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Sled Dogg
08-28-2002, 09:35 PM
I saw the REV and though the windshgield looks cool and I like the concept of adjustablity I bet it won't make it through one role over. I feel for you guys that ride hard and role sleds as it looks like it's going to break the first chance it gets.
Caleb

Sharkey
08-28-2002, 10:10 PM
At least the handle bar frame member isn't a plastic gas tank, roll a F-7 and total machine out. What's a windshield cost, $100.00? So what. I've broke 2 since 1975.

670HOTH
08-28-2002, 10:16 PM
Caleb, You may be correct but I don't think many people will influence their buying decision based on how well a windshield holds up from a roll over. *On my list of important things in a sled I put this one right below the color of the bottom of the skis. *I will admit I am not thrilled with the looks of the windshield but it is OK. *The rear of the sled is really starting to grow on me. *I now look at other sleds and they look archaic compared to the REV. *I think a boxy ended tunnel with a flat snow flap looks pretty old now. *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Sled Dogg
08-28-2002, 10:19 PM
I'm starting to like it's looks somewhat with the right color scheme but I bet that windshiled will be *ALOT more than $100 and if it isn't a consern there is something wrong with you! Why buy a machine that can't take a roll over? It's idiotic! It's the only thing I really see wrong with the REV.
Caleb

Machzzzz1
08-28-2002, 10:40 PM
The windsheild wont be a problem. *Bombardier has a windsheild ejection system that allows the windsheld to pop of the machine and flex flat or flap away during a roll. *Yes a high speed roll might still do it in but in that case i think the windsheild will be the last of your problems.

I rolled my s chassie twice and both times the windsheild popped off and saved me the windsheild. *THen all i needed to do was find the rubber elastics that hold it on and replace.

One thing that no one mentions about the REV is its construction material. *Its made out of SURLYN plastic. *Surlyn is probably the best suited plastic for a sled. *Instead of creasing or cracking it bends and then bends back to shape with out leaving a crease. *Its really flexable yet tough. *It will save a lot of headaches and replacement panals.

revrnd
08-28-2002, 10:54 PM
It will be interesting to hear the field reports on the wind protection in sub zero F temps. I rode a friend's '96 Vmax 600 & Yamaha may as well not even bothered to put a 'shield on it. It was useless.

Machzzzz1
08-28-2002, 10:56 PM
This machine has probably spent more hours in a wind tunnel then any of us spend typing on this site. *Im sure bombardier has taken the wind protection in to there line of thinking and it wont be a problem.

Sled Dogg
08-28-2002, 10:59 PM
LOL at the vmax shield. Oh god the horror stories I have riding with one. I froze my face off with it. I think, think being the key word that the REV will work well. It looked like it adjust's up quite high.
Caleb

revrnd
08-28-2002, 11:15 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Machzzzz1 @ Aug. 28, 2002, 11:56pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This machine has probably spent more hours in a wind tunnel then any of us spend typing on this site. *Im sure bombardier has taken the wind protection in to there line of thinking and it wont be a problem.[/b][/quote]
Are you saying Ski-doo tested the low &#39;shield on the &#39;91 Machs? http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif There was another example of styling over function.

I rode a &#39;92 in Sudbury in 0*F weather, not a fun experience if you weren&#39;t wearing leathers.

We&#39;ll know for sure how effective the &#39;shield is when the &#39;04 prototypes are unveiled *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

folgers
08-29-2002, 07:21 AM
sled dog * you roled a rev and broke the windsheild all ready? wow you must be the first on the trails! *
just like the new cats they LOOK fast key word look!
im sure ski doo was thinking of that

Sled Dogg
08-29-2002, 08:13 AM
Folgers,
* *I&#39;m speaking from looking at it for a bit. The wind shield is mounted to the handle bars and moves with the bars ala ACAT Prowler. It adjusts up and down for wind protection but it is made from some sort of plastic as Machzzzz1 stated. I know it wasn&#39;t very moveable when I tried flexing it. And it sure doesn&#39;t look like it&#39;s going to be cheap to replace. We&#39;ll see.
Caleb

Machzzzz1
08-29-2002, 08:26 AM
No the windsheild is just made out of the same stuff like on other windsheilds. I was talking about the body construction.

Im just saying that skidoos windshilds are not mounted to the body, simply held in with elastics that slip over the windshild and allow it to pop of. *Its worked for me on 2 occations. *From my experiance it is very hard to break a windshild that doesnt stay locked on to the machine. *Hopfully the rev will be like that. *But im not planning to roll anything.

800 X
08-29-2002, 08:26 AM
Got the 2003 parts catalogue out and the rev windshield is $75 US but if you roll it you will probably break the handguards first which sell for $40 US.The high rev winshield goes for $85 US.They are no more expensive then the ZX shields.I like the 2-tone precision ski-sole they have for the Rev.Check out the new catalogue,there is lots of nice accessories for your new Rev.

Sled Dogg
08-29-2002, 08:47 AM
But will the shield be the only thing that breaks or will the whole mount snap? That;s going to be the question.
Caleb

AC
08-29-2002, 10:05 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But will the shield be the only thing that breaks or will the whole mount snap[/b][/quote]

A guy rolled one when I went for a test drive last winter. The windshield has only little studs going in a rubber O ring and it just came out. You only have to pop it back in place no harm done.

jdsmi
08-29-2002, 10:50 AM
I&#39;ll stand by my initial opinion in saying that it looks like an afterthought and will eventually end up on the hood somehow.

Mikadoo
08-29-2002, 04:00 PM
I would also be worried about it folding back at high speeds.
It seems VERY flimsey sitting on it. I could see it shaking and giggling around all day, that would drive me nuts!

Rollo D. Motoski
08-30-2002, 06:16 PM
I noticed Sportech is already offering a windshield kit that mounts on cowling. Of course you need to use moto-x style hand guards then.

Rev
08-31-2002, 12:36 PM
In Bombardier Direct you can buy a fixed winshield to fit the rev.

REV X
12-15-2002, 03:58 PM
Hi, I got a question to all you REV owners out there. Is the Sport windshield higher than the X? Got a bit of a cold face when I was riding today, it was –16C and I’m a bit on the tall side so it might not help, but it would be nice to know. Also if I would put on a bar riser will the stock windshield fit or not. Thanks for any help.

TT670
12-15-2002, 04:08 PM
Yes it is taller.

REV X
12-15-2002, 04:33 PM
Yes but how much taller and will it help.

revrnd
12-15-2002, 04:34 PM
Speaking of bar risers, will adding one not raise you hands from behind the "guards" that are supposed to protect your hands from the wind? It will be interesting to see what &#39;doo does when the Legend goes to the REV chassis. I can&#39;t see that crowd being too thrilled w/ the current windshield design.

BlackZX8
12-15-2002, 04:39 PM
Hey REVX how tall are you? I am 6&#39;5" and I am wondering how comfortable the rev is for a tall person. It seemed cramped for me when I sat on it but I have not ridden one yet. Maybe I&#39;ll have to upgrade next year if it is comfortable.

REV X
12-15-2002, 04:43 PM
My thoughts exactly, must be some way to make it fit, will be mighty cold without handguards.

I’m 192cm, don’t know what that is inches. You don’t think of it as cramped when your out riding it, then it feels relay natural and you think why not sooner, I had just sat on it and not ridden it when I put it on spring order and I had some concerns as well but it turned out OK, just would like the bars up a bit and some more wind protection, not that my old MX Z670 was any better rather a lot worse.

Gunner
12-15-2002, 11:31 PM
6 foot 3.5 inches = 192 cm.

GOTSPEED24
12-16-2002, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by TT670@Dec 15 2002, 04:08 PM
Yes it is taller.
will the "X" windshield fit with the "sport" handgaurds?...i would like to put it on my sport with all the other orange accents.

