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: Got The 1.25"


Steimy
10-06-2002, 10:56 PM
Alright, I bought the 1.25" track. How many studs should I throw in er'?, I don't want any in the outside belts of the track and I'm going to use double backers. Dealer said I should be alright with 96 but could go higher. Give some ideas.

Thanks guys- Steimy

I have a 00 mxz 700 for those that don't know.

Steimy
10-06-2002, 10:58 PM
Also what brand is the best? Woody's, Saber, Stud Boy, Roetin, etc.

Machzzzz1
10-06-2002, 10:59 PM
Go with more then 96. For a 700 thats not enough. You will wear them out or pull them out. Even for a 500 96 is understudding IMO.

UPrider
10-07-2002, 01:04 AM
Looking at the Woody's catalog, it says for a MXZ700 144 studs for Trail use, 168 for "intermediate" and 192 for Performance.

Here is a link to their Application guide for 2000 skidoo WOODY"S ('http://www.wiem.com/appguide2.htm')

They have also changed their studding patterns a little from the last few years. Less studs in the outer belt, and more in the center.

dooman
10-07-2002, 06:15 AM
first off how many 1.25 inch tracks have guys you studded?my dealer has been using the same 1.25 track since '00 on his ,00 700 ,his 01 800,and his 02 800 he runs only 96 studs down the middle belt and has no lost or bent studs.he only rides 1200 miles a year though.I would use woodys and start with 96.it really depends on your riding style,and conditions.

sledcrazy
10-07-2002, 11:50 AM
i would go with AT LEAST 144 especially for a 700, im putting 144 down the middle on my 600.

folgers
10-07-2002, 01:01 PM
192 on a 98 mach 1 with a few extra fun toys!

make sure what ever you put on you put the right carbides on!

dooman
10-07-2002, 03:27 PM
sledcrazy why?have you ran a studded 1.25 incher yet?I have a 470 here I bet will walk all over that 600 with 144 studs as long as they are for that track.the thing here is why are you using 1.25 inch lugs if your riding on ice were the 144 studs are going to do you good?if your using the 1.25 track you should be in snow and studs do you no good in snow.this is the reason why most guys riding the 1.25 are using only 96-120 down the middle only for braking and icy corners they are not trying to hook up with the studs thats why they bought the big lug tracks.

Hardcore & Pimped Out
10-07-2002, 03:37 PM
Dooman, I agree fully :yee:

machz69
10-07-2002, 03:49 PM
yup this is why im getting an 1.25 most of my ridding is on trails and lakes or rivers. but now what about clearance this is what my concern is. i have been running a stock .88 with 144 studs and there are some spots where the studs have been touching. my studs are either 1.125or 1.250 i cant realy remember but now with a 1.25 i would need longer.i might just try it like that(no studs)..........irealy am a stud guy but want to try a deep track.last year anyhow the deep trackz realy made me :0: :cussing: ...........lol

BLADEGUY
10-07-2002, 03:57 PM
I run a 1.25" long track, so it has a few more studs on the snow. I run a 96 pattern - which is actually more than 96 on a long track. I use Fast Track Top Gun II stainless steel studs with round plastic backers and stainless steel nuts. If you use the double backers, it'll be a funny pattern won't it? Fast Track are light weight and durable, a friend of mine who snowcrosses recommended them. I'll bet you find that you are just fine with 96 down the middle. Use the fast track round plastic backers.

maluchm
10-07-2002, 03:57 PM
144 down the middle of a 1.25" lug track on a 600???
Might just be a little over kill. ;)

I ran a 1.25" on my 700 triple last season without studs and had
no complaints. Try it without and see how it works then if you feel
the need start with 96.

sledcrazy
10-07-2002, 04:15 PM
Because I run my sled an ANY condition there is, I rode it on grass and no snow half the time last year (well almost no snow) And hooking up sucked ### w/o picks. 1.25" will help, but studs will make it better, I like to do powder riding, trail riding, occasional lake run (not usually), and sometmies icy stuff. so a nice lug track and studs will help.

dooman
10-07-2002, 04:21 PM
well come on down to the ride this year and run,it is after all in fun.I will start with my 470 and work my way up if needed.wait on second thought I might just bring the invader and give it a try.

sledcrazy
10-07-2002, 10:42 PM
wut the #### is a 470.

dooman
10-08-2002, 06:06 AM
now I know your a young guy,the 470 is my 87 formula mx. :thumbsup: :)

Steimy
10-08-2002, 09:40 AM
Thanks for all the help guys, I mostly trail ride agressively, and do encounter some icy corners, lakes and hardpack so I definitely want to run studs.

machz69
10-08-2002, 02:08 PM
run against what? :hallo1:

CAT-EATER8
10-08-2002, 02:10 PM
DONT PUT ANY IN IT WITH A 1.25 TRACK, U CAN BUT I WOULDNT,YOUR STUDS ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE AWFUL LONG FOR A 1.25 TRACK AND I CAN GAURANTEE U WILL BREAK THEM.IF U WANNA STUD A TRACK STICK WITH THE 1" TRACK :D

Jiddru
10-09-2002, 05:11 PM
I have a 1.25 on my MXZX 440 with 96 right up the middle. It has plenty of hook for trail riding or snowcross. I would go with 96-120 for your set up, no more. I run 96 woody's 1.375 (if I remember correctly) and they do bend. Also, you will probably need to move the suspension mounting to a lower hole for clearance. Of course, you will need the proper tunnel protectors. By the way, I would look into a longer snow flap. My buddies hate riding behind me because the deep lugs roost really bad. Not only is it a lot more snow dust, but it has been known to pick up rather large rocks and ice balls and eject them at high velocity towards your trusting friends behind you. Broken goggles, sore chests and bleeding fingers have occurred...

I also have an 2002 MXZ 700 Adreneline with a 1" track (however, ski-doo's 1" track is not really 1", it is more like .92). I chose to run 120 right down the middle of the track. I used Roetin's new Hornet studs, with a length of 1.080. It has plenty of traction, and I even grass dragged the sled for the entire NSRA season. It will lift the skis with no track spin at all. These Hornets are the by far the best studs I have ever used, but they are one of the most expensive. I have tried Woody's Golddiggers, FastTrac Top Gun II, Xcaliber, and Saber, and Roetin. The only studs I would buy are either Roetin or Woody's. I have never bent or broken a roetin. I have bent quite a few woody's, but never broken one. FastTrac's are over priced pieces of ____! I have broken them numerous times and fast trac wouldn't do a thing about it, plus they loose their tips easily. Xcaliburs are crap. Stay away from the cheap studs...you get what you pay for. Take a look at the new Roetin Hornets, but be careful about knock-offs. I was at the snowshow a few weeks ago and saw some guy selling cheap imitations that were not in a roetin box...

RacerX#9
10-15-2002, 05:32 PM
i must be a #### clown !




1rst Warning !



Last edited by DanR at Oct 15 2002, 06:56 PM

FZ700
10-16-2002, 06:07 PM
steimy, I have a 700 with 144 studs (woodys) on a 1.25. I put on 1700 miles and have not had any problems. I would try to keep them in the center, if you are going to run 96 studs. I understand that if you do not run them on the outside the sled tends to slide out on corners. I guess it all depends on your riding style!


FZ700!

sledcrazy
10-16-2002, 06:18 PM
well ive decided not to go w/ studs on my MXZ. ill put them on my pro x tho. (1" track). BTW, i went grass dragging w/ my mxz today down at the school field (they dont really use it anymore, and i live like 2 mins away from it) ITS GOT SO MUCH PICKUP NOW!! DAMN. Ive got it all back together now, and running AWESOME!

Steimy
10-16-2002, 06:22 PM
FZ700, I ended up buying 144, 1.40 studs. I'm going to run all of them down the middle. 96 with double diggers and 48 singles. BTW where do you ride?

FZ700
10-16-2002, 07:06 PM
steimy, I live in MN. but I primarily ride in WI. My buddy and I usualy will ride up by Val Halla. Last winter, we went to West Yellowstone and to Island Park ID. That was the best riding I have ever done. The 1.25 worked great. Just enough paddle to get you in trouble, but you could not get up to high, but it was still fun. Where abouts do ride.

FZ700

Steimy
10-17-2002, 04:16 PM
I mostly ride in the U.P. but ride in southern wisconsin when we get snow, 2 winters ago it was actually awesome down here we had over 2.5 feet of snow on the ground and the trails were the best I ever seen them.

FZ700
10-17-2002, 07:41 PM
Last year I made the mistake of heading to the UP, it looked like sturgis.
I have a buddy in Ironwood, I'm thinking of heading up there this year to try it again(hopefully it will not be as crazy). I think the lack of snow drove everyone to the UP. This year I plan to do most of my riding in the Val Halla area. I have a MBRP silencer, hopefully I won't get pulled over for illegal exhaust.

I'm hopeing for a good winter.

FZ700

Steimy
10-19-2002, 06:50 AM
I've never been to hurley, and probably never will be (staying there anyway) just because I've heard it's so nuts. I either ride the Keweenaw, or central and eastern parts of the U.P. like Munising,Ishpeming,Grand Marais etc. It really does depend on the amount of snow in other places though, If there is no snow in northern Wis. guess where everyone goes?