Have heard about this before, but just got this email today so I thought I would share with my SW friends. I say let's try it and see what happens.....

IT HAS BEEN CALCULATED THAT IF EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES DID NOT PURCHASE A DROP OF GASOLINE FOR ONE DAY AND ALL AT THE SAME TIME, THE OIL COMPANIES WOULD CHOKE ON THEIR STOCKPILES. AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD HIT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH A NET LOSS OF OVER 4.6 BILLION DOLLARS WHICH AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINES OF THE OIL COMPANIES.

THEREFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED "STICK IT UP THEIR @$$" DAY AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION SHOULD NOT BUY A SINGLE DROP OF GASOLINE THAT DAY.

THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT.

WAITING ON THIS ADMIINSTRATION TO STEP IN AND CONTROL THE PRICES IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDUCTION AND CONTROL IN PRICES THAT THE ARAB NATIONS
PROMISED WEEKS AGO?

REMEMBER ONE THING, NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF GASOLINE GOING UP BUT AT THE SAME TIME AIRLINES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES, TRUCKING COMPANIES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES WHICH EFFECTS PRICES ON EVERYTHING THAT IS SHIPPED. THINGS LIKE FOOD, CLOTHING, BUILDING MATERIALS, MEDICAL SUPPLIES ETC. WHO PAYS IN THE END? WE DO!

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF THEY DON'T GET THE MESSAGE AFTER ONE DAY, WE WILL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SO DO YOUR PART AND SPREAD THE WORD. FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND MAKE SEPTEMBER 1ST A DAY THAT THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES SAY "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"

PLEASE FORWARD THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU CAN!!!!

It wont work. Everyone would have to change their lifestyle for the gas prices to change.
What the gas companies lose one day they would more than make up the next day.
Its a novel idea, but it wont work.
Octane

A novel idea, perhaps won't work but it's getting to the point where something has to be done. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

Originally posted by Octane@Aug 26 2005, 03:40 PM
It wont work.* Everyone would have to change their lifestyle for the gas prices to change.
What the gas companies lose one day they would more than make up the next day.
Its a novel idea, but it wont work.
Octane
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Well, you're partially correct. It might not work because stubborn Americans won't give up their lifestyles even for one day, even for a matter like this. Unfortunately, we have way too many selfish people in this country, that like to ##### about how things are, but are unwilling to really do anything about it....like doing their part. Instead they sit back and want to blame everyone around them for what's happening. Many things would correct themselves if we would speak with our wallets. But we don't...we just keep paying too much for gas, too much for cars, trucks, etc. I travel 4000 miles/month for my job. I continually see people flying on the interstates well above 65mph in large trucks, suv's, etc. If these people really wanted to help themselves as gas prices continue to soar, wouldn't it be a good idea for them to slow down a little so they would get better mileage? How many people carpool these days? I would bet a paycheck the number isn't nearly what it was 10-15 yrs ago.

But, it would work if the majority would get on board. And "no", the oil companies wouldn't simply just make it all up the next day. It's not like every American would simply go to work twice the next day, run twice as many errands, etc, there just wouldn't be enough time in one day. Granted, some of the transportation companies might have to pull double duty, but it wouldn't be the majority. A large back-up of gas at the pumps would reach back to the amount of oil coming into the country, and it would cause a backup where the oil originates. If nothing else, it would show the powers that be that we can unite as a country and take a stand, throwing our consumer buying power weight around. But I guess as long as people have the "it won't work" and "I'm just a citizen, I can't help the matter" attitudes about things, we'll never be better off than we are now, and things might actually get worse. :confused: So carry on my friends, carry on!!

"Like a small pebble that starts an avalanche" ahh very good grasshopper. No I agree we all should do this. It may not work but you know what it would make me feel better knowing that they were losing money that day....G

I have the ablility to store the fuel, in my vehicle at that, that would last for that day. no change in my lifestyle. they would not only loose money but the stockpiles would cause prices to drop. it does not say don't use fuel only not to buy it. Jim I hate to say it but I am one of those that run 70-75 in my truck but it gets better mpg there . I drop 2-3 mpg at 65 ,sorry but I love my diesel :wink: . however the harley is my main ride during these high fuel price times :thumbsup: .

I think it would be more effective if we were to boycott one or two oil companies. Then after hurting them for 2 or 3 months switch to one or two other oil companies. And so on and so on. You get the picture.