ViperER2
12-16-2002, 03:20 AM
windshields

X = 12"
Sport = 14"
High = 16"

The high is real nice but it only comes in clear. If it came in yellow it wouldn&#39;t look too bad...

check&#39;em out here http://www.bombardierdirect.com click windshields

they don&#39;t show the X shield, but I did hold the "high" up to mine and it is 4" higher! didn’t try it yet though. With a good windproof jacket and a modular helmet, cold hasn’t been a problem and we have actually been out in the single digits. Quite surprised.

Good gloves are a must though because the had warmers are not very good, looking for an aftermarket set that can get hot on demand...

But man is this a great sled or what? :inlove:

.

TT670
12-16-2002, 01:37 PM
Yes the sport windshield center will fit the X handguards but it wont be yellow. Also handlebar risers make the oem windshiel very difficult if notimpossible to use because the windsheild mounts to the bars. Adding a riser changes all of the geometry. ViperER have you had your handwarmers checked or ridden another rev to compare? I think mine work awsome but Im also not used to riding a yamaha with the hand burners.

OntRider
12-16-2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by ViperER2,Dec 16 2002, 03:20 AM
Good gloves are a must though because the had warmers are not very good, looking for an aftermarket set that can get hot on demand...

Mine are overly inconsistent... during the time (<5 minutes) it took me to load the sled on the trailer, the handwarmers were hot. Riding for 4 hours straight last weekend and they were lukewarm. Both times the switch was on the "high" (ha! :)) setting.

REV X
12-16-2002, 03:39 PM
Wonder if 2” will do it for me “as she said” :) , that one will match the handguards at least, have
some measuring to do this weekend.

Bar risers will make quite a gap between the light pod and windshield, that will take some thinking.

My handwarmers are non consistent as well I think, have to try them some more to relay know.

TT670
12-16-2002, 03:45 PM
In the past Ive had decent luck as have others by filling the bar ends with some expandable foam. I may try it this yr too. Anyone have any thumb warmer complaints? On high mine seem to go into blister mode, hotter than h#ll.

GOTSPEED24
12-16-2002, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by TT670@Dec 16 2002, 01:37 PM
Yes the sport windshield center will fit the X handguards but it wont be yellow. Also handlebar risers make the oem windshiel very difficult if notimpossible to use because the windsheild mounts to the bars. Adding a riser changes all of the geometry. ViperER have you had your handwarmers checked or ridden another rev to compare? I think mine work awsome but Im also not used to riding a yamaha with the hand burners.
thanks tt670...i bought the yellow center and the orange hangaurds today...will post a pic later after i put them on

SPORACER
12-16-2002, 06:46 PM
My bar warmers are also very incosistant and the thumb warmer is burning up on high.

ViperER2
12-16-2002, 09:11 PM
looks like the &#39;02 REV warmers are:

hand - inconsistent
thumb - too hot

I’ve seen the exact same results in other forums too!

I am willing to put a 3 party set of grips on it to get it the way I want, just not sure what to use.

I am coming from the Viper and it had GREAT warmers, albeit a bit hard to adjust when flying down the trail!

let me know if anyone has any suggestions about 3rd party grips, I even thought about putting a pair of viper warmers on it. the viper grips themselves are not half as nice as the REV but they heat as expected!

03REVX6
12-17-2002, 03:41 AM
I added a 1" riser to my Rev X and it made a world of differance in wind protection. I just " rolled" the windshield foward/down some to keep the " factory " look that left me with a 3/8 to 1/2" gap. By DOOING this i have made the windshield straighter shooting the wind up and over me instead of getting it in the face. My friend has a Sport with a medium windshield and they now feel about the same in the wind protection dept. And i still get to keep my X windshield :p . The 1" riser also helped me alot for riding comfort since i am 6&#39;2" it moves the bars more back than up so i can stretch my legs a little. :thumbsup: As far as hand and thumb warmers go.... mine are no better no worse than an other Doo that i have owned ???


