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: Xlt 94 gearing


fortress
02-04-2002, 10:34 AM
HI ! SOmeone of you know the stock gearing of an XLT 94http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?

Xtra Lite Triple
02-04-2002, 06:20 PM
i'm guessing here but guy told me that 97 XLT has a 21-39.I dunno if thats even right but if anyone else reads this can you help me with what gears the standard 97 XLT has

xltboy
02-04-2002, 07:59 PM
A 94 XLT is 21/39. A 97 XLT is the same.

xltboy

fortress
02-04-2002, 09:24 PM
What will be the effect on my sled if i have a 22/41 gear ratio on my XLT http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?? (Notice that i have a speed problem on it)

SNORAT
02-04-2002, 09:32 PM
what is the problem first before you go gearing it there might be something else wrong ie clutching ,carbs.etc.

fortress
02-04-2002, 09:52 PM
hi! SNorat. Nothing else is wrong. I have already posted about this problem. People helped me but we didnt find a problem. Clutch is ok, driven ok, carbs ok, compression ok Track ok. The only thing im not sure is about the gearing. If i remember well, my dealer said to me that i have a 22/41 gear ratio and i see that all XLT have a 21/39. What is the effect of this??? Is my sled can just reach no more than 85mph with 34mm carb http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Dont think so.....

SNORAT
02-04-2002, 10:04 PM
22/41 gear ratio is 1.863 and a 21/39 gear ratio is 1.857 so their is not much of a dif in ratio actually the 22/41 should be just as fast or faster since Polaris like to over gear their sleds any way ,also with the bigger gears you will have less parasitic lose of hp since it is easier to pull a chain over a bigger gear than a smaller gear. so I think you have a problem else wear. Wear do you live ? If you are close enough I can maybe help you out better.

fortress
02-04-2002, 10:28 PM
Re Snorat..

* * *Thx for your Help. Well i live in Quebec..probably far away from you eheh. Well can you tell me with no doubt that this 98 XLT Limited with Xtra 12 and 34 mm can go faster than 85mph??? I have asked this question to people and they said yes but why i cant http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif? *why http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif? Like i said this Sled was serviced 3 times for trying to find something wrong. So if you said that the gear ratio is good, well im frustrated... Do you have a solution Sno?http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

i Forgot this , compression is 115 in each cylinders, maybe a little low??? A friend of mine said to me to try sanding the clutch cuz maybe i have belt slippage but my two clutch arent hot after a ride, just the Belt.....(sorry for my bad english im french)

liquid600
02-05-2002, 12:09 AM
Fortress,

I have *a 1994 XLT and i am getting 115 across all three cylinders and mine will do about 92mph; it has 6400 miles on her.

I plan on changing out the top end and have the crank and bearings rebuilt.

fortress
02-05-2002, 01:02 PM
What i can do if i want to have more top speed http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif it is not by changing gearing??? (without adding piping etc..)

SNORAT
02-05-2002, 06:36 PM
I', working on a solution but I have to ask,how far are the clutches shifting out after a ful throttle run and what are your topend rpms also does it have a clutch kit in it or has somebody done any clutching to it.
Too check the first question run a marker line from the outer edge of the clutch down to the shaft on one of the sheaves and take it for a rip after your run look to see how much of the line is left on the clutch.

fortress
02-05-2002, 09:21 PM
Hi Snorat!!! Again, thx for your help guys...

When i first bought this sled, he had a clutch kit on it and i was reaching 85 mph but on a long distance. I have put back the Stock clutch kit cuz i was thinking the speed problem was this. With the stock clutch, my speed is the same except i reach 85 mph more quickly. The mark on the clutch is worn off except 1/4 inch. My RPM is 8000. Clutch, driven Clutch and Carbs is all stock.

* * * I have try to losen the Track as much as possible but not better... I have try yesterday another Spring in my primary Clutch *for have a little more RPM (about 8100) but no results. Trying to Change Preload on the Driven Clutch Spring without any change on the top speed

fortress
02-06-2002, 04:04 PM
Wow, I have call 7 Polaris Dealer. No one say the same thing. 4 said that 85 mph is correct and the other said i should reach 90 minimum. I cant trust the dealer...

SNORAT
02-06-2002, 06:22 PM
This sled is not considered a high perf machine,it is considered a trail cruiser that is why it has the smaller carbs for gas milage also the xtra 12 will slow them down.I'm not sure but I think you should be pulling more rpm such as 8500 to 8700 top end.what is the secondary have for a helix in it and what spring is in it? You say the carbs are fine did you have the needles and seats checked as a leaking needle and seat will give it toomuch fuel and you will see a lose of speed.
What kind of asessories are on this sled.
Also soften the suspension up a bit and let it sag with you on it this can also help.
The xlt special with the x12 was not too much faster at around 95 to 100 on the speedo and the special had the high port motor with the 38 carbs and a bit higher compression.

