What am i going to lose.or gain?

Gonna lose some
R
E
S
P
E
C
T
lol , couldn't help my self :devil:

It's always been dangerous being the guini pig that buys any first year sled.............RX-1 was far from perfect outta the box in spite of Yamaha's supposed initial quality reputation.

What am i going to lose.or gain?
[/b]

Have you alreday done the deal or are you looking for mind changing info? I can't comment on the AC as I haven't rode one. I was after an Apex but up here they price them almost out of site! Just couldn't justify the coin. :dazed:

well if i were you i would never switch from cat, cause then you are not welcome on this forum......................lol jk by the way did you buy that duster like that or did you have it done by a shop cause we did a duster at my work and it looked similar to yours

The Apex does not rail like a ZR.

Very similar power though.

I personally wouldn't trade as I like to run the twisties. But there is something to be said for the 4 stroke technology. Once they get the packaging nailed it will be the sled to compare.

I'd give it one more year before deciding. Today for me it would be a downgrade from a ZR 9.

man,,, rough crowd around here.
I really think yamaha hit a home run with this years line up, but you all know that cat isnt one to sit back and let everyone pass them by,,, they try to be the most agressive of all the big 4 with their advertising, and simply pushing the bar.
Cat didnt do much this year with their lineup,,,, so you know that there is something there,,, they are just waiting to spring it on us,,, I think they are taking a little more time to bring it to us because of the problems they had with the first firecats.
I know I wouldnt turn my back on cat right now as I have a funny feeling,,, MAN I CANT WAIT!!!

Have you alreday done the deal or are you looking for mind changing info? I can't comment on the AC as I haven't rode one. I was after an Apex but up here they price them almost out of site! Just couldn't justify the coin. :dazed:
[/b]





Looking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently the Apex is a great solid machine. I really don't think it would perform quite like the ZR9, but it will be a fast, smooth, quiet, vibration free ride. You'll get better fuel economy with the 4 stroke, and would have AMAZING top end speeds, as Yamaha's power bands just don't quit......they just keep going faster, and faster, and faster.......However, it won't have the wholeshot of your ZR9. Also, I know there is an optional turbo kit for the Apex, not sure if it's OEM or aftermarket though, but that should bring the sled's performance up to par. I have also heard some people weren't very impressed with the Yamaha ski's either, but I guess that's not a big deal. As far as cosmetics goes, I personally think that Yamaha FINALLY has a lineup of sleds that look as good as the Arctic Cat's. I think you'd like the Apex.
For more on the sled, check out Powderboy's (your friendly neighborhood Arctic Cat "die hard") thoughts and opinions in this thread he posted in the Yamaha section.....
http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forum/index...showtopic=58554 (http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=58554)

What am i going to lose.or gain?
[/b]

I just got back into snowmobiling 2 years ago. I bought 2 new Rx1's 2004's I love them. they are really a smooth riding sled and not problems (yet) ! this fall I bought a new F7cat and a carry over 04 1M mountain cat and i traded one of my RX1's in for an Apex. I love the Yamahas on the trail. The Apex is a total different ride then my Rx1. The power is awesome. Get off the trail in some deep snow and i feel the weight. Try getting some big air and the front end is heavy. The cats are alot of fun to ride and a lot lighter feeling. If your riding in alot of powder or deeper snow I do not think you will like the apex. If you ride alot of trails and or harder packed snow you will love it.

The main reason i wanted to know was i ame sick of 9 miles to the gallon!!!Dealers say that is ok.Cant be right.What do you get????????? :bash:

............RX-1 was far from perfect outta the box in spite of Yamaha's supposed initial quality reputation.
[/b]

????? ....... I'd put a first year, 2003 RX1 straight out of the box, up against ANY sled from any other manufacturer as far as reliability goes....first year or not.
There were 2 dealer re-calls (for cosmetics).

i remember back in 03 when they compared the rx-1 to the zr 900 ,the zr 900 ate it up in all catagories,they said the rx-1 wasnt even compared to the zr 900 at all. :lmao: but now in 06 yamaha is back in black.

9 miles to the gallon!!!





9 miles to the gallon!!!

The main reason i wanted to know was i ame sick of 9 miles to the gallon!!!Dealers say that is ok.Cant be right.What do you get????????? :bash:
[/b]


9 mpg!

Carbed ZR900's can get upward of 15 mpg and always out-distance ZR800's.
9 must be in deeeeeep snow.

9 mpg!

