I found these last year and have waited to see some info crop up in magazines since. its a legit company with good reputation in racing circles. I know arlen ness was building a bike with them but have not seen it debut. knowing a guy that done the change on his H-D ,loving every minute of it. stops much better and looks absent. for those interested it is http://www.360brake.com p.s let me know what you think. I have nothing in it just curious.

Took a quick look, and I guess I'm a little skeptical. Are they better than no front brake at all, most likely, and if you have a bar hopper and are more concerned with looks than performance, they are probably OK. "Braking into a cloud", and "It feels like your not braking at all", that's not what I would like to hear. In real simple terms, brakes on a bike, sled, any vehicle, convert mass and speed into heat. Do you see those little, enclosed brakes dissipating a lot of heat, yeah me either. Now, it seems like I saw somewhere that you could get some carbon/carbon brake systems for bikes for under $10k per wheel. Now that, would be cool, but definitely out of my league.

Took a quick look, and I guess I'm a little skeptical. Are they better than no front brake at all, most likely, and if you have a bar hopper and are more concerned with looks than performance, they are probably OK. "Braking into a cloud", and "It feels like your not braking at all", that's not what I would like to hear. In real simple terms, brakes on a bike, sled, any vehicle, convert mass and speed into heat. Do you see those little, enclosed brakes dissipating a lot of heat, yeah me either. Now, it seems like I saw somewhere that you could get some carbon/carbon brake systems for bikes for under $10k per wheel. Now that, would be cool, but definitely out of my league.[/b]
I am not skeptical I have ridden and the performance is second to none really. the best brake I have seen ever really. those lil brakes are better than a set of 6 piston pm calipers. I was turned on by the performance not the look ,that is a bonus the fact they look invisible. you note in my post I have nothing to gain. but the boys a baldwin/wilson have been approached by everyone in the industy that needs brakes, no b.s.

insight as to how I got turned on to this brake system. I know tim wilson from racing, one of the best engineers I know. he was telling me how they had this gentleman come into the shop with a brake system that needed some welding done. the brake was for fred baldwins experimental aircraft. tim said have you ever thought to building them for bikes, most builders leave them off for looks. well thats where it started. tims famous shop got bigger and added fred baldwin to it. not to mention a move to brownsburg. you can bet you openwheel fans have seen tims work in the past on some indy cars/champ cars. needless to say the chance to ride one came up and I got hooked on the performance of the unit. the old softail was getting wheels this year, well now it has new brakes coming to go with them.

If it was really a better braking system, why is it only used on poser bikes and not on performance bikes? I'm with Snofast on this one. It's a nice set-up if your other alternative is no brake at all.

If it was really a better braking system, why is it only used on poser bikes and not on performance bikes? I'm with Snofast on this one. It's a nice set-up if your other alternative is no brake at all.[/b]


what do you consider a " performance bike " :slick: ?

I guess we will know more when we see them on Nicky Haden or Valentino Rossi's bikes.

what do you consider a " performance bike " :slick: ?[/b]


probably something like this??

the really isn't any braking issues with a modern sport bike, even a production bike out of the showroom

The limit is the tire technology, you only have so much tire to slow(and accelerate) you.

If it was really a better braking system, why is it only used on poser bikes and not on performance bikes? I'm with Snofast on this one. It's a nice set-up if your other alternative is no brake at all.[/b]
I would venture to say ,because it only came to market last year. how many seen it before I posted a link? I rode one last summer. call and do a lil research I am not their salesman nor do I get paid to show their product. I was in wilsons shop. he asked me " hey you ride don't you ".I said yeah since 4 years old. he took me out threw me the keys to a wide glide with 126 hp and so tell me what you think. needless to say this summer my bike will be running them. I am told all the auto manufacturers are trying to buy into the patent to use the system as are bike manufacturers. not just hd, or as you say poser bikes. what I like, the way the brake feels .by grabbing the pad in a 360 manner it makes the bike feel much more stable under hard braking conditions. try one and you will agree. ohh and by the way you ever come up on me and my poser bike you better be ready to roll the throttle , love to see the look on your face when 148 hp hd burns rubber into 6th gear. maybe not beat you but make you think about that statement. my hd does corner well. not a gsxr but hey it is american. the 360 brake will become something you see and on its own merits. I can promise you that and not just be bikes running it. whys it on posers bikes first . who runs no brake look? and who has the bigger market? just as dpaige said, they think there is no need for it. one thing to remember 1 pound of rotating weight reduction is the same as 7 pounds stationary :wink:

