Whats the story? Don't let them do it! :cussing:

Well, were not quite to that stage yet.
But we do have to register all our guns with the gov't by the end of this year.

So when they do want to conficate them all, they will know where they are.

to date, the Canadian Gov't has spent almost 1 Billion dollars, on a simple registry, where everyone who has Grandpa old shotgun on the wall, will have to register it.

I'm quite sure the criminals will be registering all theirs also...NOT.

FishHog

Originally posted by FishHog@Oct 28 2002, 09:46 AM
Well, were not quite to that stage yet.
But we do have to register all our guns with the gov't by the end of this year.

So when they do want to conficate them all, they will know where they are.

to date, the Canadian Gov't has spent almost 1 Billion dollars, on a simple registry, where everyone who has Grandpa old shotgun on the wall, will have to register it.

I'm quite sure the criminals will be registering all theirs also...NOT.

FishHog
LOL yeah dam criminals they would be stupid to take guns away cause it's the fear of guns that keep robbers out of your house. and so ya know criminals will always have guns while the gov't takes guns from the helpless souls. besides so they take guns away then what next? knives? base ball bat? Pencil? if someone wants to kill they will always find something to use other then guns. I say crime will just raise higher once guns are gone :cussing: Don't worry the USA is too going though trying to ban guns. it sucks :cussing:

Well, don't ya see what's going on? By doing this it makes it look like they are doing something about the problem while the illegal guns are the real problem. What, are they honestly believing that every person that owns a firearm will willingly get it registered. That is real nieve(spelling). :doh:

Ya it must be all the hunters with registered guns and farmers who use them for pest control who are robbing all
the stores and shooting people with there legal/registered weopons :angry: Our politicians couldn't organize a pi$$up at a brewery :angry:

Originally posted by z800rtx@Oct 28 2002, 03:55 PM
Ya it must be all the hunters with registered guns and farmers who use them for pest control who are robbing all
the stores and shooting people with there legal/registered weopons :angry: Our politicians couldn't organize a pi$$up at a brewery :angry:
Well, you know it isn't the criminals commiting the crimes, that would be wrong. It is real pathetic on the politicians part to think that it is the legal firearm commiting the crime. Do they think we are that stupid?! :cussing:

Don't forget, they are cutting funding for schools and hospitals, but spending over $1 billion on gun registration.

If this keeps up, I'm going to have to organize a pi$$up at the Brewery.

FishHog

in a few weeks we will be waking up the thing that happened about 15 years ago when a dork walked into a college i think in quebec and shot 10-12 girls and of course guns will be bad. my response is what would the outcome have been if everyone of those girls had a gun in her purse ? :sarcasm:

Don't worry the USA is too going though trying to ban guns. it sucks

Thank the good Lord for not allowing Mr. Gore into office...

:withstupid: I agree with you 200%!!! :hallo5:

I agree with half of what has been mandated by the government. I believe that all gun users should take the Canadian Firearms Safety Course and have their possesion/aquisition licence or their possesion only licence. (with certain clauses. eg: my grandfather who faught in WWII should not have to get a licence to posses his military rifles that he never intends to use again. This man and any who fit this discription are not criminals or outlaws or unskilled. They're heroes.) I have fully complied with this portion of the law.

However, The registration of firearms in my mind has no reasoning behind it. This registry will not prevent violent crimes with firearms or increase public safety. If a criminal want's a gun he will get one. Legally or illigally. I feel this registry is a huge waste of money that could be better used by healthcare or education. I will register my guns when the police come to my door, and to the door of the other million or so gun owners that have not registered.

I am not usually this hard headded but this is one issue that bothers me. If someone can prove to me that the registry will curb crime involving firearms I would love to hear your point of view. Maybe I'm missing some key information?

I agree with that C.P.
Nothing wrong with some training. Althougth I had to take a hunters safety course when I first started hunting, and that was around 1984. Then I had to take another course a few years back to renew my FAC, followed by another one for my restricted weapons permit.

All of these couses were very similar, but not bad review. But it truly is the registration that is a complete waste of money.

I even have to register 12 muzzleloading guns that my farther made years ago. Like anyone is going to commit a crime with a flint lock muzzle loading rifle.

Just FYI, heres a pic of one of his finer guns. This ones actually a swivel breach (you rotate the barrels) double barrel 45cal.

FishHog

I bet if that loser in Montreal hadn't told the guys that were in that classroom to leave & shot them too, we wouldn't hear a thing about the whole thing.

As far as the bleeding hearts are concerned he is a representative of every male in Canada. I for one wish the whole thing would just go away.

I bet the families of those girls wish it would too. They must be sick of the attention that the media puts on the whole issue & invading their personal lives.

My 2 cents.

I believe that here in the states .1 or .01% of firearm crimes are done with legally registered guns. It's a crock what CAD is doing to you guys.
Caleb

I totally agre with C.P.SLEDDER 's first part of his statement. But as for registering our guns I don't see it as a bad thing .....ok calm down let me explain what has changed my mind. When this registration a FAC thing all came about I was dead set aginst it as some of you are . I said register my guns so they can take them away ...no way over my dead body !! I had fully intended to only register a couple of the ones that i used regularily and the other 24 would be kept secrect. Well a little over a year and half ago my home was robbed , the bastereds took time enough to get tools and pry open my so called safe gun locker ( a word to the wise if you but one of those cheap gun cabnets like Canadian Tire or TSC sells you might as well just hand you guns over to the next stranger passing by because they are junk) . I my locker was 26 rifles and a hand gun . I had not registered any of my guns except the hand gun because i was waiting for my FAC to come back . Some were family heirlooms and may nothave been worth a fortune but something that had been hand down thoughout my family. That hurt !!
Due to the fact that they were not registered I had no way of proving that I actually owned them even though I had the serial #'s for most of them . If the cops had found them they did not have to turn them over to me because I has no proof I owned them . Ok they were never found ( yet ) and the Insurance company replaced most of them with brand new ones ( most of which I will never use ). Thats one point in favor of registering them all . All mine are now registered and are in a much more sucure vault .
My second point is once this system is up and running the cops will be able to tell if there is weapons in the house before they respond to and emergency call , thus making safer for the officers .
There is definate pros and cons to both sides of this issue and we will never siut everyone. I think the goverement has no intension of coming to our door and picking up our guns they will just keep making it harder and harder for people to keep them , those who are detremined will still have them but the average Joe will just give up and get rid of his ( I know many people that have ) guns because of the hastle . It's a shame society has came to this , that the average person has to jump through hoops to keep what they enjoy yet criminals and crime get worse every day . Will this make the world safer ...NO
Well that's my 2 cents for what it's worth
Good night

I'm sorry to hear about your loss Indy. I don't know what I would do if I lost some of the family treasures I currently have in my gun safe. (they would be pretty useless for anyone else, but they mean the world to me).

And you do make some interesting points. But, do you really think registering your guns would help get them back?

Wouldn't a digital pic and serial numbers be adequate proof of ownership.

The gov't could buy everyone who owns guns a digital camera for less than the $1Billiion they are spending on registration.

As for the gov't not taking your guns away, don't be so sure. I'm sure the people in England said the same thing a few years back.

I guess I can't disagree with the cops having more information to make them safer, but it also worries me, that if this information is out there, the bad guys are going to figure out how to get it also.

As gun control becomes more strict, so too will the value of illegal guns on the street. What better way to decide who's home to rob, than to surf the list of registered owners, and find out exactly what they own.

There just has to be a more effective way, to make the streets safer. And this isn't doing it.

well, thats my two cents.

FishHog