The oil companies can more then afford to stockpile oil supplies for one day and when they sell their usual oil supply the next day, it won't disrupt anything in the "big picture."

Jeff

On a lighter note,,, all I can say is, If I need gas for my sled when I want to ride, well,, Im getting Gas !!! :lmao: :lmao:

j/k... relax and :)

Originally posted by dooman@Aug 28 2005, 10:38 AM
I have the ablility to store the fuel, in my vehicle at that, that would last for that day. no change in my lifestyle. they would not only loose money but the stockpiles would cause prices to drop. it does not say don't use fuel only not to buy it.* Jim I hate to say it but I am one of those that run 70-75 in my truck but it gets better mpg there . I drop 2-3 mpg at 65 ,sorry but I love my diesel :wink: . however the harley is my main ride during these high fuel price times :thumbsup: .
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Barry, thanks for seeing my point. Why did I know you would understand?! The majority that read that email seem to think no one should drive that day, they just don't get it. And the peeps I referred to on the interstates are not in diesels, I'm talking about V8 gassers. :D BTW, I've been seriously considering buying a bike for some of my travels.

Jeff, I'd be willing to try your idea too...we've got to try something instead of sitting back and waiting for someone else to intervene. It wouldn't hurt so much if the oil companies weren't recording record profits!! :cussing:

I for 1 refuse to buy anything other than gas @ their stations. If I want pop or snacks I go to a convenience store.

Originally posted by JIM FRITCH+Aug 26 2005, 10:05 PM-->Well, you're partially correct.* It might not work because stubborn Americans won't give up their lifestyles even for one day, even for a matter like this.* Unfortunately, we have way too many selfish people in this country, that like to ##### about how things are, but are unwilling to really do anything about it....like doing their part.* Instead they sit back and want to blame everyone around them for what's happening.* Many things would correct themselves if we would speak with our wallets.* But we don't...we just keep paying too much for gas, too much for cars, trucks, etc.* I travel 4000 miles/month for my job.* I continually see people flying on the interstates well above 65mph in large trucks, suv's, etc.* If these people really wanted to help themselves as gas prices continue to soar, wouldn't it be a good idea for them to slow down a little so they would get better mileage?* How many people carpool these days?* I would bet a paycheck the number isn't nearly what it was 10-15 yrs ago.

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Jim, sounding a little hypocritical there with the drive 4,000 miles thing. I drive fast in my V8, so what. Unless you drive a hybrid, don't have more then a 10 minute commute to work, don't use the AC and buy only things that have not been shipped, leave the fast drivers alone. To many variables to say one person is better then another when it comes to fuel consumption. Sorry, I just hate it when I am told how to drive and ridiculed for it.

On the other hand I will participate in the gas off day. I don't like paying a lot for it, just I am going to use it when I have it.

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I think it would be more effective if we were to boycott one or two oil companies. Then after hurting them for 2 or 3 months switch to one or two other oil companies. And so on and so on. You get the picture.

The oil companies can more then afford to stockpile oil supplies for one day and when they sell their usual oil supply the next day, it won&#39;t disrupt anything* in the "big picture."

Jeff
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I agree with this, actually I had an email that said hit Mobil and exxon right now. I am doing it right now


Originally posted by revrnd@Aug 29 2005, 11:23 AM
I for 1 refuse to buy anything other than gas @ their stations. If I want pop or snacks I go to a convenience store.
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I pay at the pump. Never go in.

Originally posted by mlabudda@Aug 29 2005, 11:20 AM
Jim, sounding a little hypocritical there with the drive 4,000 miles thing. I drive fast in my V8, so what. Unless you drive a hybrid, don&#39;t have more then a 10 minute commute to work, don&#39;t use the AC and buy only things that have not been shipped, leave the fast drivers alone. To many variables to say one person is better then another when it comes to fuel consumption. Sorry, I just hate it when I am told how to drive and ridiculed for it.
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Budda, where am I hypocritical??? :dazed: Please explain. Apparently you didn&#39;t read my complete post. If you want to drive fast with your V8, great for you. But if you&#39;re also one of the people complaining about fuel prices, then that is hypocrisy at it&#39;s finest. I don&#39;t think anyone has told you how to drive, or ridiculed you for it.

