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mike800z 10-20-2002, 02:50 PM was at my dealers open house and we were talking about how i didnt like how our 02 800 mxz didnt like to coast. so he went to the parts bin and pulled out a bag with a new spring and two new needles to help with the gas mileage. this spring should definatly make a differance ballsout1 10-20-2002, 03:36 PM It will probably backshift slower too, so in tight trails your gonna loose some bark out of the corners, I`m just guessing, but something to think about. mike800z 10-20-2002, 04:13 PM i want to slow down the backshift. the way we ride is to coast into the corners, with the other spring the sled wouldnt coast at all z800rotax 10-20-2002, 09:27 PM That new spring will definately reduce your backshift.That is almost the same as comparing the white to the beige. ;) mr670 10-20-2002, 10:52 PM Why doo you guys say that the new primary spring will reduce back shift?? The new spring looks like it will be way stiffer then the rear. What does the pri.spring have to doo with the back shift anyway? Rocketman 10-21-2002, 12:13 AM Originally posted by mr670@Oct 20 2002, 09:52 PM Why doo you guys say that the new primary spring will reduce back shift?? The new spring looks like it will be way stiffer then the rear. What does the pri.spring have to doo with the back shift anyway? I was wondering the same thing mr670....what we've got here is a picture of two primary springs....all it might do is change your rpm characteristics depending on the spring specs.... ??? :blahblah: Cudney Racing 10-21-2002, 06:52 AM The picture is of 2 secondary springs and z800rtx is absolutely correct the spring will slow down the backshift of the secondary because the RER secondary works quite simmilar to a primary spring in that it holds the upshift and creates the backshift. Not many people want a slower acceleration rate or a slower backshift rate that the new spring creates and the majority of people would be totally dissatisfied with that, it creates clutch hesitation coming out of a corner and doesn't let the sled accelerate at it's quickest potential. mr670 10-21-2002, 08:45 AM Pardon me guys I thought I was looking at primary springs Rocketman 10-21-2002, 09:46 AM Fooled me :doh: :withstupid: z800rotax 10-21-2002, 10:47 AM Hence his topic title New Secondary Spring :p gino 10-21-2002, 04:34 PM looks to me like that spring to try on the lake for top speed :withstupid: or mabe not ;) ;) ;) ??? ??? ??? :withstupid: mike800z 10-21-2002, 05:36 PM rocketman & mr670, bill cudney is right the picture is of the secondary springs not the primary. from the first time i drove the sled i didnt like the way it backshifted, just like it had an engine brake. i`m sure if you are very agressive on the twisty trails the original spring with its super quick backshift is the one you would want but the type of riding we do i think i would like a little less backshift and now maybe the thing will coast a little better. plus he also gave me two new needles for the carbs to help out with the bad gas mileage....mike sledcrazy 10-21-2002, 06:05 PM hey mike800z, how much better do those needles help the fuel economy?? There was a bulletin on the 01 600's. I just put the 2 new needles in my sled a few weeks ago. I had THE WORSE gas mileage ever last year. hopefully its actually comparable to my friends 500 this year. lol machz69 10-21-2002, 07:18 PM the purple one is what came with my machz-2000 rer speed is everything 10-21-2002, 07:26 PM DONT FEEL BAD GUYS I HAD TO LOOK 3 TIMES MYSELF. IT LOOKS LIKE THE PURPLE IS A PRIMARY AND THE BLACK IS A SECONDARY AT FIRST GLANCE. HE IS OBVIOUSLY LOOKING FOR THE LAID BACK STYLE OF RIDING, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE WILL GET WITH THE NEW SECONDARY SPRING. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE SOME SANE RIDERS ON THIS SITE ALSO, THEY ALL CANT BE SPEED CRAZY LIKE THE REST OF US OR WE WOULDN'T NO IF WE WERE THE CRAZY ONES OR OR THE SANE ONES. :hallo4: SummitAK 10-21-2002, 07:36 PM mike800z, Could you please post the Doo part number from the needle bags your dealer gave you? And if the needles are available could you also post the Mikuni part number stamped on the needles? These are non-adjustable or adjustable? Thanks, SummitAK gino 10-22-2002, 03:45 PM can anyone post the part number for the black spring thanks id like to try it out. sledcrazy 10-22-2002, 03:53 PM Goodwin gave me a light blue secondary spring, and a red primary spring w/ my clutch kit i ordered. I told them all the mods i had, and what kinda riding i did too. cant wait to try the sled out now! gino 10-22-2002, 03:58 PM did the light blue spring seem less stiff compaired to the purple (stock)spring. permafrost 10-22-2002, 04:03 PM I got the needles put in LadyK's 02 mxz800 gade, and the secondary spring too. I hope the spring wasn;t a mistake :0: . We'll just have to get some snow and see. SummitAK I will have those part numbers for ya tommorow, and some info on them. they are supposed to make it leaner :D z800rotax 10-22-2002, 04:07 PM Leave that spring in for her permafrost and she'll probobly want to divorce ya :0: :) By the sounds of how you guys ride i don't think she will like it.IMHO :hallo7: SummitAK 10-22-2002, 04:10 PM Thanks Permafrost! mike800z 10-22-2002, 06:02 PM the new black secondary spring number--- 417126687 new needle number--- 404162027 and the needles arent adjustable, just one notch in them sledcrazy 10-22-2002, 07:08 PM gino, I havent taken the driven clutch apart yet, I need a clutch press or w/e theyre called to hold down the helix while I take out the circlip. Ill let ya know when I get it apart. SummitAK 10-23-2002, 01:18 PM Mike800Z, Thanks for the part number on the new needle. If anyone has the needles on the bench still, please post the Mikuni number stamped on the needle. I would like to compare the tapers. Thanks, SummitAK | ||