Just venting here. I had my 93 Formula EFI on Ebay as many of you know. The other night the error code light came on and showed a week battery. I drove it around and the light went off. Well I got to thinking that I did not want to sell it in that condition so I decided to do the right thing and pull the seat, tank, and got to the battery. I charged it and let it sit outside for two days and had a load test done and battery was good. Got home from work today and put it back together about an hour before the auction was over. Started on the second pull and I let her warm up. Reved her up and shot out of the garage like a bullet. Got in the yard she lifted the front skis up got up to about 30 and it was like someone hit the kill switch :bash: . Before it completely died I gave it a little gas and it reved right back up. So I thought maybe I had some air in the gas line or something like that was messing with my EFI. I eased on the gas and made it about 30 yards and the same thing. Engine instantly almost died. Reved her up again and took off and this time it did die. It started right back up. I held the brake and reved it up and had no problems. As soon as I would drive it though it would die. Pulled it back into the garage and now it wont start at all. Its getting fuel and spark. I think it is something simple and I possibly have a fuel line pinched or something like that. So I go back into the house and get on Ebay. I was expecting to get about 1000.00 for the sled and it was up to 1275.00. I tried to edit the auction and it would not let me because it was to close to the end time. I tried to send every one who had bid an e-mail and let them know. Before I got all the emails out it bid up over 1300.00 and I had to send the winning bidder an email giving the bad news. Man I feel bad about this whole thing. I think I am just going to offer it at a way lower rate and sell it as is. I dont want to have to send it somewhere and pay to have it fixed. I also dont feel like draining the fuel and retracing my steps again either. Thanks for hearing my sob story and if you guys have any ideas/advise let me know

I guess it pays to be honest. I recieved a response from the winng bidder and was expecting the worse as you can expect. I had told that I would deliver the sled for 1.50 a mile. Again I had said I would be willing to take a low rate for the sled as is. The guy responded and said if I would drop the delivery fee ( about 100.00) he would still give me full price (1300.00) for the sled. He told me and is probably right that if it is running and was running the other day it cant be serious and he would fix it. As you can imagine my jaw about hit the floor. I guess my bad day just got a lot better. :D :D

My best guess as this just happened to me. There is water in the gas from condensation. You need to fill the tank up with fresh gas and some ISO 99% /gas line anti freeze. Try pouring a small amount of mixed /gas down the spark plug hole and give it a pull after adding the ISO and fresh fuel to tank. We had to doo this two or three time to get rid of any moisture that was i the cylinder so it would fire.

Hope this helps


Permafrost

This could be. The gas that was in the sled was over 6 months old so when I drained it I bought new gas and got rid of the old. Anyway I am sure in my heart it is something simple. I was just devasted when I had it sold and then it messed up.

I think both of you got a good deal

Ive made several post about this sled in the past. I am going to make a post in the Doo forum b/c I have had several people email me telling me not to sell this sled b/c it is rare and will be worth a lot of money in the future. Is there anyplace that shows production numbers by model so I will know how many were produced. I bought it from a deaer in 98 and paid 2200 for it so I was pleased to get 1300.00 after riding the sled for about 7 years.

No matter how rare it is it'll never be worth enough money to keep you from selling it if you need the money.

I had a similer thing happen to me a few years ago though when I was selling my 97 Cougar. Had a deal worked out, but I had told the guy I was going to the cabin for the weekend, and that he could have the sled on Sunday evening or Monday morning. Well Saturday night I lost the motor and had to get towed out. Needless to say, I lost the sale.

They know that you are selling them.
That's why they break just before they are sold.
They feel bad.
LOL!