Originally posted by JIM FRITCH@Aug 29 2005, 01:58 PM
Budda, where am I hypocritical???* :dazed:* Please explain.* Apparently you didn&#39;t read my complete post.* If you want to drive fast with your V8, great for you.* But if you&#39;re also one of the people complaining about fuel prices, then that is hypocrisy at it&#39;s finest.* I don&#39;t think anyone has told you how to drive, or ridiculed you for it.
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You drive 4,000 miles for work, there is no way that you can find an alternative to putting on all those miles? If you are talking in one month there is $1,620 @ 0.405 cents reimbursable. They can&#39;t hire someone else and have another person in addition to you. What about a video phone? (Not sure exactly your occupation) that is what I meant.

I don&#39;t like paying high prices but we are still one of the lowest countries when it comes to $, so we really have no right to complain. You eluded to the people flying down the highway and that they could help save by not going over 65, there are a million ways to better fuel economy is all I am saying, there is no need to point fingers at anyone. Even the Pickle people in Paradise Mi drive a gas guzzling van clunker to town when they "trade" for the few things they need.

No intentional animosity intended here Jim, although I know that this all could be read that way, that is the problem with reading type. Just wanted you to be aware of that.

Being an oil addicted nation in constant need of a fix and inspiring the rest of the world to follow suit; I wonder how long it will be before the first hydrogen powered snowmobile hits the market?

Imagine breathing air you can&#39;t see; what a concept!

Then there is nuclear energy; oh yes, that concept worked well too.......
Anyone interested in purchasing any nuclear waste? There having a clearance sale........

Solar energy; we only use 4% of that natural resource. I wonder why?
I got it, the sun has not sent any PAC money or lobbyists to Washington DC.

Ah for know we should just call it; Bush&#39;s Saudi-America and the Alaska destruction team. What&#39;s one more destroyed environment among oil friends anyway?

We will spend 50 million dollars on road and bridge infrastructure in Alaska which will be good for the economy.......
After extracting the minerals and refining them for energy consumption, crude prices will magically fall to $15.00 per Barrel..........YEA RIGHT!

Originally posted by mlabudda@Aug 29 2005, 01:13 PM
No intentional animosity intended here Jim, although I know that this all could be read that way, that is the problem with reading type. Just wanted you to be aware of that.
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Don&#39;t worry, never took it that way. You&#39;ve been posting for a while, so I didn&#39;t think you were coming from that direction. Believe me, I wish I didn&#39;t have to travel that much...it gets tiring and I pay for the gas out of my pocket and write it off at the end of the year. Since the gas prices started rocketing, I traded my Park Avenue for a car that averages 33 mpg&#39;s, not something I wanted to do as I&#39;m a tall guy and the Buick ride was great for the miles I drive. Whether my boss likes it or not, I&#39;m only heading out on the road 4 days/week now instead of 5, so that will help a little. Other than that, I really have no choice as I&#39;m a rep for a lender, usually competing with 7-14 other companies at each of my clients. My territory is the southern 2/3&#39;s of Illinois.

The point I was trying to make is that people need not gripe about something w/out trying to help themselves, that&#39;s all.

our fuel prices are cheaper, true but very misleading. overseas they get a nice break on their taxes for driving diesels and 60 percent or more of the vehicles driven there are diesels. I can get the facts back in a couple days on how many and their tax. they have a huge tax they pay that doubles with the size of the engine :confused: , thus the tiny 1.9 diesel looks very attractive, and beats the gov with the tax break. how much is the price of diesel where your getting your gas prices from? thats what most of them are burning and getting 30 percent better economy doing it, why not here? streching the oil farther running diesel and better torque :thumbsup: hydrogen, we will not see that in production cars in my lifetime let alone sleds, cost restricted. hmmm I see myself going to a article that was written by a very respected guy Kevin Cameron in one of the past issues of the tdr, I shall try and post it for all to read, be better than my thoughts even though they are the same.

I partake in not buying gas most everyday, I ride my bicycle to work year around! I drive 3-5000 miles a year but I still pay for consumer goods as much as the next guy.
I think it is good someone wants to get something going besides sitting on their hind-ends!
I believe this gas crunch is a hoax. If we are so bad off why are the gas stations ALWAYS FULL?
Why have fuel efficient carbs been destroyed by the oil barrons?
I personally know a guy that worked at the GM proving grounds back in the 70&#39;s that tested a V-8 carb engine that got 50+mpg only to see it destroyed buy the top brass.
Greed yes, not so much by the consumer but buy the filthy rich!

