well boys WHAT DO U KNOW!!! another skidoo problem. ive had it w/ them now, i will NEVER own another skioo again. the motor still isnt fixed, and what else broke 2nite??? THE GEAR BOX!! what a suprise, its just such a joy going out and dealing w/ that hunk of junk. im sellin it for $4,000 if anyone wants it. its got: SLP single pipe, goodwin clutch kit, vforce 2 reeds, 1.25" track, 23/43 gearing. 800 miles. im in southern maine if anyone wants it. I WILL NEVER RIDE THAT OR ANY OTHER SKI-DOO PRODUCT EVER AGAIN. there has been NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS w/ that thing.

EDIT: Look at that...you said the same thing without swearing. Rocketman



Last edited by Rocketman at Oct 20 2002, 06:55 PM

What do you expect when you trailor it un-covered on an open place then park it under the willow tree with the hood up all summer! :hallo5:

well number 1, its been in the garage all summer (westport marine, and my garage), and i guess to hell the hood has been up. and what do i expect?? well for $6000 i expect A HELL OF A LOT MORE THEN WHAT I GOT!!!!! i havent had one day of riding last year that i didnt have a problem w/ it. im pissed, my friends 99 xc 500 hasnt had ONE problem. and ski-doo is not doing a thing about it. ####ing motor is still messed up, those needles didnt even help it. RAVE valves have problems as well. not to mention the ####in brake. i think ill be switching back over to polaris.

Everybody makes a lemmon once and a while, I guess it was your turn :cussing:

Warranty


If you bought used you get someone else's problems

Sledcrazy!! Seems to me like you have a lemon or let someone work on your sled that doesn't know what there doing. 1question for you, why did you bring it there?? ??? . Have you tried another dealer? Did you buy it used or new?. I can tell you SKI DOO doesn't suck, every brand has it's problems. If your thinking of buying Polaris you might want to second guess that. I saw more polaris with problems last year, know a few peeps that own them ( junk) IMO. However SKI DOO,CAT and Yamaha has ALL come out with nicenew sleds.

What are they saying is wrong with your sled?? I know a guy in Maine he is on another board and KNOWS HIS STUFF, he is the best I have ever seen, he races ski doo's. have you ever been to that other site, Join the board, Private message me and I will give you his # or PM here and I will let you know who he is. Very nice, honest and KNOWS ALL SLEDS LIKE THe BACK OF HIS HAND. Words can;t explain how good this guy is :D



Last edited by jwheeler at Oct 20 2002, 07:23 PM

That stinks. Even though I'm not a Doo fan, their sleds are generally very reliable.
I don't know about Ski-Doo but once I contacted Arctic Cat (it took numerous letters and polite calls while working with a decent dealer)about the ongoing problems I was having with mine last season, they worked with my dealer and dealt with each and every issue to my complete satisfaction. Before getting even more pi$$ed and loosing a ton of dough, maybe try contacting Ski Doo directly. You got nothing to loose and everything to gain.
Good Luck
Rick

let's hear some detail here,
1. what year is it ?
2. model ?
3. how long have you had it ?
4. has anyone else here had those troubles ?
5. yadda yadda.

tell us we might be able to help.

sorry for blowing up, but i HATE when things break!! its a 2001 mxz 600 standard. ive had troubles since i owned it, it was bone stock, ive done some mods to it. there was a bulletin on the needles for fuel consumption, but i got that update done, and it still runs like sh!t. it just seems like everything i touch breaks. i touch something on my sled it breaks, my truck is in the shop... AGAIN, and i didnt even touch it, because i dont know a lot about trucks.

its alright man we all have had a bad apple call skidoo or your dealer and say something if they really care about their customers they will help you out if not theres always another brand thats lookin for customers

well all you guys that say that there is always one bad apple out there.... WELL I HAVE IT!! i have that ONE bad apple of EVERYTHING i buy. my sled, my truck, my boat, my fishing equipment breaks, EVERYTHING I HAVE sucks, i mean it can be brand new, and something will happen to it.