Carbed ZR900's can get upward of 15 mpg and always out-distance ZR800's.
9 must be in deeeeeep snow.
[/b]




Not in deep snow.Doesnt make any Differences.on and off thethrottle or steady cruising. 9 MPG!!!!!! Cant be right

I ran 110 miles with phazerhater last weekend and heavy on the throttle! I filled up and put in 7.5 gallons. I have a gutted airbox and I was running 430 main jets. Temps were in the high 20's at 1000 feet. 14.6 MPG !!

me on my zr 900 and my buddy on his rx warrior went for a 100 mile run and he only beat me by 3 bucks. :cool:

maybe its time to send your computer back in to get reprogrammed,,, buddy of mine did a trip up north last year on his new f7 and got the same horrible mileage,,, he had the dealer go through it over and over and found nothing wrong,,, he was looking to trade it off and ended up having it remapped and I believe it solved his problem,,,,

maybe its time to send your computer back in to get reprogrammed,,, buddy of mine did a trip up north last year on his new f7 and got the same horrible mileage,,, he had the dealer go through it over and over and found nothing wrong,,, he was looking to trade it off and ended up having it remapped and I believe it solved his problem,,,,
[/b]



Remapped.who does that?The dealer?

I would be willing to guess Arctic Cat?

yeah, he works at the dealer, so they simply pulled it and sent it back to cat,,, they did the remap.

Apex forsure, it might be a little heavier but the power to weight ratio is there 998 cc's the thing is a powerhouse, and cat steering colomb is bolted to the damn engine witch makes the thing vibrate to hell when riding under 50km per hour, the cats technology is old but they have something coming, I would buy the apex or wait until cat comes out with there new model.

cat steering colomb is bolted to the damn engine witch makes the thing vibrate to hell when riding under 50km per hour[/b]

No its not...
:lmao:

sure it is,,, they run the exhaust through it to heat the handle bars,,, you know, that old technology!!!

w00t w00t

Thats why my hand warmers dont work...

:lmao: I have a 04 900 efi and I do not know what you are doing to get such crappy mileage, driving like a normal guy usally get 18 or so, you must get your box checked.

:lmao: I have a 04 900 efi and I do not know what you are doing to get such crappy mileage, driving like a normal guy usally get 18 or so, you must get your box checked.
[/b]




I went to another dealer today they said you didnt know what you were TALKING ABOUT!!!! no one gets that kind of mileage!!!!!!! dealers aint very good in my area getting sIck of being jerked around by THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bash: :bash: :bash:

9 MPG? Definitely something wrong there. Most likely causes would be valves stuck open, or a bad sensor causing it to run rich

I agree that 18 is definetly pushing it,,, but 9 is going too far the other way,,,, did you ask your dealer about having the computer remapped??

I went to another dealer today they said you didnt know what you were TALKING ABOUT!!!! no one gets that kind of mileage!!!!!!! dealers aint very good in my area getting sIck of being jerked around by THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bash: :bash: :bash:
[/b]


Like I said....Im getting 14MPG and im on the gas a lot! This is on an 03 ZR9 carbed sled... :D

Bad gass can get you bad mileage. I know a lot of the most northern Mom and Pop gas stations in ME buy a low grade gas. It's made from the sludge on the bottom of the oil tanks and sold as cheap gas. I dropped Fitch Catalyst so my fuel is always fresh and I went from 9-10 mpg to 12-13 mpg in my 800. I also pull my RAVEs every season to clean them and run synthetic oil only. Run clean, better mileage.
But I will admit, that Attack and APex has really caught my eye..making my wife very nervous I will buy one. No refilling of oil everyday!! Upper teens to low 20's for mpg. No smoke, even when cold. It's got me really thinking as well.....2001 SKi-doo 800 MXZ Adrenaline FOR SALE...LOL

I agree that 18 is definetly pushing it,,, but 9 is going too far the other way,,,, did you ask your dealer about having the computer remapped??
[/b]

He's from Canada, so he is probably talking about imperial gallons, which makes it a bit more believeable, but you would still have to be driving reallly mellow to do it.

Are you guys with the efi 900's running with the "mtbe gas" plug on the ecu unplugged ? Should get better mileage with this plugged in but how much leaner does the engine run with this plugged in? I have been running mine unplugged and getting around 12 mph. :confused:

Keep the zr 900 !

What am i going to lose.or gain?
[/b]



My buddy did the same thing last year,
He had a 03 ZR900 with a PSI 1080 in it that he sold and bought a new Apex.
He then took $8500 with him to Bender and dropped it off and had them redo it and put a turbo on it.
He just ordered the newCat F 1000 a few months ago and is selling the Apex if you are interested???