if cat comes out with a 1500cc 4 stroke, I will be eating crow again.
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Me too! We can get together and have a feast Brian!!

Buddy was a Toronto Dealer on Tuesday (Dec. 13) when an email came from AC detailing the 2007 Early Release. Unfortunitely the enclosure wouldn't open so the suspense continues. Dealers must know by today though???

I called my local dealer today and they "supposedly" haven't heard anything about the early release sled yet. I'm actually not all that suprised that they don't know anything yet though. They are clueless of the 2006 lineup that's already out there let alone something yet to come...lol

Would you believe a 1100.....YUP
Would you believe a Lotus engine.....YUP
Would you believe a name of a Fighter Jet.....YUP
Would you believe just as economic as the SDI 1000 or Yammy....YUP
Would you believe the best looking sled on the snow....haven't seen it yet but its suppose to be...

YOU SHOULD!!!

Hold on the ride is going to get a little interesting in about a week or so.....

you got me goin!

It's lookin more and more like Jims source may be right. The suspense is killin me!

This is the most excited (usually I don't believe it 'til you show me) I've been about new stuff from Cat in YEEEAAAAARRRRSSSS!!!!

This is the most excited (usually I don't believe it 'til you show me) I've been about new stuff from Cat in YEEEAAAAARRRRSSSS!!!!
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You guys had better not be yankin my pull cord. I've been telling all my friends how great of a source of knowledge you guys are and how your usually correct. This could be the best Christmas gift ever, Or New Years!

You guys had better not be yankin my pull cord. I've been telling all my friends how great of a source of knowledge you guys are and how your usually correct. This could be the best Christmas gift ever, Or New Years!
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LOL....where'd you get that ridiculous impression of us?? :lmao:

It won't be my Christmas present 'til next year. I'll let some of you guys be the test pilots for the first year. But come spring I'll prob be at my dealer's counter with the order form!!

LOL....where'd you get that ridiculous impression of us?? :lmao:

It won't be my Christmas present 'til next year. I'll let some of you guys be the test pilots for the first year. But come spring I'll prob be at my dealer's counter with the order form!!
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Yeah, I wouldn't be buying one till next season either. I'm not even sure I would spring order again. Seems you can get the same deals, if not better sometimes waiting till the last min. Unless you want some sort of limited edition.

Has anyone else been calling and bugging your dealers trying to get info? If so, what are they saying, any clues, smirks, pleading the 5th?lol Is mine the only clueless dealership out there? (Fat chance)

I havent' called anyone.

I have some good friends at the local kitty dealer. I'll see what I can find out.

I hope this is fact, I can't take the B.S. on rumors anymore, the last 4 years have been miserable. I don't care what they name it T-Cat, Hell Cat P#ssy Cat just give me some :cussing: horses.. :bash:

Has anyone else been calling and bugging your dealers trying to get info? If so, what are they saying, any clues, smirks, pleading the 5th?lol Is mine the only clueless dealership out there? (Fat chance)
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Mine's always on the up-n-up with me, but he's pleading the 5th with me on this one. I guess that shows how well they honor their dealer relations with Cat. Had a friend in Ft Wayne IN that was involved with their racing program and he was never shy about letting the Cat out of the bag, so to speak. But my attempts to contact him are not working.

I hear rumblings of a 900DFI..Sooner or later they will have to go that direction as Bomb and Polaris already are.

I hope this is fact, I can't take the B.S. on rumors anymore, the last 4 years have been miserable. I don't care what they name it T-Cat, Hell Cat P#ssy Cat just give me some :cussing: horses.. :bash:
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I, on the other hand, do care what they name it :huh: Remember the "Lieger"....half lion, half tiger thread a while back... :lmao:

As for the new sled, my dealer did hear about it but wouldn't say anything else :undercover: . He didn't deny it when I said a 1050cc machine two stroke, but I think its anybody's guess right now :sly: .
I guess we'll have to be patient :cussing: , enjoy X-Mas and New Year's Eve :D , and then get some more hints :thumbsup:

Would you believe "TOMCAT"????