If I can think of anything else I will let you know.

ps try tightening up the secondary spring to the next hole this might help some also droping 1 tooth on the top gear might help you get into the overdrive of the clutch as you are only getting into a 1to1 ratio

fortress
02-06-2002, 07:13 PM
The Helix is an 32 angle and the spring is Stock. This Sled dont have accessories like reverse. I have try what you said about the suspension. Is the Front Strap limiter can cuz this problem if not properly adjusted??? I have already tried different hole on the secondary spring...

The Limited and Special are Liquid Cooled Piston Port. The only thing different is the 38mm Carbs

SNORAT
02-06-2002, 07:53 PM
The dif is in the port hight as the limited is the low port which is better for bottomend for trail cruising and the special is the same as the 97 xc 600 which is a high port for better top hp both are piston port.If you are willing to spend some money get it ported and go with the 38 carbs with the special specs also billet heads for pump fuel to boost compression a bit.Also I perfered the t11 helix on this motor as it would pull harder on the bottom and still have close to the same shift on top end and also run the light blue spring in the primary not the gold or the dark blue.I will check my manuel to see what the operating rpm should be for this machine because I think it is to low.
Will keep you posted.
......SNORAT......

fortress
02-06-2002, 08:05 PM
RE Sno. Thx for the precision about the engine. Im already use a Blue Spring in the primary Clutch. I have put this spring Monday. I have adding about 100 RPM.


Well, the conclusion its that this Sled can't go faster. I know that i can put money on it to have better performance. The thing im frustrated its cuz people who claimed that they have Stock XLT limited, reach 90 to 95 mph and like you know, i cant. Who say the truth http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif I will not spend my time trying to find a problem if i dont have a problem http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif)) *I have send several Email to people that sell her XLT on the net for trying to know what speed they reach. I hope i will have some answer tomorrow. Im very surprise that a Triple 600cc cannot reach 90 mph, really surprise, even if i have smaller carbs, hard to believe


Thx again for your Help SNo

Shaggz19
02-07-2002, 02:21 PM
I have a 93 XLT SKS with a studded track... 100% stock... and at a recent radar run I hit 93mph in 2000 feet on ice... I get over 90 mph very often...

fortress
02-07-2002, 03:54 PM
Do you have the smaller Carbs??? Which suspension???

SNORAT
02-13-2002, 08:57 PM
Stock clutching on a 98 xlt limited is
* *0-3000 ft
drive clutch........silver/gold spring,10m bushed weights

driven clutch.........red spring,34 deg helix #2 hole

* *gearing
22:41, 68 pitch chain.
*
* operating rpm
8000 +/- 200 rpm

* engament rpm
4200

This is right out of the Polaris sevice manual .

PolarisDave
02-14-2002, 10:03 AM
WHETHER YOU FALL OFF YOUR SLED AT 80MPH OR 95 MPH. YOU WILL BE LUCKY TO GET UP , SO WHAT IS YOUR HURRY. :-) ENJOY THE RIDE. I HAVE A 94 XLT I LONG TRACKED AND HAD TO REGEAR. I JUST CHANGED THE SMALL GEAR FROM A 21 TO A 18 AND I ALSO PUT A NEW BLUE DRIVE SPRING IN AND NOW IT IS LIKE A ROCKET ALL THE WAY TO 85MPH PLUS IT IS A GREAT CLIMBER NOW TO. GOOD LUCK

fortress
02-14-2002, 02:01 PM
Well i have 10M/5 Weight on it. My dealer said that its the same weight, So, what's the difference?http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

BLOB
09-12-2002, 12:04 AM
Hi Guys I have owned xlt's all my life and I race one in Improved Stock 600 class and I am going 108 mph in 1000 ft. *I love my xlt's and I would not own anything but an XLT, *you cant buy a cooler stock sounding single pipe sled. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

BLOB
09-13-2002, 12:09 AM
If you want to go a little faster at top speed without causing a problem, go to a 37 tooth 13 wide sprocket on the bottom, you will not have to change the chain it will fit just right in, do not change the top *sprocket because then your gear ratio will be to much for a stock motor to pull. http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

BLOB
09-13-2002, 12:18 AM
I forgot to mention that 21 top and 39 bottom sprockets are on a stock 94 xlt. if you want to make it even faster go to a gold primary spring and 10mr weights and a 94 storm secondary helix and a blue spring, then hang on! http://www.snowmobileworld-s2.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Mikadoo
09-17-2002, 09:00 PM
That extra 12 is the power robber. I believe they only made them for a couple of years. My buddy had one, it was pittifully slow, it also ate a lot of hifax, the dealer even handed out 2 sets of new ones with the purchase of a sled.
115# of compression is low, should be 125-130. Watch your track and chain tention, to tight will rob you.....