: Snowmobiles With No Title?
Ricks_SkiDoo 04-07-2006, 11:06 AM I live in Maine where we need NO TITLE on our snowmobiles or ATV's
what other states do not require Titles?
the reason I ask is Im selling my sled to more than likley will be an out of stater as its for sale on eBay!
I just want them to be clear that there is no title (in Maine) to my sled since it was new so they will not get one with the bill of sale! :confused:
No titles here in Wisconsin,just a registration card the size of a credit card.
I sold a trailer to a guy from Minnesota,there was no title or a V.I.N. on it anywhere.He had a helluva time getting a title which is required for trailers in Minnesota. :bash:
shivesy 04-07-2006, 02:19 PM Should you not at least have a "Certificate of Origin for a Vehicle" that comes with the sled when purchased from the dealer that the manufacture supplies? Or a bill of sale from the dealer?
I've bought new MX bikes, sleds and all have come with a Certificate of Origin. Then if I sell any of my toys I have the proper paperwork for the buyer. The Certificate of Origin is not a title.
You should have some type of legal documentation or one might think that you are selling a stolen vehicle.
If you bought this sled from a private party you should have requested a Cirtificate of Origin for your protection during that sale. This is the way I see it but I could be wrong.
idooski 04-07-2006, 02:58 PM We don't have titles for sleds here in Michigan either. I have never received a Cert of Origin with a snowmobile. I have with trailers and boats, but not sleds. All we have to do with a sled is sign the registration and/or write out a bill of sale. Sleds are just considered personal property here.
Ricks_SkiDoo 04-07-2006, 03:08 PM We don't have titles for sleds here in Michigan either. I have never received a Cert of Origin with a snowmobile. I have with trailers and boats, but not sleds. All we have to do with a sled is sign the registration and/or write out a bill of sale. Sleds are just considered personal property here.
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yes just like here
paul yarek 04-07-2006, 05:46 PM come to ontario and you even have to buy a sellers kit to sell a sled.
Bradyvberg 04-07-2006, 07:36 PM here in wyoming we dont need a title or anything either, just bill of sale.
8vo fan 04-07-2006, 08:41 PM All recreational vehicles in Mi. are personal property incl. the trailers. I've had three different trailers without any kind of vin numbers. All you need to sell here is bill of sale.
paul yarek 04-07-2006, 08:58 PM i couldn't believe i was towing Pete's trailer from wisconsin without a licence plate here in ontario because in wisconsin no plate required on a trailer. :dazed:
jtkennedy9 04-07-2006, 09:45 PM No title in Indiana, either, though there has been talk of it happening. Just another way for the banks and government to make money.
michahicks 04-07-2006, 09:45 PM I could be wrong, but thinking here in Mi. you need a registration that's been signed off on by the previous owner to transfer ownership/register a sled. Bill of sale establishes sale price/how much you'll be paying sales tax on, that's about it.
I have bought sleds with no registration before. That requires an inspection by the police. (Not a big deal as long as what they're looking at isn't stolen.) Minimal fee. (25.00?) Last time they came right to the house, no hassles.
Do you register a sled somehow in Maine? Thinking there would be no problem here if the new owner had a copy of that that's been signed off?
Ricks_SkiDoo 04-07-2006, 10:30 PM I could be wrong, but thinking here in Mi. you need a registration that's been signed off on by the previous owner to transfer ownership/register a sled. Bill of sale establishes sale price/how much you'll be paying sales tax on, that's about it.
I have bought sleds with no registration before. That requires an inspection by the police. (Not a big deal as long as what they're looking at isn't stolen.) Minimal fee. (25.00?) Last time they came right to the house, no hassles.
Do you register a sled somehow in Maine? Thinking there would be no problem here if the new owner had a copy of that that's been signed off?
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we do regular reg. here (maine) on sleds minus the title,the state always knows the previous owners as its registered... here the sled keeps the original numbers on the hood with of course the sleds vin. from its first registration when bought new,and never gets changed through ownership.even if 50 people bought and sold it that sled will still have its same hood numbers the state first issued to it.. Like a boat
idooski 04-08-2006, 09:13 AM I could be wrong, but thinking here in Mi. you need a registration that's been signed off on by the previous owner to transfer ownership/register a sled. Bill of sale establishes sale price/how much you'll be paying sales tax on, that's about it.