Man these things would be WAAAY more Freddie's feet than needed :thumbsup: but nothing compares to that LOOKIE NO FRONT BRAKES drool right ON! :whistling: can you say hidden real fast hehe :undercover:

Numbers, Dooman, we want some numbers. Since Mr.Wilson should have lots of money by now, since all the car and bike manufacturers are paying him big coin for his patent, he should be able to buy a "performance" bike for a comparo. Let's see, we don't want no poser bike, rice burners suck, Italian, well they're too damn expensive, how about a good ol domestic Buell Lightning. After looking at the 360 brake website, that rim mounted floating front disc brake on the Buell should no contest for the 360 brake. What was Eric thinking when he designed that front brake on the Buell anyway? Lets see some 100mph to 0 stop times and distances for the stock Buell and then with the 360 brake. Make sure some third party is having a few cold ones and keeping everything on the up and up. I'll volunteer for that. Then, we too will believe. Maybe the laws of physics can be broken.

I might guess that time is of the essence here, I fear that like the 100 mile per gallon carb ( you know, the oil comapnies bought that guy out to keep him quiet and his product off the market), the 360 brake may be off the market soon, because Kelsey Hayes, Brembo, and Bendix, etc., won't want to lose all the money the have invested in the disc brake tooling they have. It could happen. :whistling:

Numbers, Dooman, we want some numbers. Since Mr.Wilson should have lots of money by now, since all the car and bike manufacturers are paying him big coin for his patent, he should be able to buy a "performance" bike for a comparo. Let's see, we don't want no poser bike, rice burners suck, Italian, well they're too damn expensive, how about a good ol domestic Buell Lightning. After looking at the 360 brake website, that rim mounted floating front disc brake on the Buell should no contest for the 360 brake. What was Eric thinking when he designed that front brake on the Buell anyway? Lets see some 100mph to 0 stop times and distances for the stock Buell and then with the 360 brake. Make sure some third party is having a few cold ones and keeping everything on the up and up. I'll volunteer for that. Then, we too will believe. Maybe the laws of physics can be broken.

I might guess that time is of the essence here, I fear that like the 100 mile per gallon carb ( you know, the oil comapnies bought that guy out to keep him quiet and his product off the market), the 360 brake may be off the market soon, because Kelsey Hayes, Brembo, and Bendix, etc., won't want to lose all the money the have invested in the disc brake tooling they have. It could happen. :whistling:[/b]
let me know when you have time to come down here. I would love to hook you and T. Wilson up. remember how sleds have come along, in a few years now. you have to think outside the box to be on top. wow diesels sucked(for big power) a few years back as well. times change and so do developments in tech. but drop me a pm with your open dates and I will see what Tim has going. to think they are waste time trying to move ahead on a 30 year old braking system design. p.s. the system is not exactly the same as but very similar to those on jets now, only the jets have 3 pistons in the circumferece not the 1 of the 360. but hey why not use brembos on those 747's, or the rim mounted disc, what are they thinking. in testing I am told stopping multiple times in a row it was cooler than the stock system it replaced, how could that be? you say not possible. take time to see and you 'll agree. now if you will not then drop your b.s.. I am done unless you have something that maybe you can prove against such system , proof is in the system not the web. I get nothing for my interest so I am done. drop me the times you have to travel. Barry p.s. I said manufacturers are interested not he was selling the patent ,that is only a foolish thing to doo and I know that.