Would you believe "TOMCAT"????
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It worked for the fighter jet, but for a sled? I dunno....it just sounds weird to me.
Based on various clues in here though I wouldn't doubt if that is what they are calling this mystery sled.

It worked for the fighter jet, but for a sled? I dunno....it just sounds weird to me.
Based on various clues in here though I wouldn't doubt if that is what they are calling this mystery sled.
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You'll have to be a "Fat Cat" to have the cash to get one... :lmao:

You'll have to be a "Fat Cat" to have the cash to get one... :lmao:
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So true!!! All this hype and expectation, and when it comes time to buy one next year, I prob won't be able to part with $10,000 for a sled. As much as I'm addicted to this sport, I think I'll have a hard time paying that much for a snowmobile.

one thing for sure. the price will not be less than what we usually pay for a sled. only can go up. thats the civilized world way. PAY !

until you get on one you cant say you wouldnt pony up. cause i know the thrill alone is what gets people to cough up the 10g's +

Well.....the "TOMCAT" would fit......it's supposed to be a 1000 "Class" 4 stroke right?
F14-Tomcat
F = F series
1 = 1000
4 = 4 stroke
TomCat.......though not capable of carrying as much ammunition as the F18 Hornet, many fighter pilots state that it is the most maneuverable fighter jet, and is supposed to be slightly faster than the Hornet as well. So naming it after the fastest, most maneuverable fighter jet ever built (so far) would be fitting.

Also the "rumour" of a Lotus engine posted earlier makes sense too!!! Lotus makes Rotary Valve Airplane engines!!! (as well as fast mid (rotary valved) engined sportscars). Could we possibly see the FIRST rotary valved snowmobile engine??? Could you imagine a 160 hp snowmachine with a 4 stroke that redlines at 10,000 RPM, capable of reaching peak performance RPM's FASTER than a 2 stroke????? A rotary valve 4 stroke is the way to go if you want to outperform a 2 stroke on the bottom end, while still getting GREAT fuel economy if you're driving the sled "easy".

a rotary engine would be kickass

Johnson/Evenrude had a rotory engine snowmobile back in the 70s, it was always terrible to start.

Cat had a rotory in like 74' The wankel Panther. See Brown's leisure parts directory. I know where there is two running on the same farm. Quite cool.
Overandout
slickster

A new chasie with a 16" track 17" tunnel. Bosting a 1050 called the 1100 cranking out 185hp in trail trim. Yes the return of the king.

Now the 700 laydown will not be made in 08 nore will the 440. The 500 is going to lose its power valves.

There will be a 800 and 900 laydown going in the firecat and M sled.

I will have some pictures late january as we get to sport a proto at the end of the month.

Don

What 440 is not going to be made??
The only 440 in the line-up is the sno-pro.
Late Jan uh, well I guess there is no mid-season release??

What 440 is not going to be made??
The only 440 in the line-up is the sno-pro.
Late Jan uh, well I guess there is no mid-season release??
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From what I uderstand there will be no more 440 class at sno-cross. They are going to a 600 class. Understanding is these motor will be a version of the stock 600. What I've read is this sled may see general public. Don't quote me but sounds good. As I've read they are trying to move the market to be simular to motocross. Which is cool because anyone buy a 250, race it and be competitive. It's much different with 440's (expensive and performs like a good 600). I've also heard that the mod motors may see public.
Overandout.

I hope they make something in the 250 cc range. Did anyone go to their website a few months back and take the questionaire that they had. Sounded like they were thinking about targeting a middle age group- too big for the 120, but too small for a 440.

Now that I have a son(3 1/2 mo old) I have to start saving up for his new sled. He already has a 1972 Cheetah that is in mint condition. He needs something with a little more kick!
Keep your eye open for the 3/4 size sled.

That's my $.02

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we definitely need the 3/4 sled. we need the electronic reverse NOW, NOW !!! no reverse no new sled, that simple.

