:) Hello !


This is a custom creation by :
Crikside Cats in Steinbach, Manitoba, Canada.

The custom work was done by technician Adam Crookes.
He removed several inches of metal from the tunnel, part of the rear storage rack, installed a 121" skid frame and track and trimmed the graphics to match this sleds athletic appearance.

The craftsmanship is really top notch.

Maybe this is the future Fire Cat

..Why not with a Polaris 15" * 128" track :inlove: :inlove:

Nice! But I have to ask, Why?

Nice! But I have to ask, Why?
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SOme people just gotta be different. I can't imagine taking a brand new Cross fire and short tracking it, but I imagine it will be really nice on the trails. Sort of a modern ZR.

That is the exact sled I'm waiting for AC to build..............I'll take mine in black with orange graphics please and yes dump in the F8 while yer at it.

That sled looks awesome. But like ZR84EVR asked, why? I guess there will always be people that want nothing but 121". But after riding 121"s for 20 years and then stretching my ZR to 136", and experiencing no setbacks in handling, I personally don't see the need for the shorter skid. I ride 90% trails and still favor the 136". I think if more people had the opportunity to try a Crossfire-type sled, they would also realize the benefits. Unfortunately, this sport doesn't make it practical to try different setups.

I'm with Rick on this one... make that 2 and I will drive to AC to get them ok?? LOL

Sign me up too!
Everyone says the longer track is the way to go, but since I don't think I have ever really gone off trail, and many of the trails that I do ride are barely wide enough to get two sleds through side by side, the 121 is perfct for me.
Everything that I ever see for trail signs say'winding trail ahead' and the guys that I ride with that have long tracks have alot harder time throwing them through the corners than my little 121.
Oh, and I will take mine in orange with black graphics!

If they build it - I will come.

Vman

Odd's are if he waited until January he'd have been able to save a lot of skinned knuckles and just picked one up at his local AC dealer. 2007 Early Release BushFire. LOL

Sign me up for 2 please !! Wait... no reverse yet for the diamond drive so.. Ill wait a bit longer.

Sign me up for 2 please !! Wait... no reverse yet for the diamond drive so.. Ill wait a bit longer.
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No problem... They can simply add electronic reverse to it, as used by Ski Doo and polaris.

No problem... They can simply add electrinic reverse to it, as used by Ski Doo and polaris.
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Cant cannot get the patent for the electric reverse. From what I understand polaris only received the rights to it via some court case win. There is an aftermarket company making them though. I read up on them a while ago, however you have to shut the sled off... switch a switch... pull a lever or something on the starter recoil so it starts it in reverse.. start it in reverse... move your sled where you want it.. then do it all again but setting the switches and lever into regular start mode... Um.. lil too much work for me. Ill stick with my chaincase sleds and mechanical reverse please.

Ya I see them going to the 15x128x 1.25 track that Poo uses this year in there classics

wonder if there is anything out there that cat has a patent on that polaris is interested in,,,, that reverse would be a nice trade off,,,

bushfire,,,, LOL

wonder if there is anything out there that cat has a patent on that polaris is interested in,,,, that reverse would be a nice trade off,,,

bushfire,,,, LOL
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Yeah, The entire sled! hehe. Just kidding.
w00t

I'm not 100% on this, but isn't part of the reason for no reverse on Diamond drive because of the secondary clutching that Cat uses? Can a Cat Roller Secondary be run in reverse?
Or is there a different type of secondary on a Diamond drive system?

From the article I saw, reverse is there... just having a space issue and iron out some of the bugs. The actuator is too big and needs to be slimmed down to fit in that little area.
Cross your fingers!!

I'm not 100% on this, but isn't part of the reason for no reverse on Diamond drive because of the secondary clutching that Cat uses? Can a Cat Roller Secondary be run in reverse?
Or is there a different type of secondary on a Diamond drive system?
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The secondary clutch can be run in reverse. The helix design permits thixs. I also run a Hyper Lite secondary on my Doo and it basically uses Cat Helix's but with a slight modification and it works just fine with my RER


I personally don't see the need for the shorter skid. I ride 90% trails and still favor the 136". [/b]
Lots of people say this Jim but after trying several 136ers I keep coming back to a short track. For just general trail riding most would be fine and may enjoy the ride more but I, and many others, spend considerable time in the air and running the ditch real hard and I just can't get used to the longer sled. I can feel the difference.