I have bought sleds with no registration before. That requires an inspection by the police. (Not a big deal as long as what they're looking at isn't stolen.) Minimal fee. (25.00?) Last time they came right to the house, no hassles.
Do you register a sled somehow in Maine? Thinking there would be no problem here if the new owner had a copy of that that's been signed off?
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I have registered several sleds over the years with no registration papers. It has not been a problem at all. It could be a case by case thing, but personally, it has all been smooth sailing with just a bill of sale for me.
shivesy 04-08-2006, 11:56 AM The Certificate of Origin, or for short (CO), is like a title but doesn't need to be registered with the state. It is really a paper trail type of certificate along with the bill of sale (BOS) from the dealer.
I bought a 06 Apex in Michigan in Feb. and it came with a CO and BOS from the dealer. I bought a RS Venture in 05 from a dealer in NY and it came with a CO and BOS. I have purchased MX bikes here in Ga. from dealers the past 8 yrs. and they also gave me a CO and BOS.
The CO looks like a title but is not and proves that you bought the sled or MX bike from that dealer. Now when you go to resell the sled you need to pass this CO and a new BOS, written out by you and signed by you and the new buyer, along to the next buyer for his records. This can go on for many sale transactions with just one sled. This creates a paper trail and will give a potential buyer the confidence that the seller is not selling him a stolen sled because everything is documented. The CO is the KEY to all of this in my opinion because anybody can make up a bill of sale but not a CO.
I would not buy a sled or MX bike from a private seller unless he had a CO because how do I know it is not stolen. Plus I know down the road when I go to resell the item the next buyer will probably request it for his security.
If I am buying your sled I don't care about your registration I want the CO.
Now trailers are a different story and I have no input on thit topic.
Just my experience and hope this helps.
idooski 04-08-2006, 12:36 PM The Certificate of Origin, or for short (CO), is like a title but doesn't need to be registered with the state. It is really a paper trail type of certificate along with the bill of sale (BOS) from the dealer.
I bought a 06 Apex in Michigan in Feb. and it came with a CO and BOS from the dealer. I bought a RS Venture in 05 from a dealer in NY and it came with a CO and BOS. I have purchased MX bikes here in Ga. from dealers the past 8 yrs. and they also gave me a CO and BOS.
The CO looks like a title but is not and proves that you bought the sled or MX bike from that dealer. Now when you go to resell the sled you need to pass this CO and a new BOS, written out by you and signed by you and the new buyer, along to the next buyer for his records. This can go on for many sale transactions with just one sled. This creates a paper trail and will give a potential buyer the confidence that the seller is not selling him a stolen sled because everything is documented. The CO is the KEY to all of this in my opinion because anybody can make up a bill of sale but not a CO.
I would not buy a sled or MX bike from a private seller unless he had a CO because how do I know it is not stolen. Plus I know down the road when I go to resell the item the next buyer will probably request it for his security.
If I am buying your sled I don't care about your registration I want the CO.
Now trailers are a different story and I have no input on thit topic.
Just my experience and hope this helps.
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I've purchased three new sleds in the last three years. None of them came with a 'CO'. I guess you would have to pass on one of my sleds. Registrations work just fine for me. It proves that the sled was registered to me with no protests.
Ricks_SkiDoo 04-08-2006, 12:50 PM I've purchased three new sleds in the last three years. None of them came with a 'CO'. I guess you would have to pass on one of my sleds. Registrations work just fine for me. It proves that the sled was registered to me with no protests.
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YES and also prooves that they know who to go to if it was stolen with a current reg.
all they would have to do is call the state and give them the vin # and numbers on the hood.
I bought a sled last year and we realized the guy never put his numbers on the hood,we called the state and gave them the vin. they looked it up and it came up with the last registered owner and the numbers that should have been on that sled.So I could place the numbers needed on it. So in other words its real easy to see if it is stolen or not.. because number one it would be in records,Im sure every one of us would fill a report if we went out and our sled was gone...so we all know there would be records saying STOLEN when the vin comes up.
Now if someone was selling a sled with a vin plate that looks alltered I maby be worried or them not having a valid reg.
FreezerBurnt 04-10-2006, 04:22 PM come to ontario and you even have to buy a sellers kit to sell a sled.
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WTF :dazed: :huh:
Since when Paul :whistling:
Ricks_SkiDoo 04-10-2006, 04:28 PM WTF :dazed: :huh:
Since when Paul :whistling:
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