i am looking for ways to sup it up without spending alot of money and a way to make it really loud with out replacing the exauhst if you can help me thanks,

Brian

Why do you want to make it loud? As for souping it up, perhaps start with the basics, compression test, clean carbs, check and service clutches and then see where you're at.

its my freinds sled and we are looking to make it loud to make it seem "kewl" if you know what i am getting at i have done every thing you said and it is grat shap but lags in speed and acceleration.

Sorry, loud does not equal "cool" IMHO.
You will have a hard time finding performance parts for that sled.
I'm with Cory9 on this one, check the basics.

around this area it does
= cool
i was just thinking drill out the exahust pipes what???

I have gotten enough grief for answering posts like this, anyone else want to take this one?

Originally posted by versatileman@Mar 17 2005, 03:51 PM
I have gotten enough grief for answering posts like this, anyone else want to take this one?
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Nope, I'll take the fifth on this with you :withstupid:

i didnt mean any offence to you too i was just wondering what i could tune adjust to make it run as good as it can. the loudness thing is something the friend i am doing this for wants he thinks it wil be"COOLER" :crazy: i personally dont want it to be loud i was just wondering if you know how to go about doingb this i thought just drilling the down tube would do it am i correct in sayying this please help if you can.

sincerly brian

Take the pipe off and silencer. Then replace the pipe with some 3" tube about 8" long. I figure he will have about a 1/2 hour run time before the engine grenades. That should take care of the sleds coolness and stupidness. Seriously your not going to get any ideas for such an ignorant idea. You and your buddy are obviously young and inexperienced with no respect for the sport.
Yes I am bashing because these are exactly the type of ideas that cause big problems for the sledding community.

Drilling holes and making modifications like that just to make it "loud" actually rob performance, and can cause great engine damage. Two stroke snowmobiles are a tuned machine and can be very finiky. Changing the muffler system can have exspensive consequences.

taxicat, versatileman, and cory 9- This joins in that dicscussion that just went on in the General Snowmobiling forum about the "rant on loud pipes." Here you have a chance to educate an obviously impressionable young man, but rather than educate him, you start bashing him and telling him things that he is doing is "stupid." Why not tell him about the noise laws that are being enforced, trail closures, etc. that everybody was arguing about in the other forum? If people want to save the sport, than they need to educate the young- not rip them down sarcastically.

I'm not ranting on you guys by any means, and I'm not taking his side for wanting loud pipes, but I'm not going to completely overlook his question that he posted either.

bripaintball: what you can do is have some porting/polishing done on your intake so gas/air can flow into the cylinders quicker. I have been experimenting recently on trying to copy a device that is used on dirtbikes called the "Power Now" system I believe. What it does is creates a split in the carb to create a greater air flow. I have not gotten too deep into it yet.

Another thing to check can be your jets. Check and see how rich your plugs are buring. If they're dark- try moving down one size. A correctly burning sled will make a world of difference.

Good luck!

D

Brother D, You are correct. Instead of bashing I should educate. Its just very frustrating when I see things like this and I apologize.

Bripaintball, Take the high road and don't modify the exhaust. It will not only ruin the sled but will alienate people that are sensitive to the sport.
Like others have said, get the sled tuned well. Clutching, carbs, suspension etc.
good luck

Unless I've misread my postings at NO time did I bash the young man, I gave him some basic advice which he chose to brush over in his quest for a noisier sled. Along with Versatileman I chose not to get involved again with the noise issue.

Cory9

You're right- not so much you, but pleading the fifth doesn't tell him why he shouldn't do it.

Originally posted by Brother D@Mar 18 2005, 11:11 AM
Cory9

You're right- not so much you, but pleading the fifth doesn't tell him why he shouldn't do it.
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You're right, I should have make that more clear, but I spent so much time sifting through the post in General with regards to loud pipes you just get tired of talking about it.

Originally posted by Brother D@Mar 18 2005, 06:44 AM
Drilling holes and making modifications like that just to make it "loud" actually rob performance, and can cause great engine damage.* Two stroke snowmobiles are a tuned machine and can be very finiky.* Changing the muffler system can have exspensive consequences.

taxicat, versatileman, and cory 9-* This joins in that dicscussion that just went on in the General Snowmobiling forum about the "rant on loud pipes."* Here you have a chance to educate an obviously impressionable young man, but rather than educate him, you start bashing him and telling him things that he is doing is "stupid."* Why not tell him about the noise laws that are being enforced, trail closures, etc. that everybody was arguing about in the other forum? If people want to save the sport, than they need to educate the young- not rip them down sarcastically.

I'm not ranting on you guys by any means, and I'm not taking his side for wanting loud pipes, but I'm not going to completely overlook his question that he posted either.*

bripaintball:* what you can do is have some porting/polishing done on your intake so gas/air can flow into the cylinders quicker.* I have been experimenting recently on trying to copy a device that is used on dirtbikes called the "Power Now" system I believe.* What it does is creates a split in the carb to create a greater air flow.* I have not gotten too deep into it yet.

Another thing to check can be your jets.* Check and see how rich your plugs are buring.* If they're dark- try moving down one size.* A correctly burning sled will make a world of difference.

Good luck!

D
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thank you for givig me a stright answer. i am young and respect the snowmobiling laws and have been around snowmobiles my whole life we would not run this snowmobile on the trails only in his back yard thats why i figured we could make it loud thats the only reason why i told my friend he would risk blowing the engine and agreed with me so we arent going to mess with the pipes i have pipes in my xcr and thaey arent loud by the way and try to stay off of people yard ext...

Now that's a good answer. If you try and make your posts a little clearer, as you just did, it will save confusion and also get you better information quicker.

CORY9 said it perfectly. Make your posts pretty specific.

I'm glad to hear that you aren't going to make the sled as loud as you can. I'm all for a good sounding sled, but what you were looking for sounded like you would seriously PEE OFF your neighbors. I would hope he has a very large yard.

Welcome aboard to this site. It's a great place, but be careful how you word things around here, people will jump on you. It's certainly happened to me. Oh well- I just jump back.

D

I would also like to add that I stoped my post before my brain told me to start bashing. I just wanted someone else to say what has been said. I probably should have said the same thing as you brotherD, but I wasn't sure I could yesterday w/o a bash.
Well said.
Oh, and bripaintball, welcome.

Originally posted by Brother D@Mar 18 2005, 11:38 AM
CORY9 said it perfectly.* Make your posts pretty specific.*

I'm glad to hear that you aren't going to make the sled as loud as you can.* I'm all for a good sounding sled, but what you were looking for sounded like you would seriously PEE OFF your neighbors.* I would hope he has a very large yard.

Welcome aboard to this site.* It's a great place, but be careful how you word things around here, people will jump on you.* It's certainly happened to me.* Oh well- I just jump back.

D
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and yeah we have 300 acres

Oh the dirtbike/snocross track I could make with that much land!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Brother D@Mar 21 2005, 10:58 AM
Oh the dirtbike/snocross track I could make with that much land!!!!!!!!
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we have already been working on something like that for my rapter 660