Electric reverse it great and all but mechanical reverse still does the same thing just adds some weight. I don't think not having electric rev would stop me from purchasing a sled... no rev maybe...just my .02 though G

Not sure if any of you have seen this. Found it on ArcticChat.com

"OK guys...This is no joke. While I was in the UP riding this past weekend...I saw a sled that I have never seen before. It was in a "Crossfire" type chassis...long style track...looked like my SaberCat/Firecat....and as I passed it on the crosstrail...I had to take a double take at it!!!! Across the hood read (In the new style Cat lettering) THUNDERCAT!!

This is NO JOKE!!! By the time I turned around and grabbed the camera from my pocket (as I was doing like 50 MPH) the Cat was long gone down the trail....

I KNOW WHAT I SAW and it was no "copy" cat....Watch for it VERY SOON!!!!

DOC"

Sure hope it's true.

:thumbsup: The rumours about A-C 07 have been many. You could feel the antisipation of a "A-C year". 1200 or 1300 4-stroke, M9/F9 or a new model with tubular frame, is what's been in the rumour-mill so far. We still know nothing about engine-sizes or models, but we have managed to get a hold of a teaser. It's a small picture, and shows very little, but tells a lot. The construction seems to be a tubular frame, like a MC. Just like the one rumour has said. For now it's only our imagination who can tell how the rest of the snowmobile looks... Enjoy our picture - and dream on


http://www.scooternorge.no/ [attachmentid=25604]

I wouldnt even call that a tease hahah. well at least we have a picture of something.I am sick of my buds shoving there apex's in my face like there so cool but honestly im not keeping up with them so thhis machine better come out soon

Atleast it's something.

Todays the day Cat fans. A/C is letting the dealers know what the early release is. From what I have been told it will be a 175 h.p. 4 stroker.

Yeah but when are we gonna know? we need someone who is tight with there dealer to let them have a peak at whatever fax Cat sends along. Anyone out there?

I'm trying. Nothing yet!!! Still sounds like a lot of tounge and cheek to me.

Todays the day Cat fans. A/C is letting the dealers know what the early release is. From what I have been told it will be a 175 h.p. 4 stroker.
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So how do you know today is the day? Are you in tight enough with your dealer that they will tell you what it is when they know?

we saw some prototype sleds a few years back up in the UP of michigan and there was no writing or decals of any sort on them. They were black,,, that is it. I would make the assumption that the thundercat that was seen was nothing more than someone adding the decals to their sled. I can go and have that done right here at my local vinyl store.

Think this is the year for my new sled, so they need to come up with a long track that I like,,, crossfire sits too far forward for me,,, maybe a little seat time would change my mind though.

The crossfire is definetly rider forward and if your not used to it, it tends to feel weird for awhile. I would love to see a 136" four stroker with a rider seatr similar to the firecat sno-pro. that seat is definetly in between the crossfire feel and the sno-pro feel IMO. they may be the same for all i know but the firecat feels a little more comfortable if you were making the switch from a standard ZR seat (like myself)

My dealer is very aware that I am hot to trot on purchasing the new four stroke (when it comes out) i told him last week that as soon as he knows something he will have my deposit in hand.

I am getting to antsy to keep reading this topic. im just going to put on a blind fold until i can hear the hungry four stroker pass me on the trail. hahaha

look for a thundercat1000 in 07

look for a thundercat1000 in 07
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i am praying nightly for a 1000 its time to put some big power to the ground in a new body style

Lets see what we've got so far :D :

2 stroke, 4 stroke, turbo, 800cc, 900cc, 1000cc, 1050cc, 1200cc, 1300cc, F-chassis, M-chassis, 13" track, 15" track, Hellcat, Tomcat, Thundercat, Bobcat...etc :dazed:

Here's my take on it :cool:

The new 2007 Arctic Cat will be a 1000cc turbo diesel triple with triple pipes in a FM-chassis with a 14" track. It will produce 190HP but will have 300 ft/lb torque :devil:

And its gonna be called the PUSYCAT :hallo1: :hallo1:

No more guessing now!!!!! :thumbsup:

Lets see what we've got so far :D :

2 stroke, 4 stroke, turbo, 800cc, 900cc, 1000cc, 1050cc, 1200cc, 1300cc, F-chassis, M-chassis, 13" track, 15" track, Hellcat, Tomcat, Thundercat, Bobcat...etc :dazed:

Here's my take on it :cool:

The new 2007 Arctic Cat will be a 1000cc turbo diesel triple with triple pipes in a FM-chassis with a 14" track. It will produce 190HP but will have 300 ft/lb torque :devil:

And its gonna be called the PUSYCAT :hallo1: :hallo1:

No more guessing now!!!!! :thumbsup:
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This is what they are saying on arcticChat.