I would rather keep the 13.5 x 128 .....I find the work very well.

Good to know about the secondary Rob
Thanks

I'll have to ask Adam about that project, I know him quite well and that is the dealership I deal with.

The secondary clutch can be run in reverse. The helix design permits thixs. I also run a Hyper Lite secondary on my Doo and it basically uses Cat Helix's but with a slight modification and it works just fine with my RER
Lots of people say this Jim but after trying several 136ers I keep coming back to a short track. For just general trail riding most would be fine and may enjoy the ride more but I, and many others, spend considerable time in the air and running the ditch real hard and I just can't get used to the longer sled. I can feel the difference.
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Yes the new clutch can be run in reverse.
I agree on the long track comments, nice on the straights or deep snow or in the bumps but lack the tight trail manouverability of a 121" sled. I also think they feel alot like riding in a limo, kind of a rolling cigar sensation due to their length which makes me feel like they maybe should be wider (ski stance) than a conventional sled.

The Diamond Drive would be a nice trade for the reverse, as the two would seem to be perfect for each other.
Of course I can't see Polaris and Ski-Doo giving up the electronic reverse until they have too. It's a terrific selling feature and has got to be stealing sales from Cat.

The Diamond Drive would be a nice trade for the reverse, as the two would seem to be perfect for each other.
Of course I can't see Polaris and Ski-Doo giving up the electronic reverse until they have too. It's a terrific selling feature and has got to be stealing sales from Cat.
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Ski Doo did offer it to Cat but apparently what Doo wanted in return was way too much. You gotta remember Polaris got to use it because Doo infringed on patents that Polaris had on how they coupler the rear suspension. I'm told there is a reverse available for the D/D but it means you must shut the sled off and then select reverse at start up there by removing any and all possible infringments against whatever Doo may have. It does not turn the engine backwards though which means it will be a no issue with 4 strokes.

Rob, I'm pretty sure that the reverse you're talking about does turn the motor backwards, but uses the pull start to do it. Not sure about that though, but I know the motor does have to be shut down amd restarted in reverse, then sht down again to go in to forward.

Either way, too bad for Cat they don't have it. I'd love a Crossfire if they had E-Reverse.

Lots of people say this Jim but after trying several 136ers I keep coming back to a short track. For just general trail riding most would be fine and may enjoy the ride more but I, and many others, spend considerable time in the air and running the ditch real hard and I just can't get used to the longer sled. I can feel the difference.
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I hear ya Rob, I guess that's why they make both. What 136" sled did you have? I wonder if they were set up for you style. My riding buddy rides a ProX2 if that tells ya anything about how we ride...we're usually riding them hard. I'll say that I had a lot of push at first, but after adjusting the susp, I can honestly say that I haven't lost anything to my buddy on the trails. I can see how the little bit of extra length might affect you if you're running in and out of the deep ditches, changing direction quickly at the bottom of the ditch.

Same sled was posted on HCS or arcticchat, cant remember, but I will put my same respose.....should have left it a 136

I would rather keep the 13.5 x 128 .....I find the work very well.
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Stock up then because it's over all after 2006. The 13.5" that is.

I hear ya Rob, I guess that's why they make both. What 136" sled did you have? I wonder if they were set up for you style. [/b]
I compared my MX Z X to a Renegade X. I was able to take the 'Gade for a full week from a buddy that was going to be on vacation. I set it up for me and even swapped out clutching, springs and even shocks. Heck I even put my side panels and hood on his so it still looked like I was riding the same sled. It was good and I did enjoy it but when I got back on my sled it just made the difference that more more apparent to me. Again this is just for me and my riding style. While I haven't spend much time on them together I have also compared a Fire Cat Sno Pro to a Crossfire. Again I prefered the Fire Cat. Then again it was a Sno Pro and the suspension and shock valving was more to my liking. Now as new models come out this may change. And it would be interesting to test a Crossfire Sno Pro now. You do make an interesting point though about individual sled set up. This is very important for anyone. I've even found guys that I ride with don't have there sleds set up properly for them. This is very important.