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akrievins
02-18-2006, 09:26 PM
I've been talking about studding my track for a long time now, and have asked many of you for advice. Well, I finally got around to doing it.
I purchased 96 Studboy carbide studs off a guy on Totallyamaha.com. I got a great deal on these .875 studs, nuts, and backers. I got two old hockey sticks to use as tunnel protectors. I bought a 10 dollar drill bit, and used white out to mark the holes on the track. In total, I studden my track for 120 Canadian. I'd say this is a hell of a deal, although I did all of the labour.

Here are some of the pics.
Dropped the skid, took off the seat.
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Riveted hockey sticks in as protectors
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12 of the 96 studs installed. I liked this pattern best, and it looks really agressive!
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A picture of my work area. It was a few degrees above freezing this day so I spent about 6 hours doing this job with the help of my bro. The Phazer looks crazy with the seat off and the suspension dropped!
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Let me know what you all think.

Averagesleder
02-18-2006, 09:54 PM
Hey it looks good. Did you clean up the rust spot on the top of your tunnel?

akrievins
02-18-2006, 11:08 PM
Hey it looks good. Did you clean up the rust spot on the top of your tunnel?
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I think that was just some rust from the staples on the seat. I also re-did that as the plywood was rotten. The tunnel is aluminum, so that doesn't rust itself.

Yamahammer
02-19-2006, 12:15 AM
Good job on that, especially after youv been contemplating over them for a while.

You must have got a template for your studs eh, and you knew where to place the protectors, Awsome!

Your gunna love these studs, I cant believe people ride without them, a sled is pathetic without them, unless all you want to do is spin out and make a big roost. Even people who arent the last bit aggresive will benefit from studs.

My buddies Exciter had the same seat issue, stupid plywood! Looked the exact same too, all rusty and junk, which doesnt make sense from looking at it because the tunnel is aluminum.

zr580cat
02-19-2006, 01:30 PM
Good job! Did you do it all right there, outside?

akrievins
02-19-2006, 02:18 PM
Good job! Did you do it all right there, outside?
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I sure did.
I did it right where I store the sleds. Under our boat port at the cottage. There was power there for the drill, and I just took my time. It was pretty much a full day job with the protectors and all.

CORY9
02-19-2006, 05:03 PM
Good Job!!!!

Love the hockey stick trick, would have never thought of that :thumbsup:

Have you taken the sled for a ride yet? Should find a big difference on the ice and hardpacked trails, especially in the corners.

puree
02-20-2006, 10:09 AM
you did a great job,,,, but you REALLY need to get yourself a garage. I used to do all my work on the back patio (outside wide open) and now I have a nice garage to work in. Man, its actually fun to tinker now!!!

materman
02-20-2006, 02:38 PM
Wicked, Im about to do the same thing but was waiting for more info..

I have looked at teh tunnel protectors however was going to ask in a post here,
why couldnt I just use old hockey sticks or something.

Is that the spot they should go?right where the sliders would sit in the track?

Would 3 be better mine bottums out alot!! mabee one down the centre??

What did you use to drill the holes with?

Im wondering if I should put them on my old track till I get a new one then
take them off and put them on the new one.

Its all ice here now! I was out a bit on thursday last week and scared the crap out of myself..

Sideways at 70 mph is spookey!!

How did you attach the sticks to the top of the tunnel just nut and bolt?

I aswell have been thinking of doing this for a long time..

I do have wicked pics of my skid rebuild , however I cant get them off the cammera..lol

Will try tonight to get them posted, are you just sending them threw full size,
does this site create the thumnails??

Kick ### post man now Im ready to try this for sure!!!
Anyone had any idea how many studds I should get its a short track, like 116 I think!!
materman

Octane
02-20-2006, 07:25 PM
This is kinda after the fact, but 96 is really more studs than that sled needs.
I wouldnt have gone with any more than 48.
Oh well, at least you dont have to worry about it not hooking up.

akrievins
02-21-2006, 01:17 AM
This is kinda after the fact, but 96 is really more studs than that sled needs.
I wouldnt have gone with any more than 48.
Oh well, at least you dont have to worry about it not hooking up.
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I did a great deal of research on this, and I heard many different stories. Some suggest 48, some 72, and some 96. The Royal distributing guide specifically states that the Phazer can take 96 for aggressive trail riding, 72 for regular. I figured 96 would be okay to lessen the chance of too much pressure on too few studs. Under studding is not very good eihter, and I have a good deal of carbides up front. I should be okay. I did think about 48 though, thanks. I'll see how it handles on the trails this weekend.

akrievins
02-21-2006, 01:29 AM
Wicked, Im about to do the same thing but was waiting for more info..

I have looked at teh tunnel protectors however was going to ask in a post here,
why couldnt I just use old hockey sticks or something.

Is that the spot they should go?right where the sliders would sit in the track?

Would 3 be better mine bottums out alot!! mabee one down the centre??

What did you use to drill the holes with?

Im wondering if I should put them on my old track till I get a new one then
take them off and put them on the new one.

Its all ice here now! I was out a bit on thursday last week and scared the crap out of myself..

Sideways at 70 mph is spookey!!

How did you attach the sticks to the top of the tunnel just nut and bolt?

I aswell have been thinking of doing this for a long time..

I do have wicked pics of my skid rebuild , however I cant get them off the cammera..lol

Will try tonight to get them posted, are you just sending them threw full size,
does this site create the thumnails??

Kick ### post man now Im ready to try this for sure!!!
Anyone had any idea how many studds I should get its a short track, like 116 I think!!
materman
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Hey, I was contemplating it for a very long time as well. I wasn't sure if I would be able to do it, but it all worked out.

Hockey stick shafts work great! I'm guessing for much higher powered sleds and for sleds that are liquid cooled especially, you'd want the good aluminum protectors, but for the lower cc and fan cooled sleds, these do the same job. Many professionals have said it is fine.

2 is all you need, and you put them above the track wondow, essentially above the slider location. Don't put it in the centre. Lug height differences would make the other two useless.

I riveted the shafts into place. just drilled 10 or so holes into the tunnel and right into the hockey stick. First one is trickey, but once you have some rivets in, you can drill right in. Nuts and bolts would tear your track apart. notice that the rivets don't stick out the other side of the shaft.

For drilling the holes in the track, I bought a $10 5/16" track drill bit. You need this as a regular bit would make messy holes and rip out the cords in the track. The bit drills out a clean hole.

Good luck with it, and if you need any help... ask away. These guys on here are awesome! I got alot of help and advice on here too!

akrievins
03-01-2006, 11:59 PM
Well guys, after 400 kms on these studs I must say they area great! They are still in mint condition. They look like the day I put them on. I take it really easy when crossing roads and such, and I don't pin it from a stand still.
96 studs seem to be working out great, and there's no more "squirlly" business around corners on the trails.
Top end I've seen 120 kms so far, but it's been too rough on the lakes to test it out fully. Hooks up incredibly well on ice/hardpack. Under full throttle I do hear the track hit the protectors sometimes, but it's better than the studs hitting.