The new sled(s) will hit the production line on Feb. 2, 2006. The fisrt run will be a 1000cc Two stroke twin, named the Z1. The first dyno pull on this motor netted 170hp. All 07' modles will have the "big clutch" Diamond Drive and reverse. I belive the Z1 will be in the X-fire chassis or very simmilar. The other mystery sled will be a four stroke twin, unknown chassis at this time. Possibly the new Thunder Cat? Only time will tell....


just confirmed official cat release coming on the 14 from the nation's rep, dealers have been notified of an official sled release. the man said what cat is offering is somthing nobody else has....meaning? (nor did he say anything about 2 stroke or 4 stroke) this is not BS or the factory is lieing to me.

I have gone where no manm has gone before!!!

ok so i called cat yesterday (yep in thief river falls MN) i told the new product specialist (whos name I can reveal) that i was from snowmobile world.com and the dedicated arctic cat forum surfers need this new info and are not happy that any norwegian snowmobile magazine would have that before we would here i the US. his reply was that that website has started quite the rucus and he said there is way to much speculation running around.

as for a new sled he would not reveal any of his information. well anyway i tried guys. keep on with the speculation though. at least its entertaining

PS. i like the turbo diesel idea hahaha ill have to ask cat about that one

Thanks for trying!

Thanks for trying!

Thanks for trying!

This is what they are saying on arcticChat.

The new sled(s) will hit the production line on Feb. 2, 2006. The fisrt run will be a 1000cc Two stroke twin, named the Z1. The first dyno pull on this motor netted 170hp. All 07' modles will have the "big clutch" Diamond Drive and reverse. I belive the Z1 will be in the X-fire chassis or very simmilar. The other mystery sled will be a four stroke twin, unknown chassis at this time. Possibly the new Thunder Cat? Only time will tell....
just confirmed official cat release coming on the 14 from the nation's rep, dealers have been notified of an official sled release. the man said what cat is offering is somthing nobody else has....meaning? (nor did he say anything about 2 stroke or 4 stroke) this is not BS or the factory is lieing to me.
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You guys are freakin killin me here.....I'm looking at an 06 crossfire 7 right now. I would really love to have reverse though...... Funny how the current promotions end on Jan 31 and the new product info doesn't come out until Feb 14th. Guess I should sit on it for a couple weeks....

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PS. i like the turbo diesel idea hahaha ill have to ask cat about that one
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Will that be a CATerpillar Turbo Deisel? :lmao:

We should know monday. A new model should be release. That`s what my dealer told me.

Local dealer said they won't know about the 07 model's until end of Feb, beg of March!!! I think maybe they are just trying to sell me a sled. Just need to know if the 07's will have reverse!!!!!!!! Any help?????

Reverse is over rated...why would anyone need reverse in the first place? Learn how to park your sled so you don't need it...I'm tired of hearing about reverse. :sarcasm:

Local dealer said they won't know about the 07 model's until end of Feb, beg of March!!! I think maybe they are just trying to sell me a sled. Just need to know if the 07's will have reverse!!!!!!!! Any help?????
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I heard that the dimond drive will have reverse for next year.

