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skidoo girl
10-01-2006, 08:48 PM
:confused: Hey everyone, I just needed to rant a little bit...
Last Wendsday my neighbors dog came over to my house and dragged my cat out from under my porch, ran all over the neighborhood with my cat in it's mouth, until my kids got it to let go..
Unfortunatly my Chaz kitty died from his injuries... As this was taking place, I was frantically trying to catch the dog... not being able to load the shotgun,(left the shells in the truck) I grabbed a branding iron and went to the owners house and told him I was going to beat my cat out of his dogs mouth... He of course said oh no your not, and gotin his truck and went 10 miles to town to get taco bell for dinner...
The sheriff can't do anything, but did come out twice that night to tell my husband that he shouldn't be out "dog hunting"...I made it clear to all involved that if I see the dog out around my yard I will shoot it... The sheriff says that he can't tell me not to but I can be sighted for reckless endangerment...But I am a pretty good shot so no one will be in danger...
I know its not the dogs fault, but all the same I have two more kitties and I will protect them.. My 3 dogs never run around unleashed...
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Smokin George
10-01-2006, 09:08 PM
:thumbsup: Keep your pets inside and lace some food with poison or put some food out and a bowl of anti-freeze to wash it down with!

paul yarek
10-01-2006, 09:21 PM
if it is legal to shoot where you live just shoot a couple of rounds off into the air. no harm done and the dog won't be back. :wink:


went to the owners house and told him I was going to beat my cat out of his dogs mouth... He of course said oh no your not, and gotin his truck and went 10 miles to town to get taco bell for dinner...
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i thought that's where mexicans ppaid their phone bill :confused: :blush:

underdog
10-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Sorry to hear about your dilema... I know in Ont. Canada the dog would have to be quarenteened to the house for 2 weeks after any biting incidents. Are there not stipulations on this because of possible rabbies scare down there?

Fist
10-01-2006, 09:46 PM
KILL IT!!!!!!!

snofrog
10-01-2006, 09:55 PM
I would shoot it on sight on my property no questions asked and if I saw it on the road I guarantee there would be no skid marks jmho I wouldn`t even think of using poison thats just a slow cruel death jmho

FreezerBurnt
10-01-2006, 10:04 PM
Screw the quarantine BS

If a dog attacks and kills mine that dog is good as DEAD!!!!!!!!!

about ten years ago I was with my brother walking my parents dog(10lbs) and a Golden retriever came running right at us

I hoofed the dog right in the snout and it yelp right in front of the dogs owners kids

I walk back the same way 15minutes later and the little girl pointed to her father that it was us that kicked the dog

the father came up and I looked him right in the eye and he turned right around without saying a word and gave the kids #### for letting their dog lose

Its good to be 6'5 :p

tunedbyear
10-01-2006, 10:26 PM
we have a 140 pound akita.he is always on a leash outside the house.mainly because of the other dogs that are running loose.my wife carries mase with her when she walks him because of other dogs.

snow4mydooplz
10-02-2006, 06:22 AM
I'm very sorry to hear about your kitty and the fact your children had to see this. Is there a leash law in your town? Were pics taken? Unfotunately it is not the Dog's fault, but the owner of the dog should be held accountable. This is a very sad story...... :( Sorry to hear of it.



Snow4

idooski
10-02-2006, 07:48 AM
... Unfortunately it is not the Dog's fault, but the owner of the dog should be held accountable. This is a very sad story...... :( Sorry to hear of it.



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I agree 100%.

I would be simply livid if it were one of my cats. The owners should be held liable and made accountable for the cats death. It really isn't the dog's fault although I really do understand what you are feeling right now. I've been there. Be careful of what examples you set for your children. They are most important right now. So sad...

Fist
10-02-2006, 10:21 AM
Yeah I guess I was kinda harsh...

What I guess I should have said is...


SHOOT THAT SUCKA!!!!


What I guess I thought I saw was that this is a problem animal. If it were my dog (it was one time) I would kill it myself if I could not contain him (had to do it). Maybe I grew up in the south and think different but I would not give the owner another chance after once and then it had better be put down or I would do it myself. The owner should be held liable though for certain.


Sorry for the loss of your pet. My story was a little bit different as it was a little girl that had to have 43 stitches due to my dog. I was 16 and had to work for 3 months to pay the doctor bills and mowed their yard for almost 2 years just because my daddy would have killed me if I didn't.

When the dog showed up with blood we wondered what it had killed. When we heard a little girl was attacked we went straight there (about a mile away). When they said it was my dog and told us what it looked like and what happened I drove my 4-wheeler straight home and shot him. It was very hard to do but I knew it would never stop. my stupid brother taught it to not like black people. I should have shot him too.

skidoo girl
10-02-2006, 03:07 PM
Thank you all for your comments, and I do have the shotgun loaded and sitting by the door.. if the dog is loose again it will be shot...and the owners are well aware of that... we do not live in town, we live outside city limits, there is a fine for dog at large but an officer must see the dog loose, the sheriffs don't start until 8 am... so I will video the dog if it is loose, (unless it is on my property..)
The owners are liable in a civil matter for the death of my Chaz.. if they agree to pay the vet bill then all will be good, but they claim they can't afford a kennel... I am sure the vet bill will be more than a tie out would have cost..
I also understand that the dog isn't completly to blame, but we have shot her with bb's, pellets, rocks and she still came back... the owners have kept her home for the last 5 days.. hopefully that will remain the case.. Poison is not an option, we thought about it, but there are other cats, and wild critters around that we wouldn't want to harm...
Thanks again for your support, its nice to know I can rant and rave and have others understand..

Had this been one of our dogs that got out and killed another pet, we would have put it down..

cooley
10-02-2006, 05:33 PM
first your cat then your ?


it will only be a matter of time before it attacks a child

Fist
10-02-2006, 07:36 PM
first your cat then your ?
it will only be a matter of time before it attacks a child
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THAT!!!! is my point...Shoot it! and then open up a shotgun shell and pour the BB's out. Load it with rock salt and close it up...then shoot the owner in the arsh!

P.S. This trick also works well for dogs as the will be trying to lick the salt out for a few days and it stings the whole time...

Ask my brother...my dad shot him on accident one night while he was sneaking around outside smoking pot. My dad thought he was a thief.

snow4mydooplz
10-02-2006, 07:48 PM
first your cat then your ?


it will only be a matter of time before it attacks a child [/b] You know you have a point there.. If the dog is vicious in nature ,then it needs to be put down, but for Chrine out loud you guys.. why all this in-humane stuff? There are kids that are paying attention to what the parents do at this point. Be Humane about it ! It's not right for parents to go around with cruel intentions or thoughts about what they are going to do to an animal. If the animal can't function in society without hurting people or other animals then the humane thing to do is to call animal control. JMO



Snow4

skidoo girl
10-02-2006, 08:29 PM
snow4 is right, as for now the dog is being kept tied up... so killing it would be in humane... however if it does end up running around uncontrolled I am afraid it will be killed... and that would be the owners fault..

paul yarek
10-02-2006, 10:13 PM
just because the neighbour is an idiot it's not a reason to be the same. just shoot the dog and you'll see all h-ell break loose, believe me it's not worth it. give it a boot like Freezerburnt did or like i said earlier when the dog comes over just shoot off a few rounds into the air. it won't be back.

my neighbour's jack russell was coming across the road to my house so the neighbour and myself planned a butt kicking with he on his side of the road and me at my house. i caught the dog and put it in the barn, once the road was clear of traffic i let him out and kicked his butt. the dog ran straight home and of course got a boot from the neighbour. the dog hasn't been back. what bothered me about the dog coming to my house was that eventually he was going to get hit by a car. it was not the dog getting hit that bothered me but was someone in their vehicle trying to avoid hitting the dog and causing themselves to crash.


Ask my brother...my dad shot him on accident one night while he was sneaking around outside smoking pot. My dad thought he was a thief.
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what are you running there? the Okay corral? did father get charged?

1greenmachine
10-03-2006, 01:58 AM
first your cat then your ?
it will only be a matter of time before it attacks a child
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We got a yellow lab from the pound once and it was pretty crazy and a few times it nipped at me or my dad but seemed okay. One afternoon as my little sister was walking by it started nipping at her and before the day ended it was in the ground. If a animal shows aggresion like that it will happen again because it is natural for it.

gade girl
10-03-2006, 07:25 AM
:confused: Hey everyone, I just needed to rant a little bit...
Last Wendsday my neighbors dog came over to my house and dragged my cat out from under my porch, ran all over the neighborhood with my cat in it's mouth, until my kids got it to let go..
Unfortunatly my Chaz kitty died from his injuries... As this was taking place, I was frantically trying to catch the dog... not being able to load the shotgun,(left the shells in the truck) I grabbed a branding iron and went to the owners house and told him I was going to beat my cat out of his dogs mouth... He of course said oh no your not, and gotin his truck and went 10 miles to town to get taco bell for dinner...
The sheriff can't do anything, but did come out twice that night to tell my husband that he shouldn't be out "dog hunting"...I made it clear to all involved that if I see the dog out around my yard I will shoot it... The sheriff says that he can't tell me not to but I can be sighted for reckless endangerment...But I am a pretty good shot so no one will be in danger...
I know its not the dogs fault, but all the same I have two more kitties and I will protect them.. My 3 dogs never run around unleashed...
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Leave the helpless dog alone, it's your neighbours fault and he's the @$$! My neighbours dog almost killed my cat, on my back step! He didn't say sorry, didn't pay the huge vet bills. His dogs have bothered all neighbours for years! He's the *&$&. Sure I'd like to kill the dog while he craps in my yard and luers my dogs on to the road, but it's the dumb idiot who owns him.
Should be a law we can beat on the owner :lol:

labudda
10-03-2006, 07:41 AM
I think we all agree that it is the owners fault. The problem is however that the dog may now be beyond help, and is a ticking time bomb especially if the owner is unwilling to work with it. If the dog came on my property again he would be done, of course I have a little one running around and their is absolutely no way that he would get near her after this episode.

Dog on my property... no big deal, a viscious dog on my property with children... big problem.

NewfieBullet
10-03-2006, 02:20 PM
first your cat then your ?
it will only be a matter of time before it attacks a child
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I disagree completely with that. My Husky is terriffic with kids, but if it's small, got four legs (or two legs and wings) and moving he's after it, and he's a good hunter, so he's got his share of rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks, pigeons, grouse, and other small animals. He's tried beaver, but they fight back pretty good, and the same thing with cats. Both of my dogs love to chase them, but if the cat has claws it can defend itself, and if it doesn't have claws then it's the cat owners fault.

As for lease laws, I can see the point in having the law, and my Husky stays tied up when we're in town, but my sheppard is 11 years old, never goes anywhere, and I never tie her up. She's been around long enough she deserves a little freedom.

And if anybody was to ever shoot my dog....I'd hold such a grudge that I would get them, in this life or the next they'd be sorry. Be careful what kind of a feud you start over a stupid cat.

skidoo girl
10-03-2006, 02:57 PM
I disagree completely with that. My Husky is terriffic with kids, but if it's small, got four legs (or two legs and wings) and moving he's after it, and he's a good hunter, so he's got his share of rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks, pigeons, grouse, and other small animals. He's tried beaver, but they fight back pretty good, and the same thing with cats. Both of my dogs love to chase them, but if the cat has claws it can defend itself, and if it doesn't have claws then it's the cat owners fault.

As for lease laws, I can see the point in having the law, and my Husky stays tied up when we're in town, but my sheppard is 11 years old, never goes anywhere, and I never tie her up. She's been around long enough she deserves a little freedom.

And if anybody was to ever shoot my dog....I'd hold such a grudge that I would get them, in this life or the next they'd be sorry. Be careful what kind of a feud you start over a stupid cat.
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First of all my cat was NOT stupid... he was sleeping under my front deck, covered in flowers and elk horns... this dog dug up the flowers and broke the elk horns to get my cat... Chaz was an old cat, he very rarely went outside except on nice days and NEVER left the porch..we have several dogs that are not kenneled in our area, most of them are trained to stay at home, this dog has been a problem for over a year.. The owners have been warned.. If your dog viciously attacked someone else's pet in their yard and they shot your dog, you would be vindictive?? I would have to take responsability, and call it a lesson learned.. I would never go to their house and kill the dog, but if it returns it is as good as dead..

labudda
10-03-2006, 03:07 PM
I disagree completely with that. My Husky is terriffic with kids, but if it's small, got four legs (or two legs and wings) and moving he's after it, and he's a good hunter, so he's got his share of rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks, pigeons, grouse, and other small animals. He's tried beaver, but they fight back pretty good, and the same thing with cats. Both of my dogs love to chase them, but if the cat has claws it can defend itself, and if it doesn't have claws then it's the cat owners fault.

As for lease laws, I can see the point in having the law, and my Husky stays tied up when we're in town, but my sheppard is 11 years old, never goes anywhere, and I never tie her up. She's been around long enough she deserves a little freedom.

And if anybody was to ever shoot my dog....I'd hold such a grudge that I would get them, in this life or the next they'd be sorry. Be careful what kind of a feud you start over a stupid cat. [/b]

That dog gets into a farmers chicken coop I guarantee you will never see it again. Might want to teach it the difference between domestic and wild animals or keep it on a leash. Good hunting dogs know the difference.

Icerider
10-03-2006, 03:22 PM
. Be careful what kind of a feud you start over a stupid cat.
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Wow her cat was stupid because it was on her property and an unleashed dog came on her property and attacked it so its the cats fault, good logic spock. If it were my cat that was attacked the dog would be hanging from a tree limb in my front yard. In Toronto so many kids have had their face mutilated due to unleashed dogs its nuts. Pet owner need to be held accountable if a dog kills a kid the owner should get 2nd deg or at least manslaughter. The owner of this dog should have to pay all bills plus pain and suffering and a good 100 hours community service would not hurt.

snow4mydooplz
10-03-2006, 03:29 PM
Be careful what kind of a feud you start over a stupid cat. [/b] I don't think that is being completely fair Newfie.......I mean the cat obviously meant something to this family and they are upset over how it died and who saw it die. ( let's not forget about her children who witnessed this whole thing)



I have 2 cat's and I love them very much and I might add they are smarter than some dogs I know.. again ,the Humane thing to do to an animal that can't function without being viscious to other people's pets or be trained such as yours is...CALL ANIMAL CONTROL ! They not only will see if the dog can maintain proper manners back at home ,or if they need to be put down.. No Gun's, No Salt Pellets, No Rock's .. and the children can be told that the matter was handled by people who do it for a living and are trained to take care of animals. They will also investigate how your cat was killed which would further your case in court for your Vet bill's.



Ski-doo girl......I sympathize with what happend to you, I just hope you can get through this all without you or your children seeing anymore cruel things happening. I also hope that the dog owner will realize this as well, and do what he needs to do from his end.



Snow4

FishHog
10-03-2006, 04:19 PM
sorry to hear about your cat. But I gotta disagree with the fact that since a dog killed a cat, that its a threat to a child.

dogs and cats don't get along. thats nature.

The fact is the owner is at fault. I think you did the right thing by warnign the neighbour. Its up to them to control their dog. And I most likely would shot it if it was back on my property.

but I think were getting a little out of hand with some of these comments and reference to this evil child killing dog.

FishHog

NewfieBullet
10-03-2006, 06:05 PM
My point was not about the cat's lack of intelligence, but rather that it's just a cat. Dogs and cats fight, it's nature, and if you go and shoot the dog you're going to create a lifelong enemy that lives right next to you. Getting along with your neighbors is worth alot more then the sense or revenge you'll get by shooting a dumb dog who was only doing what dogs are known to do. Chase cats.

As for the chicken coop, my husky did get into someone's chickens once, while I was standing right there with the farmer. He understood that the dog was just doing what comes natural, and we got the chicken away from the dog before the ckicken was killed. We both felt kind of silly for not having realized what would happen when I let the dog out of the truck to run around. The farmer had put his dog in the house so there wouldn't be a fight, but neither of us thought about hte chickens.

snofrog
10-03-2006, 06:53 PM
I disagree completely with that. My Husky is terriffic with kids, but if it's small, got four legs (or two legs and wings) and moving he's after it, and he's a good hunter, so he's got his share of rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks, pigeons, grouse, and other small animals. He's tried beaver, but they fight back pretty good, and the same thing with cats. Both of my dogs love to chase them, but if the cat has claws it can defend itself, and if it doesn't have claws then it's the cat owners fault.



And if anybody was to ever shoot my dog....I'd hold such a grudge that I would get them, in this life or the next they'd be sorry. Be careful what kind of a feud you start over a stupid cat. [/b]



bottom line is ... I dont care if your dog runs free from now till eternity or on who`s property the dog chooses to vandalize as long as it`s not mine ,killing my animals or bothering my kids .but cross that line and that dog is worm food .if you or any other unresponsible dog owner chooses to start a "feud" over this, I`m just the sort of person that can ,and will, finish it . oh ...JMHO



MY LAST POST THIS THREAD !!!

paul yarek
10-03-2006, 08:37 PM
dogs and cats don't get along. thats nature.

The fact is the owner is at fault. [/b]

Bartender,,,,,, get that man a whisky :wink:

idooski
10-04-2006, 09:44 AM
I don't think that is being completely fair Newfie.......I mean the cat obviously meant something to this family and they are upset over how it died and who saw it die. ( let's not forget about her children who witnessed this whole thing)



I have 2 cat's and I love them very much and I might add they are smarter than some dogs I know.. again ,the Humane thing to do to an animal that can't function without being viscious to other people's pets or be trained such as yours is...CALL ANIMAL CONTROL ! They not only will see if the dog can maintain proper manners back at home ,or if they need to be put down.. No Gun's, No Salt Pellets, No Rock's .. and the children can be told that the matter was handled by people who do it for a living and are trained to take care of animals. They will also investigate how your cat was killed which would further your case in court for your Vet bill's.



Ski-doo girl......I sympathize with what happend to you, I just hope you can get through this all without you or your children seeing anymore cruel things happening. I also hope that the dog owner will realize this as well, and do what he needs to do from his end.



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