whats wrong with the gear box?YOU had taken it apart to change the track,and YOU put it back together

ya well, i had it back apart, only to find out that it leaked for some reason, so i found out the problem... I THINK, so i was putting it back together, and one of the bolts heads snapped off, lodged in the hole. so i got that one out, went to the hardware store and got some new stainless bolts, and i was tightening one, and it stripped the damn hole in another spot.

you have to be very carefull when tightening the cover on,very easy to strip the threads,lol ive done it before,its only a cover ..no pressure in there so it doesnt have to be torqued down :p

well why does it leak out of there then???

leak where?what spot on the chaincase is leaking

as far as leaking make sure the seal is in good shape and make sure it got put in right before you tighten it down or else it will pinch it. And as far as the stripping of the bolt it happens alot ,aluminum is soft and all you have to do is put a nut on the back side where your bolt comes through at and snug it up

hey buddy how r u......lol. dont give up so quickly. thats may be the source of your misfortune.....lol. now as for the chain case or chain. u could expect to snap a chain from time to time. did u look at it and if so what did u find?. as far as the leak it could be on the inside seal. who changed your track? if u did it u may have fubared that....lol. thats easy to fix thats just petty ####...now what is wrong with the engine.? u say u have installed v force. now did u do the install? and what settint is your reeds at? and are all the screws still in it? they are famous for that then breaking off reed pedals the it will run like ####...lol very rich.the bolts on the case there all the same they all use aluminum cases. let us know everything thats wrong and im shure we could help u. :D

This guy doesnt want help. He wants polaris.

Good luck.

First I would find someone that knows what the hell he is doing. It sounds like you dont. Good Luck with Polaris :hallo7:

boys boys, dont worry about what i say when i get all pissed off because something broke. im not going to sell my sled, and im not going to go over to polaris. FOR THE LEAK, the oil seal that the drive shaft goes into is NOT leaking, its leaking from the chain case it self, its leaking out of the bottom, i thought that the cover may not have been on tight enough thats is how i broke the head off. but if they arent tight how will it not leak?? my dad said that the gasket may be pinched, and he knows his ####. (a HELL of a lot more then I do) and for the engine, one side runs PERFECT (perfect piston wash, and plug color) and the other side runs lean, I have no idea why. I even tried keeping the 500 mains in one side (perfect side) and then i put 540 mains in the lean side, and it still was lean for some reason. and yes the reeds were installed correctly. Im not that bad at wrenching at sleds, there is just a few things which I dont know, seeing how ive only been working on them for a few months. and I think that if i can change a track, put new suspension on, jet, clutch and all that, thats pretty good for a few months of experience, and of course someone whos been at sleds for a long time will know a HELL of a lot more then me. and for the record im 16.

Originally posted by sledcrazy@Oct 21 2002, 02:06 AM
leaked for some reason.

So i was putting it back together, and one of the bolts heads snapped off

went to the hardware store and got some new stainless bolts,

was tightening one, and it stripped the damn hole in another spot.
No easy way to say this. But it sounds to me that the problem is not so much with the sled. I think the problem is your ability and judgement when trying to fix your sled. It will not matter what brand of sled you get if you care for it as you have this one you will have the same problem`s. If you dont think so go crank down on your friends chain case bolts and let me know how you make out. Now as far as the chain case leaking. Is it leaking just siting there ? Or when riding ? If it is when you have it up and spin the track or are riding I have found that if I dont use synthetic oil in the chain case it foams up and leaks out, as well make sure it is not over filled. !!!

I use synthetic, and I its not overfilled. And, it will leak just sitting there, it doesnt have to be moving.

First state your sleds problems. And how they broke. One post at a time.

Will see if we can get ya running.


For someone thats 16 and probably didnt buy the sled, You sure got real upset over it.

One lesson you have to learn if your going to play around with engines and stuff is that the moment you dig into somthing, somthing is going to break. When it does you can either cry about it or fix it.

Ive built a ton of engines for racing Cascar with buddies of mine, Ive built a camaro for me personnaly, and I run sleds and pretty much anything with a motor.

If you get that discouraged everytime somthing goes wrong, you will learn to hate working with motors. You have to treat situations like this with more patiance and think the problems thru.

Every problem has a plus. Maybe now that you broke the chain case you can change your gearing and so on.