Reverse is over rated...why would anyone need reverse in the first place? Learn how to park your sled so you don't need it...I'm tired of hearing about reverse. :sarcasm:
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Maybe for you, but try thinking outside the box. Do you ever go 2-tracking? What about the guy/gal who is not supposed to lift anything heavy? What about someone parking you in? :whistling:

isnt it monday did we hear anything yet?

isnt it monday did we hear anything yet?
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PB, with all the sepculations flying around, I've heard it may be as late as first week in March now 'til we know something :bash: Please remind me next year this time not to read all these threads about somebody who knows somebody who might know something about Cat's new releases. :lol:

Maybe for you, but try thinking outside the box. Do you ever go 2-tracking? What about the guy/gal who is not supposed to lift anything heavy? What about someone parking you in? :whistling:
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Yeah, what he said, and think about the time you had to turn around on a trail that was too tight. :bash: :bash: :cussing:

I don't think we are going to hear anything soon. THey are still trying to get rid of all the 900's and Xfires. Plus with low snow conditions, and High Gas prices.
Best hope is for info to leak out after West Yellowstone.
My brother in law and I were talking, IT only makes sense that it will be a 4 stroke if they are letting the Cat out of the bag in Yellowstone. Hmmmm

Reverse is over rated...why would anyone need reverse in the first place? Learn how to park your sled so you don't need it...I'm tired of hearing about reverse. :sarcasm:
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Wow are we having a bad day :( Guess we should all be like you...... eh? Ever been off that pretty groomed trail?????


Maybe for you, but try thinking outside the box. Do you ever go 2-tracking? What about the guy/gal who is not supposed to lift anything heavy? What about someone parking you in? :whistling:
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Thanks Jim :!:

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Yeah, what he said, and think about the time you had to turn around on a trail that was too tight. :bash: :bash: :cussing:

I've had two back surgeries....not real good on the ole disc's to pe picking up the arse of a 500 pound sled. Probably shouldn't even be riding. :( But you know...it's that whole addiction thing. Would be nice to just push the button and back out of those tight spots!!!! Kinda nice for sqeezing that 3rd sled into a two place enclosed trailer also.

My aunts, neighbors, friend knows a guy whos 2nd cousin used to work for a guy whose father worked at cat a few years back and he did all the new sleds clear up to 2012,,,, so I asked about this years model and he said there is a thundercat out, but it is 1200cc and it is turbo charged,,, said something about 280 hp. I guess it has 3 skis to help keep it on the trail and there are 2 162" tracks on it to keep it from just sitting and spinning. There is an optional parachute and wheelie bar for this sled but its only like 350$ for both and I would highly reccomend it after seeing the pictures.
Now they also have a mountain sled coming out for all you mountain warriers. I guess it has a 224" track and they have worked a 1100 triple titanium motor in it. Supposed to be about 225 hp and only weighs a little over 100 lbs!! This one also has an optional parachute but it was mounted near the top of the dash,,,, so I would say its to save you when you launch off the top of something like Mt Everest.
They also got rid of the firecats and sabercats with the 13.5" tracks as well as the limited idler wheel set ups that we have seen in recent years. The new killercats (thats the new name for them) have went to a 26" wide track with 3" lugs, but they have dropped the track from 128" down to 44". I guess this really saves on the rotating mass and makes those puppies hum. They have also went from 6 idlers up to 22 on the killercat trail (sabercats) and 18 on the killercat pros (firecats). to save weight even more on these models, they have removed the hood and seat. the motor is actually mounted behind the rider. This moves the rider forward for the ultimate rider forward postion. Another little trick that cat threw in these sleds was the rear steer. The skis actually are locked in,,, they do not turn,,, it is the track that rotates to the left and right. It was really supposed to be a great concept that was tried this summer and the test riders said it was much more responsive to rider input. They did go to the rider select steering (kinda think they stole that one from poo) but there was not only the 8 postitions, but they also had a telescoping set up on there that basically gave you over 2500 different steering positions. Cat also hit a home run by mounting the gas tank down between the skis,,, this really lowers the center of gravity and they also decreased the tank volume to 2 1/2 gallon,,, so that saves a great amount of weight also.
Cat also appears to have a home run with the kid models this year,,, the old z-120 that turned into a zr-120 and then the f-120 is now gone. This new model, the F-111 I think, kinda looks like a stealth bomber on a track. It is actually a 2 seater (side by side) and has a huge trunk in the rear that can be convereted into a 3rd adult seat if you want to ride along with your youngsters. There is a computer of some sort in this one that you can actually adjust your speed control and your hp right from the drivers seat. It is key gaurded so you can set it up for the regular 8 mph and thats all junior is going to do. You can also dial it clear up to somewhere around 75 hp (out of that 40 cc 6 stroke motor) and it will get awful close to 100 mph (on an icy lake of course).
He also said that cat was going to shy away from the cat green and the black as they felt they were getting old. Instead, they are going to go to a skyblue pink color. They felt they would stick out and really bring the cat name back to the top. They have different graphic schemes that you can get right on your sleds. Its a pretty neat concept,,, I really like the one with the silver and gold fire flames running down the side and the pink furry seat. Man that thing stood out!!!

I guess the biggest thing cat did this year was take care of the reverse problem. They got tired of hearing about the doo reverse where you simply hit a button and the sled stops, starts in reverse, and then you back up. So they have also slapped 2 buttons right up near the base of the handlebars. When you press the first one, the sled stops, an arm comes out of each side right behind your footwells, they simply pick the sled up and turn it around. That was great, but they really got creative with the second button. They figured out that if you were in a tight situation and didnt have the room to turn around the first one would do no good and riders would complain about that,,,, so in comes the second button. When you press the second button, you have something called a network (kinda like the verizon guys),,, they come running in and will spin you right around,,, they can dig you out of holes,,, they can bring you gas,,, they can help you if your lost,,, the options are unlimited. And to think about it, this all comes as part of the package when you buy the sled.
I guess they are also throwing in all new helmets, boots, gloves, and riding gear when you buy your sleds (another part of the package). They have also slashed the prices on their sleds in half. They are really going to be agressive with this years models and it appears they have started out in the right direction.
Now keep in mind, if some parts of what I was told end up not coming true,,, please dont be mad at me,,, remember, it was my aunts, neighbors, friend who knows a guy whos 2nd cousin used to work for a guy whose father worked at cat a few years back, that filled me in on the details,,,,

Im outta here,,, enjoy
Brian

someone get him some help.... before he falls apart.... wait he already did. haha

My aunts, neighbors, friend knows a guy whos 2nd cousin used to work for a guy whose father worked at cat a few years back and he did all the new sleds clear up to 2012,,,, so I asked about this years model and he said there is a thundercat out, but it is 1200cc and it is turbo charged,,, said something about 280 hp. I guess it has 3 skis to help keep it on the trail and there are 2 162" tracks on it to keep it from just sitting and spinning. There is an optional parachute and wheelie bar for this sled but its only like 350$ for both and I would highly reccomend it after seeing the pictures.
Now they also have a mountain sled coming out for all you mountain warriers. I guess it has a 224" track and they have worked a 1100 triple titanium motor in it. Supposed to be about 225 hp and only weighs a little over 100 lbs!! This one also has an optional parachute but it was mounted near the top of the dash,,,, so I would say its to save you when you launch off the top of something like Mt Everest.
They also got rid of the firecats and sabercats with the 13.5" tracks as well as the limited idler wheel set ups that we have seen in recent years. The new killercats (thats the new name for them) have went to a 26" wide track with 3" lugs, but they have dropped the track from 128" down to 44". I guess this really saves on the rotating mass and makes those puppies hum. They have also went from 6 idlers up to 22 on the killercat trail (sabercats) and 18 on the killercat pros (firecats). to save weight even more on these models, they have removed the hood and seat. the motor is actually mounted behind the rider. This moves the rider forward for the ultimate rider forward postion. Another little trick that cat threw in these sleds was the rear steer. The skis actually are locked in,,, they do not turn,,, it is the track that rotates to the left and right. It was really supposed to be a great concept that was tried this summer and the test riders said it was much more responsive to rider input. They did go to the rider select steering (kinda think they stole that one from poo) but there was not only the 8 postitions, but they also had a telescoping set up on there that basically gave you over 2500 different steering positions. Cat also hit a home run by mounting the gas tank down between the skis,,, this really lowers the center of gravity and they also decreased the tank volume to 2 1/2 gallon,,, so that saves a great amount of weight also.
Cat also appears to have a home run with the kid models this year,,, the old z-120 that turned into a zr-120 and then the f-120 is now gone. This new model, the F-111 I think, kinda looks like a stealth bomber on a track. It is actually a 2 seater (side by side) and has a huge trunk in the rear that can be convereted into a 3rd adult seat if you want to ride along with your youngsters. There is a computer of some sort in this one that you can actually adjust your speed control and your hp right from the drivers seat. It is key gaurded so you can set it up for the regular 8 mph and thats all junior is going to do. You can also dial it clear up to somewhere around 75 hp (out of that 40 cc 6 stroke motor) and it will get awful close to 100 mph (on an icy lake of course).
He also said that cat was going to shy away from the cat green and the black as they felt they were getting old. Instead, they are going to go to a skyblue pink color. They felt they would stick out and really bring the cat name back to the top. They have different graphic schemes that you can get right on your sleds. Its a pretty neat concept,,, I really like the one with the silver and gold fire flames running down the side and the pink furry seat. Man that thing stood out!!!

