Something that I haven't seen yet is a comment on these new Shaper bars. IMO, I think they are a waste of money because I have seen in the past where the steel along the carbide will wear away & leave the steel closer to the actual ski intact.

W/ this new design, once the steel wears away beside the carbide & leaves the narrow profile below the carbide, the runner is basically weakened & worn out.

Any other thoughts?

Haven't had a set myself, but someone told me that they were pretty fast.

I can imagine them working *well but wearing out very quickly.

How about the new Woody' Dooly's? *How do you think they will work? *I would love to elimnate some darting.

Dooleys are a great idea but twice the cost of regular carbides.

Jim

My first thought when I saw them was more money for less steel. From my trail rider perspective, that missing metal might be the difference in making it home without loosing the wearbar completely and running on a bare ski after one of those 250 mile runs....

Give me the Woody's with 1/2" bar stock and 3/8" studs any day...

AL

I see where you guys are coming from, and I guess I wouldn't buy a set of shaper bars, till I hear/read some more comments on them........
I've looked at them closely at a couple shows this fall *and they are made pretty heavy duty, the *steel square stock is pretty good size...... From a marketing perspective they should be pushing a bunch of them at a pre season 1/2 price kickoff deal or something like that to get some out there if there really that good! I guess time will tell us how they really are!!!! *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif *DooZ.........

The Woody's duallys interested me right up to the point I heard the price. I'll put up with the darting, too expensive.

The shaper bars work very well in the loose snow. It's too earlier to tell about wear. It's mainly designed to be used on the Snowcross track.

Studboy carbides have always lasted a LONG time for me..

Speaking of stud boy, Anyone use there studs. I've always used fast-trac but got a deal on the stud boys ay a shoe this weekend I couldn't pass up. I hope they hold up alright. ???

are they not a sharper carbie, ie they work better right away ,but get dull faster.