Originally posted by Mikadoo@Aug 29 2005, 06:29 PM

Why have fuel efficient carbs been destroyed by the oil barrons?
I personally know a guy that worked at the GM proving grounds back in the 70&#39;s that tested a V-8 carb engine that got 50+mpg only to see it destroyed buy the top brass.
Greed yes, not so much by the consumer but buy the filthy rich!
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I think if you do some research on these magic carbs, a lot of it is bull. There is only so many BTUs of energy in a gallon of gas & the internal combustion engine wastes most of that energy.

Originally posted by revrnd@Aug 29 2005, 07:14 PM
I think if you do some research on these magic carbs, a lot of it is bull. There is only so many BTUs of energy in a gallon of gas & the internal combustion engine wastes most of that energy.
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story the other day was 80&#39;s caddy got 2500 miles. to a tank. I am with revrnd, and till you have proof of differant. not the he said either.

Even if everyone took one day to not buy gas, the price would not go down....
the very next day the stations would be full of people getting the gas they were going to buy the day before. And that is not just in the USA.

As far as Americans being unwilling to change their lifestyles, I could buy a more fuel efficient car. Then what would I tow my sled to the UP with to do my part to keep those people in business during the winter months when ATV&#39;s and hunters are not supporting them.
On the other hand I know my sled gets worse gas mileage (by about 6mpg) and burns alot more oil than my truck. Obviously not more gas over the course of a year, but definately more during sledding season. So, I guess we all need to change to 4 stroke sleds or get rid of them as well since they are NOT required consumption for MOST of the users.
Also, I know that the US uses more petroleum than most, but remember there are alot more people w/vehicles in the US than Mexico, Japan, Canada or anywhere else. I just don&#39;t think it&#39;s right to be busting the chops of the USA about EVERYTHING.
Not that I&#39;m a supporter of the current admin or anything, but it is not totally the fault of the government either.
There is a "gas guzzler" tax on cars like mustangs and such.

with the way prices are you would have to either be an idiot or near empty to fill up today anyway.

I think I will siphon from my sled today, or the wifes car :undercover:

it will be fun this winter buying high priced heating oil,and play toys and vehicle fuel... I need a wood stove :blush:

doubt anyone is buying gas today. it is $4.55 gallon in Lansing, MI

as for the diesel drivers who think they have it great, just an FYI.....

My field inspector just called me, the contractor is pulling out at the end of the day for an undecided amount of time. The reason, he can not locate any diesel fuel to keep the machinery going, his best estimate from companies was 1 month. So you better top off your tanks cuz there might not be much to go around soon.

EDIT: source was wrong (thankfully) it is only 3.49 in lansing

$3.39/gal. at the stations I drove by on my way to work this morning here in Grand Rapids, MI.

Originally posted by 600EdgeGuy@Aug 31 2005, 10:24 AM
Even if everyone took one day to not buy gas, the price would not go down....
the very next day the stations would be full of people getting the gas they were going to buy the day before.* And that is not just in the USA.

As far as Americans being unwilling to change their lifestyles, I could buy a more fuel efficient car.* Then what would I tow my sled to the UP with to do my part to keep those people in business during the winter months when ATV&#39;s and hunters are not supporting them.
On the other hand I know my sled gets worse gas mileage (by about 6mpg) and burns alot more oil than my truck.* Obviously not more gas over the course of a year, but definately more during sledding season.* So, I guess we all need to change to 4 stroke sleds or get rid of them as well since they are NOT required consumption for MOST of the users.
Also, I know that the US uses more petroleum than most, but remember there are alot more people w/vehicles in the US than Mexico, Japan, Canada or anywhere else.* I just don&#39;t think it&#39;s right to be busting the chops of the USA about EVERYTHING.
Not that I&#39;m a supporter of the current admin or anything, but it is not totally the fault of the government either.
There is a "gas guzzler" tax on cars like mustangs and such.
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not true I still have not stopped for fuel. if you stop for fuel every day you must drive too much, or are not smart enough to buy enough the first time.

"not true I still have not stopped for fuel. if you stop for fuel every day you must drive too much, or are not smart enough to buy enough the first time."

Ok so you bought your share the day before....the point is that sooner or later they will sell you gas.

Energy companies are making record profits. They are not just passing along higher costs, they are making higher margins.

I realize this isn&#39;t going to happen, but the way to send a message is to buy less fuel. We can do so by simply slowing down.