I guess the biggest thing cat did this year was take care of the reverse problem. They got tired of hearing about the doo reverse where you simply hit a button and the sled stops, starts in reverse, and then you back up. So they have also slapped 2 buttons right up near the base of the handlebars. When you press the first one, the sled stops, an arm comes out of each side right behind your footwells, they simply pick the sled up and turn it around. That was great, but they really got creative with the second button. They figured out that if you were in a tight situation and didnt have the room to turn around the first one would do no good and riders would complain about that,,,, so in comes the second button. When you press the second button, you have something called a network (kinda like the verizon guys),,, they come running in and will spin you right around,,, they can dig you out of holes,,, they can bring you gas,,, they can help you if your lost,,, the options are unlimited. And to think about it, this all comes as part of the package when you buy the sled.
I guess they are also throwing in all new helmets, boots, gloves, and riding gear when you buy your sleds (another part of the package). They have also slashed the prices on their sleds in half. They are really going to be agressive with this years models and it appears they have started out in the right direction.
Now keep in mind, if some parts of what I was told end up not coming true,,, please dont be mad at me,,, remember, it was my aunts, neighbors, friend who knows a guy whos 2nd cousin used to work for a guy whose father worked at cat a few years back, that filled me in on the details,,,,

Im outta here,,, enjoy
Brian
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LMAO.
That is some of the most creative writing I've ever read.
Nice. :lmao:

:lmao: :lmao:

I aint loosing anything,,,, really, thats what he told me,,,, really,,,,

he also said something about a bridge he was selling, but I dont need another one,,, since I bought that one off that crazy indian guy out in San Fransisco,,, who really needs 2 bridges???

:lmao: :lmao:

Beautiful...just beautiful!!!!! Puree I applaud you..... :lmao:

wait a second i own that bridge too!!!

NOW,,,,, WE HAVE US A PROBLEM!!!!

Puree,that was great,you must not have any snow,cause you sure got too much time on your hands. :) :lmao:

Okay does anybody have the facts yet???? Reverse for 07?

all I am allowed to say is you have a BIG BIG surprise coming. I honestly dont know about reverse, but man is there ever something out there,,, dont pm, dont beg, I cant say anymore than I already have.

All I want to know is when..... So I can get my hopes up...G

ok. Puree said BIG twice... so my detective work tells me a two cylinder engine.... ok and since its a "surprise" im going to say twin turbo four stroke with an easy bake oven under the seat. HAHAHA


can you see how far we can stretch this. are we desperate or what

MAN!!!!! The easy bake oven was supposed to be the surprise, now youve gone and ruined it!!!! It was the next big thing for cat,,, supposed to put the hot dogger to shame!!!! Man, nobody in here can keep a secret

BIG BIG !!!!! hehehe

You guys are killing me.

!!! 80% of Cat's lineup will be new. The Xfire does live on.

