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: Sc-10 Upgraded To Sc-10 Iii


Tski-doo12
04-11-2005, 04:06 PM
I want to put a newer suspension in my 1997 mach 1 700 ski-doo. Right now I have a SC-10 suspension and was looking to upgrade it with SC-10 III off a 2003 REV. Has anyone ever done this before? Is it worth the extra money? And do I have to buy any special mounting kit or will it just fit right in? Anything would be great!

big windy mxz
05-04-2005, 06:07 AM
I'm not sure but I think the front arm is longer on an Rev , I just put a ScIII from my 02 ZX into my 98 FIII C/K, it bolted right in . But because we have no snow I couldn't tell you what the results are . I'm waiting for an Mbrp widening kit to install X piggybacks in the front suspension . I will measure the front arm on my Rev and see if the

SCIIIs are similiar and get back to you .

The front arms are the same length on my 02 skid (zx) and 03 (rev).

mrgutz
05-05-2005, 11:37 AM
Hey,
I do not beleive it is a easy process to go to an sc10III from a an SC10. I was told to stay away from it as a project. I would recommend the M-10 OR EVEN BETTER THE M-12.
Later
Gutz

Bomber Guy
06-13-2005, 06:26 PM
I am wanting to do the same thing to my 98 mxz 670, I have already bought the sc10 3 from a rev 600, so i am hoping i can make it work over the summer, my suspension has had its time, i have been told the front holes line up but the back need to be redrilled, i am going to get measurments from my friends rev 600 or 800 and hopfully make it work. any one else know anything please let us know, thanks

mrgutz
06-14-2005, 07:10 AM
hey,
also remember to measure from the drive axel, not just along the tunnel. hope this helps and let us know how it turns out.
later
Gutz

labudda
06-14-2005, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by Bomber Guy@Jun 13 2005, 06:26 PM
I am wanting to do the same thing to my 98 mxz 670,* I have already bought the sc10 3 from a rev 600,* so i am hoping i can make it work over the summer, my suspension has had its time, i have been told the front holes line up but the back need to be redrilled,* i am going to get measurments from my friends rev 600 or 800 and hopfully make it work.* any one else know anything please let us know, thanks
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let me know how this one turns out. I thought about doing that but I have no idea how the rider forward position from a rev will work in an sc10 suspension. I would be curious what you thought of the ride next season.

tpopchock
09-05-2005, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by mlabudda@Jun 14 2005, 08:21 AM
let me know how this one turns out. I thought about doing that but I have no idea how the rider forward position from a rev will work in an sc10 suspension. I would be curious what you thought of the ride next season.
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Hello, Slightly different situation, but perhaps this information can help you some. Withe the help of Mr Gutz, and then some information gathering on the web I have successfully installed an 02 sc10 III rear end into my 1996 Formula III 600! I took the measurements to go from c-7 to sc-10. Then I moved the brackets forward 9/16" from there. Bolted in place, and once my dumb ### flipped the spring guides over the right way, the suspension works like a charm. Thanks Gutz! Good luck guy..

swish
10-03-2005, 07:19 PM
i had my sc-10-2 in an s chassis,they will mount in the same holes as the sc-10.the sc-10-3 mount holes are a little farther apart.

cholbert
10-27-2005, 09:27 AM
If you guys get this to work post some pics I would be interested to see how it looks and works. good luck

labudda
10-27-2005, 09:29 AM
Mine will be in Nov 12th. Already have all the new parts, just need the time and help to drop the old out and put the new one in.