Rev

REV X
12-17-2002, 02:12 PM
Ok I think I will try 03REVX6 tip, start with a riser and tip the windshield a bit and see how it works.
Ill be back with some pics soon if their is some dealer in town that keep risers in stock.
And tanks for all your help although I’m a new member to this forum, have noticed on other sites
that a newcomer can have some difficulties to be taken seriously, appreciate it a lot.

ROTT
12-17-2002, 06:20 PM
I just put a 2" riser on my Rev X and it leaves about a 1-3/4 to 1-7/8 gap, any ideas on what you can do about the gap between windshield and couling?

REV X
01-19-2003, 08:59 AM
Got a articulating riser at last and now it looks like this.

Trapper
01-19-2003, 07:04 PM
Revrnd,
The windshield bracket is connected TO the bars. Raising the bars will raise the windshield. But then you have the prob. of a large gap at the bottom where the windshield meets the cowling.

Trapper

revrnd
01-19-2003, 10:00 PM
It looks like Ontario is going to be hit w/ some cold temps this week (highs) -16* C in southern Ontario to -28*C in Kapuskasing.

Let&#39;s hear some comments about wind protection after this week ;)

The Summit Ltd. Build has a different windshield & the hand guards appear to be bigger. Has anyone seen a new Summit beside a REV?

kennypope
01-19-2003, 10:26 PM
I ride in Timmins and we are in the middle of a deep freeze of late, and did alot of riding this weekend. I was warmer riding my rev sport, that on my renegade 800. And the rev windshield doesn&#39;t flex at high speed, nothing like my adjustable windshield on my F-3!

revrnd
01-20-2003, 12:11 AM
Kenny, what do you have for a suit, nylon or leather?

kennypope
01-20-2003, 12:41 PM
I were a everest 3 in 1 parka that ski-doo clothing makes with ckx pants, a warm suit cause i used to wear leather and i find this just as warm but not as heavy.

JMekeel
01-20-2003, 12:49 PM
Rode Tug Hill, New York this weekend, temperatures dropped to -19f in the evening. My hands got cold no colder then anybody else riding other manufactured sleds. Hand warmers are not the best, my Polaris had great warmers. The thumb warmer was o.k. but noticed it gets extremely hot on the outside of the pad. I wonder if the thumb pad was put on backwords? Running across a lake I noticed alot of wind in the upper chest and head area, but they said this wasn&#39;t going to be a lake machine. Would the after market hand protectors from Sporttech do a better job of wind protection? Then I can install a low racer style windshield, not so concerned about upper body drag on the trails.

REV X
01-20-2003, 01:48 PM
I have a Sportech ABR 2in riser that needed some tube spacers to make it fit to the steering post, slightly over 3in rise, moved the windshield to the upper mounting slots and tilted it forward, not a big gap to the cowling and doesn’t look to bad
Wind flow moved from upper body to center of helmet and made it much easier to stand up and ride.

scooby doo
01-20-2003, 04:00 PM
My buddy rolled his new Rev 2 weeks ago. Windshield busted right off. Even broke the brackets. Approx. $150 U.S. to replace

dooman
01-20-2003, 05:02 PM
buddy of mine rolled a zx 600 ho,220 in parts to fix so whats the point here caleb? if you roll any machine your more than likely to be buying some parts to fix it.so I agree "that is right there with the color of the bottom of the skis"

ViperER2
01-20-2003, 05:40 PM
clearly caleb does not know what he/she is talking about.

the windshield will take as much abuse as you can give it! NORMAL ABUSE that is!

but why roll it? the sled is so stable, that unless you are shi$faced rolling it while riding trails is pretty hard to doo!

drive safe and stop worrying about the "windshield"

and if you doo roll it, why shouldn&#39;t you have to pay??that&#39;s ski-doos fault too? the sled was designed to remain with the track side down...

revectomy
01-23-2003, 09:03 PM
caleb.....u seem awfully concerned with a sled u don&#39;t own. i don&#39;t know of to many sleds that roll over without takin damage.
as 4 wind... i have the rev x and it&#39;s not the best prtection.......but i gladly give that up 4 all thai it is