Jim must have the same source that I do,,,,

BIG BIG

Jim must have the same source that I do,,,,

BIG BIG
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:thumbsup: Only hope that I can convince myself to spend $10k on a new sled...right now I don't see it happening. But I'm sure once I sit on one of these bad boys, I'll be changing my mind. :bash:

given the lack of snow in my neck of the woods i definetly will not be dropping that kind of money. the snow had been good through the christmas when my two buddies each bought new yamahas at 12k a piece. then the next week came and it rained. waste of money when you buy new and kind have some quality time on your machine. It was kinda like that last year. everyon bought new sleds last year and we got skunked. the best riding years i have had have been on pieces of junk that were to old for there liking. im convinced now its better to break down on a snow covered trail during a good winter then to have a new sled you cant ride. after all i only have about 1500 on my 660 and the two spare machines i bought this year have seen more action given the nature of the conditions we have had.

on another note, I think i would be happier if the only thing cat came out with this year was a way of getting us more snow. with all the innovation that it out there i think they should start figuring a way to blanket the north with nice snow for a couple of months then they can go back to trying innovation on new machines. IMO

Winter is to short to be speculating what is coming out next season, just go enjoy it if you have snow and pray for the others that don't. Just go enjoy the sleds you have and wait for Cat to release the new line up, however this thread has become quite comical lately, Thanks Puree :lmao:

For those of us that live in "no-snow land", all we have to do is think about the new sleds and our next trip! :inlove:

Cheer Up Jim, The UP just got hammered!

So do we have a release date yet? I just want to know an official date.

Cheer Up Jim, The UP just got hammered!

So do we have a release date yet? I just want to know an official date.
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I saw that Rob. I hope it all stays and more falls before the second or third week in March.

http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/forum/to...?TOPIC_ID=43425 (http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=43425)

check this out boys, its kinda fugly, i hope the rest of the lineup doesnt look like this or im going yami

Guess I will believe it when I see them,,,, its really hard for me to believe that someone from cat was simply riding one of those down a traveled road for the whole world to see. I could definetly be wrong, but I find it hard to believe.
They test them up in the UP of Michigan all the time,,,, I have seen them a couple of different times over the years and they have always been flat black with no decals or graphics on them at all.
Time will tell.

Looks ugly to me :confused:

Its like a cross between a Firecat and a Rev...especially the headlights :(

Firecat looks much better w00t

Here's a Rev with the colours changed to Arctic Cat green, there's the new sled :p

As for the motor, rumours are its a triple turbo diesel with 150HP and 300 ft/bls torque :lmao: [attachmentid=26229]

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For what it's worth... 1100 twin 4 stroke...

what it's worth... 1100 twin 4 stroke[/b]

Without reverse...lol...(joking)

Up here we don't need reverse as there are no trees and no trails, you basically go where you want to go, that is if it is not too rocky... even then you can still drive over the rocks...

did I mention,,, BIG BIG,,,

Does anyone else think it looks like it has driving lights under the front bumper?
Nevermind, I think it's just a reflection in the hole where the grab handle is.

I think they are air intakes... could be the pipe shield we are seeing, But your right, sure looks like it.

Pretty happy I went with the 06 Crossfire SP.....I love my new sled!!!!!

Not sure about this new body if this is in fact the 07 cat....but I'm sure it will grow on me!!!!! Maybe I'll be ready for it in 2010!!!!!

In all honesty, I have been saying BIG BIG,,,, well 1100cc is a BIG BIG twin. I knew it was a 4 stroke, high cc, motor. I was told that it was a vtwin though. I dont know if this is something yet to come or not?? I do see a turbo charged version of the Jaguar coming and it wouldnt be hard to put a 136 or 144 under the frame of that sled,,, so I have a feeling we may see a long tracked version of it also (maybe both in the same package.)
I cant see them going crazy after the hybrid market with the success of the crossfire. A turbo charged version would put them in the apex market though.
I dont know if a long tracked mountion version could be coming.
You may also see another motor in this frame that is the competition for the mach also,,,, never know
Keep thinking BIG BIG

i want to be thinking NOW NOW!!! hahha

When are the 07's officially unveiled?

When are the 07's officially unveiled?
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Next week is the dealer's unveiling show in Yellowstone, where they'll showcase all of the 07 sleds. Everything else except the Jaguar is secret. Everything said right now is speculation.
One thing though, the diamond drives will have reverse now, which is seen on the Jaguar.