Buds
11-03-2005, 10:19 AM
If you guys get this to work post some pics I would be interested to see how it looks and works. good luck
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I'll second that request :thumbsup:

big windy mxz
11-03-2005, 07:02 PM
Well its done but not tested, Front end widened w/ X piggybacks , SCIII x skid in the rear. It needs to be put on snow and dialed in. Wish me luck I sold the old skid w00t

mrgutz
11-03-2005, 09:16 PM
Looks Good!
Think Snow!
Gutz

Ron W
11-03-2005, 09:32 PM
My 97 Mach Z was modified when I bought it. The original SC10 had been replaced with SCII. Having troble with set up no weight transfer and bottoms out hard in the whoopsno matter what spring preload. Shocks are good strap is loose still tomuch weight on the skis and wont pick them up just and spins 192 picks like nothing. Hope you can get yours dialed in.

rjd75
11-11-2005, 08:27 AM
My 97 Mach Z was modified when I bought it. The original SC10 had been replaced with SCII. Having troble with set up no weight transfer and bottoms out hard in the whoopsno matter what spring preload. Shocks are good strap is loose still tomuch weight on the skis and wont pick them up just and spins 192 picks like nothing. Hope you can get yours dialed in.
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I did this last year on my FIII 800 and I experienced the exact same problem.. I had an SC10-II-X and piggybacks off an 01 800X.. The sled just wanted to lean on the front end every time I took off.. I had 192 studs and they would spin like crazy.. I had triple pipes and plenty of power once I got going but off the line it would never hook up..

-R.

mrgutz
11-11-2005, 09:57 AM
hey,

go here: http://216.37.204.202/Skidoo_OEM/Skidoo.as...e=13&A=316&B=30 (http://216.37.204.202/Skidoo_OEM/Skidoo.asp?Type=13&A=316&B=30) then (1999) then (mxz 440 x lc) then (REAR ARM (RR.SUSP.) (MX Z X 440 LC)), then in the picture find the following parts:

part# 32 and the two 40s controll the link, remove them (ON BOTH SIDES), then test your sled, also crank-up the (front ((rear-suspension) (shock spring) preload))).

Once you tested it, DO NOT LEAVE THESE PIECES OUT FOR NORMAL RIDING, ONLY FOR TESTING, let me know the results. this should give you what you want. Be Careful.

later
Gutz

Ron W
11-16-2005, 11:40 AM
Last year I tried just removing the rear 40,s It transferd weight a little better. When we get some snow I will remove the other parts you suggest and crank up the preload to see what happens.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Ron W

Tski-doo12
12-01-2005, 03:59 PM
Hey guys I just got into snowmobiling and was actually considering swapping my 97 mach suspension for rev suspension but I have got many replies on other sites saying it would be a very hard task. I don't know too much so I wasn't gonna risk it. Thanks for the replies.

mrgutz
12-02-2005, 09:53 PM
Hey,
Call Fast (www.teamfast.com) get an M-10 or M-12, it's pricey but worth it, it's the best i've ridden. If you still want to go down this road let me know.
Later
Gutz

Buds
12-03-2005, 08:53 PM
I also just put an SC10-III out of an 04' Rev X model. I asure they are a direct fit into a '99 CK3 model. The front mount is different however I just removed the front bushings out of the old SC10 and slid them in to the III.

The rear mount should be moved forward 1/2 - 1" however it will still work if you dont move the mount.

Now I just have to figure out why when I jump on the rear bar hard it bottoms out and stays down....Any idea why guys ?

Also put piggyback shocks up front with a widening kit. This does require a little thought but done quite easily.

Now I'm just not sure what to do as I bought this '99Z for the motor to build an 809 Rev 440X but its almost to nice to part with...oh well I'll figure something out.

Mike

mrgutz
12-04-2005, 12:26 AM
hey,
does it appear to be mechanicaly locked, does it come back up if you lift the rear?
later
gutz

Buds
12-04-2005, 08:20 AM
Yep, if I just lift up alittle it pops right back up to normal height. I'll have a closer look today however everything looks good.

Buds
12-06-2005, 11:01 PM
Got it all working, I had to use the factory front mounting position on the rev skid, also moved the rear mount down some, very important to get the rear in the right position as you risk denting the rear shock body. Some people say to move the rear mount forward 9/16 " to get the transfer block to the front however in my case suspension did not operate properly when I tried that, which is OK by me as I was not looking for ski lifting fun but rather an all round better ride.

Mike