An honest e-bayer is the best e-bayer. I was packing up a sattelite receiver I sold on e-bay , and desided to test it before shipping , to my suprise the front display screen would not come on . I had to send the bad news to the buyer , as apposed to the non-functioning machine . He appreciated my honesty , and there were no hard feelings . You did good , I would deal with you through e-bay any day . :thumbsup:

Refreshing to hear your honesty :D , puts faith in e-bay as well as people in general!
I would much rather have it break down on me, regardlesss of the cost as apposed to selling an item and being called every foul name there is :(

:bash: I had an incident back in 1972 with a 67 Camaro. I sold the car to a guy I worked with. He had given me a deposit till he paid the balance. Stupid me decides to give it one last pass . I put on the slicks, opened up the headers and went to the street we all raced on. I revved it up, dumped the clutch and KAABAAM. Now I start with the language I"m fluent in (swear) and proceed to check it out. The rear end spun on the u-bolts, broke the drive-shaft and boy I felt ill. I had the springs re-arced previously and I guess they didn"t tighten the bolts enough. Well the guy still bought the car but I had to knock a pile of cash off. It"s hard to control but don"t try it before they buy it! :bash: :bash: :bash:

Everyone that I had talked with said this was one of two scenarios. Either a mechanic that knew he could fix this sled easily or someone who realized this sled was rare and buying it as a possible "investment". Well both are wrong. I delivered this sled yesterday and the gentleman who bought it told me he has never owned a sled before in is life and does not ride. So I thought maybe he was the mechanical type and going to fix it to sell it. I told him what I thought was wrong with the sled and he said he would "change the oil and the gas" and maybe it would run better. I said you know it a two stroke and he said yes. Then again he said he panned on changing the gas, plugs, and OIL. He then told me that he has worked on a couple of lawn mowers before and he could probably fix a sled. I did not want to insult the person so I was trying to convince him that a local dealer could probably find the problem and fix it cheaper then he could do it himself. He then said he knows where their is a ski-doo dealership and asked if a dealership will work on sleds or not. I kept thinking to myself that he could have bought a lot of sleds that were cheaper then mine and actually running. I then explained to him what I thought was wrong with the sled and he might need to remove the seat/gas tank. He looked down and said " the seat will come off of this thing?" He did not know how to raise the hood, and he thinks he will diagnose and fix an oil injected fuel injected twin cylinder snowmobile. The entire thing just had me baffled. I did get the sled to run and he said man I didn't know th engine was smoking. I agian said "well youll get that from a two stroke" and he said well maybe when it warms up it wont smoke, my lawn mowers dont smoke.

Everyone that I had talked with said this was one of two scenarios. Either a mechanic that knew he could fix this sled easily or someone who realized this sled was rare and buying it as a possible "investment". Well both are wrong. I delivered this sled yesterday and the gentleman who bought it told me he has never owned a sled before in is life and does not ride. So I thought maybe he was the mechanical type and going to fix it to sell it. I told him what I thought was wrong with the sled and he said he would "change the oil and the gas" and maybe it would run better. I said you know it a two stroke and he said yes. Then again he said he panned on changing the gas, plugs, and OIL. He then told me that he has worked on a couple of lawn mowers before and he could probably fix a sled. I did not want to insult the person so I was trying to convince him that a local dealer could probably find the problem and fix it cheaper then he could do it himself. He then said he knows where their is a ski-doo dealership and asked if a dealership will work on sleds or not. I kept thinking to myself that he could have bought a lot of sleds that were cheaper then mine and actually running. I then explained to him what I thought was wrong with the sled and he might need to remove the seat/gas tank. He looked down and said " the seat will come off of this thing?" He did not know how to raise the hood, and he thinks he will diagnose and fix an oil injected fuel injected twin cylinder snowmobile. The entire thing just had me baffled. I did get the sled to run and he said man I didn't know th engine was smoking. I agian said "well youll get that from a two stroke" and he said well maybe when it warms up it wont smoke, my lawn mowers dont smoke.
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Those kind of conversations will always leave you baffled. Same as a guy I work with who swears his buddy has a 2003 Polaris Formula 650, sometimes its best just to walk away :lmao: