02-18-2002, 04:58 PM
Currently they are even eating yamaha's dust.
02-18-2002, 04:58 PM
Currently they are even eating yamaha's dust.
02-19-2002, 08:22 AM
I just hope us polaris fans wont have to suck hind tit again like in 1999-2000 http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
02-20-2002, 12:11 PM
Well, thats nice to hear.... I have been wanting a ProX600 for about a year now. When I saw the 03 Arctic Cats ( *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ) I just knew that was the sled for me! Then I heard about using the ProX Chassis and I started thinking that may be the route to go. I'm glad I decided to go with Cat this time, as you do not seem to have good luck with the X600. What I decided to do is on Feb 25 is the Cat show in NH (Bedford) I am goin' to choose & write up the F7 firecat, and NOT place my deposit on it. On April 8 ? is the show in Manchester NH for Polaris.
Nothing new = New Arctic Cat. * Sorry Polaris....the love affair may be over. I have been faithful for 6 yrs, and now its time to stray........unless................... http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
02-20-2002, 12:33 PM
Well I hope the rumors of polaris buying fast are true, I think it would be a good mix because fast has been working on the a-arms & the reversed engine thing which seems the way to go in the future! and with direct drive in the works at arctic cat the bar is only going to get raised higher!! but dont get me wrong about my Pro-x's I love the sled and I also own a 2001 ZR440 sno-pro and it has had some minor problems! and I know other guys who have the 2002 sno-pro and they have had there share of problems too!!!!!
02-20-2002, 11:22 PM
hey mr xc7 as a rider of polaris sleds since 1986 when i got my first indy trail,i also doubted the brand.so this winter i got a mx-z 600 and to be blunt i'm trading back to a polaris next year,the ski-doois no way shape or form better than my 2000 xc 700 sp,in fact i would say its worse,i just rode a 2002 edge x 800 and it is awesome.things always look better on the other side.but from my experience its not.so just cause these company's come out with this flashy new crap doesn't means its any better and i believe time will prove this.just cause these sleds are good on the track doesn't mean anything .blair morgan said it best after the espn x games.its the rider not the sled.and just cause one guy had trouble doesn't mean a thing i know lots of guys racing these sleds that haven't had a problem
02-21-2002, 08:52 AM
Well I am not ready to jump ship from polaris! But I just hope they shock us the first of march! I just hope they have something up there sleeve (Rather than the pro-x) and that they have better information security than the other brands! or this could be a long summer of wondering what if! If they just stick to the pro-x this year, I would have to bet they will have a late release double a arm radical sled in the works because there snowchecks will not be on par with what doo and cat have comming out http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
02-23-2002, 05:03 PM
hey guys... check out the polaris website(www.polarisindustries.com) they have got a promo runnning on there 2003 sno check..doesnt really show alot,shows new graphics scheme(sure hope to god thats not all we are going to get this yr)and some photos of pro-x and stuff,long ass rmk's..also wasnt the 4-stroke in the gen 2 chassis..looks like from the headlight it may have been moved to the EDGE..not much but check it out-INDY
02-24-2002, 08:20 AM
I had no luck finding the 2003 snow check sled info.
02-24-2002, 03:54 PM
only pictures i've seen the 4-stroke is in the edge chassis,and thats what it will be in for production as well as two up touring sleds,i just rode the new frontier 4-stroke yesterday it was a prototype but i must say its kinda neat.i won't be buying one but maybe if i was 30 years older .it would be a great sled for cruising trails.
02-24-2002, 05:41 PM
yea i had problems viewing it after the first time so i just went back into my history folder and found it and saved it as a favorite,in case i get bored and wanna drool again..so here's the link to it..let me know if you have anymore problems.-INDY
02-25-2002, 07:17 PM
Everyone at polaris is prety tight about what is coming out. I know a dealer who is a friend of mine and he says nothing is being let out. *My money is on a direct injection model and lighter sleds. Rummors i've herd are about 30 + lbs lighter on the edge chassis. *That will keep them ahead of the pack for another season.
02-25-2002, 08:11 PM
No more xcr800 triple, polaris will offer the pro-x sleds. There is nothing big coming this year. *They are gearing up for their 50th anniversary.
02-26-2002, 09:21 AM
I hope you are kidding around! if not I hate to say it but I may have to jump brands! I have bought a new sled every year since 95 and I am now looking at the biggest bang for the buck! What manufacture is going to give us their all without holding back! I still Hold out hope for Polaris in 03! The pro x chassis is not enough for me!!!!!!! *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
02-26-2002, 09:47 AM
yeah this sucks polaris has never really had a fast sled but they have the quality which is good but i want the speed and the better suspension so I think i might have to switch hit this coming up winter and go with the arctic cat that seems to be all around fastest and has a great suspension hopefully polaris suprises us in 03 and comes out with a badd a## sled!! http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif * *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif * http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
02-26-2002, 04:02 PM
I'm hoping for direct injection too seeing as how they have it in a watercraft. Better fuel economy and cleaner than 4 strokes. That would be great. A major weight loss would help too.
Anteater, watch it. I'm probably 30 years older than you and I sure am not looking at a 4 stroke trail cruiser yet!! * http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
02-26-2002, 04:23 PM
i don't know about you guys but i think the pro-x chassis is one of the best ,i don't see anything better on the firecat ,you think its better cause its new,not always the case guys,i know what they claim but we'll see .you want the fastest sled,throw a set of larry rugland pipes on a 700 pro-x or what ever it will be and blow the doors off the pos firecat.i also heard possibly a 900cc to 1050cc engine coming .ive been with polaris sleds since 1986.this year i tried a mx-z 600.its garbage i'm going back home to polaris next year.right where i belong.why do you think they been #1 all these years .????they know there sleds . http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif and as far as the fastest sleds,the 500,600,700,and 800 twins have been some of the fastest sleds in there stock classes its in every magazine.who knows about 2003 but i'm loyal .polaris is the best hands down.some new plastic and a lot of hype from the others new sleds don't mean $hi! to me.
02-26-2002, 05:02 PM
Anteater, what year is the mxZ you are talking about? *I purchased my first Ski-Doo, an 02 600 adrenaline and I think its great and I have owned plenty of Polaris' through the years. *In fact, except for rider position, (the MXZ rides slightly higher) I find the Pro-X and the MX-Z almost identical in handling and feel and acceleration. *Sure there are minor differences but in my opinion, nothing major (as long as you throw out the Polaris brake noise). *My hard core Polaris friends agree. *I've heard that 01 MXZ's and earlier were prone to some ski lift in the corners, but that is not the case with my 02.
I switched brands just to try something new and for the electronic reverse that ski-doo offerred. *If you jump from an 02 Ski-Doo to an 02 Polaris or vice versa, because you think they handle vastly different, I think you will be disappointed. *Im guessing that will hold true for 03 (not including the REV). http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
02-26-2002, 05:23 PM
I personaly hope that that nxr is just a consept design and never makes it to production because I think it is just homely.When I went to Polaris school they had a one word saying it was KISS( Keep it simple stupid) and I hope they stick to it for lack of long term testing.
02-26-2002, 05:36 PM
ANYSLEDWILLDO,MY MX-Z IS A 2000 AND I HAVE FRIENDS WITH 2002 SKI-DOO'S SO I KNOW THE THINGS ON MY 2000 ARE NO LONGER A PROBLEM ON THE NEW ONE'S.BUT I FEEL MY 2000 XC 700 SP BEING THE SAME YEAR I WANTED TO COMPARE THE SLEDS EQUALLY THE XC IS BY FAR A BETTER SLED IN PERFORMANCE ,HANDLING AND RELIABILITY.IN MY OPINION!THE ONE THING I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THE DOO IS IT FEELS LIGHTER ,BECAUSE IT IS,FOR FOR ALL OUT TRAIL BURNING AND DITCH BANGING I PREFER MY POLARIS.I RODE A 2002 EDGE X AND A 2002 MX-Z X AND I FEEL THEY WERE BOTH GREAT SLEDS AND BOTH DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.BUT FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN BUYING NEW SLEDS I FIND THE SKIDOO'S COST MORE MONEY.BUT ARE IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM BETTER SLEDS.THE FIT AND FINISH ON MY MX-Z 600 IN THE ZX CHASSIS IS POOR.HOOD DOESN'T FIT WORTH A CRAP,AND NEITHER DOES MY FRIENDS 2002 MX-ZX.
02-26-2002, 06:04 PM
Anteater, I agree with you about the hood. *Drives me nuts having to check the thing 3 times before taking off to make sure it is on correctly. *I also agree with you about the cost. *I justified the extra $ for the RER and the DPM but heh, I had to rationalize spending more money somehow.*Is RER an option for Polaris this year on all sleds?
I also have not experienced what I thought would be total humiliation at the hands of my friends 02 ProX 600's. *In fact, I have not lost a hole shot yet (we haven't had a chance to stretch their legs yet), but I know that is so relative and I may get smoked by them this weekend. *But once again, I can't believe how similar they are. *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
02-26-2002, 07:47 PM
:Dhey anysledwilldo,your not the first guy to use the rer/dpm excuse for the cost,but personally *those things aren't important to me,i understand the technology that went into those products but it's not enough for me to justify paying more money,cause on any given day my "low tech" carburated polaris will still compete .with little or no jetting.i've found the usa twins to be very consistent in a wide temperature range without jetting.and even though i don't have reverse if i wanted it the mechanical reverse on the classics wouldn't bother me,even with the extra weight.
but i must say that as a canadian our government subsidises the heck out of bombardier giving them millions of dollars to keep them from going tits up,they use this money to get these big train and jet contracts as well as to buy these big companies out like omc for technology they couldn't develope on there own,but you can bet a lot of this money goes into sled development as well.i feel this gives bombardier an advantage to build higher tech sleds than cat and polaris.
but also makes me appreciate polaris and cat more for what they do build.funny bombardier gets all this money but our drought struck farmers in alberta don't get hardly any gevernment help.so till bombardier does it on there own i'll buy sleds made buy hard working,honest money making companies like polaris
02-27-2002, 04:42 PM
NOTE:for my above comment i mean no disrespect for employees of bombardier,or to dealers or people whom work for dealers at bombardier.the subsidizing comment was info i read in a paper .people were amazed that our government was giving them this money.and many were angry.i'm not aware of what goes on in the usa so maybe its the same deal.maybe all large corportations get this.i still must say i have a large amount of respect for bombardier and what they do and stand for and am proud to say they are canadian.
02-28-2002, 08:05 AM
As far as I know I have not herd of any tax breaks for Polaris or Cat in the U.S. The big tax breaks are for the big 3 auto makers and now even the import brands are getting huge breaks to bring plants to certain states!! Of course lets not forget about the huge companys in the states they are so honest and they tell the public everthing right!!! just like Enron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
02-28-2002, 11:53 AM
Retiredpop-The direct injection 2-strokes are not cleaner running than a comparable 4-stroke. If that was the case, everyone wouldn't be going to 4-stroke technology.
The big three have been toying with the idea of 2-stroke engines for cars/trucks and they cannot come up with an engine that lasts and can get better emissions than a 4-stroke.
These sled companies should have been on the ball a few years ago with the direct injection for their 2-strokes because they do have better emissions and are cleaner burning, but now they really need to concentrate on 4-strokes to comply with the upcomeing emissions reqirements. It will be alot easier to make them with the 4-strokes rather than the 2-stroke D.I. units.
I love 2-strokes because they are so simple, and direct injection 5 years ago would have been the way to go but now is time to go to the next step-they waited to long. Yamaha has a good idea with the RX1-they really should have fuel injected it though. Immagine the gas mileage it would get if they injected it. I have a feeling their 04 model will either come with fuel injection or will come with the option for sure.
02-28-2002, 01:30 PM
Please someone tell me Polaris has a big secret to tell! Don't tell me they have nothing more than the Edge or the prox chassis for 2003! I don't want to jump brands in 03 but its starting to look like polaris has nothing new *comming out! *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
03-02-2002, 05:50 AM
Polaris Virage i (http://www.polarisindustries.com/aboutUs/news/default.asp?articleid=8375318C-7346-47A4-8449-5245209ECF84&newsHeadline=Polaris+Virage+i+with+Direct+Injectio n+Delivers+the+Industry%26%238217%3Bs+Best+Fuel+Ef ficiency)
Okay I was wrong. It doesn't say it is cleaner but it does sound impressive at least in the watercraft. It meets 2006 EPA standards so it must be pretty clean. I would love to see one in a sled. Don't get me wrong as I think there is a place for 4 stroke sleds but it isn't in my trailer.
03-04-2002, 07:12 AM
the bombardier evinrude outboard 200 ficht 2 stroke has lower emissions than the yamaha 225 4 stroke..so your not wrong the 2 stroke dfi (orbital) and ficht, sdi engines from bombardier are class leaders in emission reduction (50% to 75% ) depending on what engine and type of injection used plus lower oil use and between 25 to 35% increase in gas mileage .
So the use of dfi sdi 2 strokes will surpass the 2006 emissions as of right now and the rx1 can't claim that!!...so save the 4 stroke for the lawn mower!!
03-04-2002, 07:25 AM
POLARIS FOR LIFE !http://members.aol.com/pstorm750/images/stormfront1.jpg
03-05-2002, 11:38 AM
Hey I am new to the room but I can not understand the big deal over the RX-1. Yes it is a 4 stroke and I am sure it is fast. But it is hard for me to beleive it will ever be lighter then a 2 cycle with the same HP. Plus I am going to be interested in see if a RX-1 will start when the temp goes below zero. That oil is going to get real thick on cold days.
I beleive 2 cycle will continue to be the engine of choice for most snowmobilers in the future. I also will be interested in seeing how reliable the RX-1 will be. Yamaha in the past has struggled with first years sleds.