IMO you sound like someone way over your head when working on your sled. Since you said your dad knows a lot more then you I suggest watching him. Even the best learned from someone.

Take Care.

Actually I did pay for that sled w/ my own money. Now, this is the problem that I cant figure out, and the dealer doesnt know either. One side (clutch side) runs too lean, and the other side (chaincase side) runs perfect. last season, the clutch side was running WAY rich (actually both cylinders were running way too rich, but the clutch side was worse). now the clutch side is running to lean. I have 500 mains in there now, Ive tried changing them, doesnt make a difference. I also got the needle update from the bulletin I had out. So that is the only problem Im worrying about right now, dealer fixed my brake problem. But, they have NO IDEA what is wrong w/ the engine, that update was supposed to fix it I guess, but it didnt. Sorry for blowing up once again at u guys and ski-doo. Do any of you guys have any ideas???

Oh and the other problem, the chain case leak, I cant figure that one out either??? thats why I tried tightening the bolts in the first place, I thought maybe they werent tight enough. It leaks out the bottom of the chaincase, where the cover goes on. the oil seal where the driveshaft goes looks fine, not leaking out of there.

Did the runnings problems start before or after you inst. the go fast parts? Maybe try putting it back together stock and go from there. You may be fighting bad parts more than a problem sled. As for the chaincase leak, its a matter of cleaning it up and carefully watching where the oil comes from. Brake clean is a good choice.
Until you're feeling calmer stay away from the sled, getting PO'd while working on it always seems to lead towards more trouble.

If your cover takes a gasket, have you tried a new one? If it doesn't take a gasket(my cat doesn't) then check to see if there is maybe a crack in the in the cover somwhere or something in the way preventing it from properly sealing. If all else fails, put the cover on w/o any oil in and the get some sealant and put a bead around it and fill it once its curred.
As for the lean side, have you pulled your carb out and cleaned it good. Could have a gummed up float or something. Have you pulled your reads and inspected them? Could also have a problem there.

all these problems started before i installed ANY mods. I did check the carbs, my dealer actually cleaned them anyways, but i check those, and the reeds as well. they both look fine. there isnt really any liquid gas on the reeds, like there was on the stock ones.

One thing to look for and it may sound stupid. Check your oil injection grommets. I ran into that problem with a freind of mines sled. He was complaining of a chaincase leak. We tore it apart and found nothing. We putting it back together and something caught me in the corner of the eye. I noticed injection oil was leaking down and dropping from the line. For your carb problem. Take your carbs apart completely. Some silicon from the lines have been getting into the carbs and blocking orifices. I had to clean my carbs. Take out the lowspeed air adjustment and blow lightly inside with compressed air. I found a small piece of silicon from the lines up there that gave me greif.

The lean problem sounds like an air leak to me. Torn carb boot, jug gasket, or crank seal.

If the clutch has been overheatedd it can cause the end crank seal to fail.

You migh have an intake leak also. Start the motor and spray ether around the crank seal, jug gasket, and intake on the sled. If it picks up RPM you have a air leak.

As far as the chaincase goes, it is the same one Doo has used since 95. I have had zero problems with my 95, 98, and 2001. You might have a bent cover, bad gasket, or something is cracked. Flat out, it isn't put together properly. You might have the bottom shaft put together in correctly and it will not allow the cover to sit down all the way on the case. Is the drain plug in all the way and or damaged?

The cover bolts should only be about 100 in/lbs just engouh to snug up the cover and let the gasket seal.

call ski doo and see what they say. Also try another dealer. that would be the best thing to do. I hope everything works out for yo

Why did you use stainless screws? were they the same grade as the OEM screws?

I've got over 6000 miles w/ my '01 MXZ 600 & the only problem that took some time to fix was that it was using too much oil. Other than that great sled.

Sounds like dad should have taken you under his wing in the mechanic department. I think a wrench in your hand is like a grenade. Sorry kid, but some of us have it and some of us dont.
By the way, did you locktite the bolt on the big gear? If not, expect to take care of your leaking cover problem.

, I did loctite the big bottom gear. But it still leaks.



Last edited by Snow Monkey at Oct 21 2002, 04:35 PM