This past Monday I took my wife and kids to visit family members that live approx. 100 miles from my house. Out of curiosity I set my cruise at 65 instead of 78 and check my mileage. My fuel economy improved by 20%. My 200 mile round trip took about 1/2 hour longer. ( 15 min each way) Not a big deal.

If everybody could slow down and see similar improvements in economy, I&#39;ll bet you would see prices fall.

But like I said, I&#39;m sure it will never happen . . . at least not voluntarily.

Do you remember the 55 MPH national speed limit?

Ken.

We did the same thing this past weekend while taking a trip.. we drove just under 400 miles 198 each way.. We slowed our speed down to 60 instead of 70 and we did in fact save gas. I will now admit that we were not thinking of anything but our own wallet in this effort , but, the fact remains we kept a little cash and we saved some fuel at the same time.

Generally speaking, long term prices will be driven by supply and demand. Refineries are at maximum capacity and we in North America are consuming all they can make. A refinery glitch that may cause a 5% reduction in capacity will drive up prices dramatically. If everyone slowed down and reduced demand by 10%, prices would at least stabilize.

But like I said earlier, most people won&#39;t slow down.

AS Dooman said in a post the Cummins gets its best mileage at 70-75mph(approx 20mpg) I try to keep it at that speed when i can. On a side note the propane guy came to fill my tank a couple days ago. I had ordered it before the NO incicdent so I was scared as to what the price might of jumped to. I asked him before he even stepped out of the truck if the price had gone up. TO my delight he said not a penny, in fact I payed less than i did last year at this time. 51.9 cents a litre or a $1.96 a US gal.

Perm

Originally posted by Ken F@Sep 6 2005, 08:25 PM
But like I said earlier, most people won&#39;t slow down.
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most people wont turn off there AC either.

The "people need to slow down to conserve" theory is really tiring.

Originally posted by mlabudda@Sep 7 2005, 12:23 PM
most people wont turn off there AC either.

The "people need to slow down to conserve" theory is really tiring.
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when they make a prius that will pull my sled`s up north through 2 feet of snow i will be first in line. M

Originally posted by snofrog@Sep 7 2005, 10:11 PM
when they make a prius that will pull my sled`s up north through 2 feet of snow i will be first in line. M
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amen to that

Originally posted by snofrog@Sep 7 2005, 10:11 PM
when they make a prius that will pull my sled`s up north through 2 feet of snow i will be first in line. M
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do you drive a diesel? they do make those that get better mpg towing than what most use. the jeep liberty was looking good the other day with the diesel in it. get 2-3 mpg better than the wifes buick. so no you will not buy a prius to get you there, as you will not buy the most effiecient one now. heck the diesel itself will save you 30 percent of your fuel consumption. only time a gasser is pulling me around is the bike at 40 mpg I cannot go wrong. any other time you see doo on the fly I am burning less fuel than you, cause if I ain&#39;t you will only see smoke :lmao:

Originally posted by dooman@Sep 9 2005, 10:23 PM
do you drive a diesel? they do make those that get better mpg towing than what most use. the jeep liberty was looking good the other day with the diesel in it. get 2-3 mpg better than the wifes buick. so no you will not buy a prius to get you there, as you will not buy the most effiecient one now. heck the diesel itself will save you 30 percent of your fuel consumption. only time a gasser is pulling me around is the bike at 40 mpg I cannot go wrong. any other time you see doo on the fly I am burning less fuel than you, cause if I ain&#39;t you will only see smoke :lmao:
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Diesel 4-6 grand right off the top above a gas vehicle same same make model (truck) liberty i dont know
twice as much for oilchanges
stink
rattle
and there is the 30 below midnight snow shuffle looking for the extension cord to plug it in
anti gell fuel conditioner
two battery`s to replace
and the rest of the parts are so hd they all cost twice as much as gas
i had 213000 on my ford Diesel when i got rid of it
if i were to just look at mpg`s alone the diesel looks like a bargain but to look at the big picture imho no

i will stick with the bike in the summer and bite the bullet in the winter

I stand by my opinion, you will not trade for a vehicle that gets better mpg. so you should take that statement back :wink: . yes the diesel does have costs, but last time I checked they had 25 percent less parts in them as well. like you said got rid of your diesel it had 200+ thousand, find a gasser that will go the distance.if you are going to put 115,000 miles on it the diesel will pay for itself(all costs included). while doing it you used less fuel to cover the same distance pulling more load. :thumbsup: