: The machz returns
Machzzzz1 01-28-2002, 11:23 AM I have read on a few magazines now that bombardier is saying the MACHZ will be back in 2003 in the zx chassie with SC-10 111 and the new skis. *They also said DFI was a serious posability and an upgraded engine that makes more power and is cheaper to build but remains a 800 triple. *
FZAIR also mentioned simular things from a Qubec magazine.
Is it possible that Bombardier has not forgotten us muscle heads. *
Just imagine a 800 triple MachZ with the latest in suspention and in a ZX which is still one of the best chassies if not the best. *With the fuel eco of a 550cc and the power of an indy car. *Its going to kick ###.
paul yarek 01-28-2002, 11:30 AM there you go little buddy just what you have been waiting for a new 2003 machzzzz2 with a cn tower in the graphics. now your wife can come home.
Its about time if its true. Now what do I do? new rev, or mach in the zx, tough choice, ok how about the 800 triple in the rev?
Machzzzz1 01-28-2002, 11:50 AM Its a simple choice. *
I think the debate will be over for most aggressive trail sled once this thing comes out. *
What do you want to do. *Go ultra fast in a straite line and not slow down to take the next corner. *MACH Z
Or do you want a 800 twin that uses more gas, Cant go as fast, and probably isnt the best for lakes and fast trails because the windshield is way low and your head will stick about a foot higher then it. *But be able to pound the roughest trails in new style and class. *REV.
Its a tough choice but you cant go wrong with either. *
Your right though just put the triple in the REV. *But im not pushing my luck.
maluchm 01-28-2002, 12:47 PM </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Machzzzz1 @ Jan. 27 2002, 1:23pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have read on a few magazines now that bombardier is saying the MACHZ will be back in 2003 in the zx chassie with SC-10 111 and the new skis. *They also said DFI was a serious posability and an upgraded engine that makes more power and is cheaper to build but remains a 800 triple.[/b][/quote]
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If this ends up being true.....I'm think I'm gonna suffer a
ligiment problem sustained for some time! Booiinnnnnnng. http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
kid rocker 01-28-2002, 01:16 PM We only have 6-7 days left to see. *I don't believe everything I read though. *Which magazine said that? *My dealer says no triples this year. *Maybe Ski-Doo has lied to him. * Let's wait and see. *My friend from Ski-Doo says no triple either, but maybe Mach 3 twin. *Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. *Piece out. *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
FZAIR 01-28-2002, 02:11 PM In the Quebec magazine their is mention of a Mach Z 03 with sc10 III ans new skies but they do not say in what frame zx or ck3 also nothing on the dfi or engine configuration, will have to wait. http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Machzzzz1 01-28-2002, 04:54 PM Well it will have to be a triple. *Other wise whats the point of having a mach. *
Unless its only a single cylinder. * http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
dooman 01-28-2002, 04:56 PM there is a big market in canada for the machz,I cannot see doo leaving this market with nothing to offer.
MachU 01-28-2002, 05:34 PM i thought back in 93-94 ski-doo was guoted as saying"fuel injection does not belong on a snowmobile." After they tried it on the formula plusX,and it was a flop?
Its not that simple of a choice for me. I ride on some pretty rough and tight trails most of the time, but also do alot of drag racing and some trips up north to the great wide open. Untill the rev my dream come true would have been the 800 triple in the zx, but by the looks of the new rev I really would love to have its riding position and suspension, but not to crazy about the big twins.
theHIGHLANDER 01-28-2002, 05:45 PM When I last looked, the type809 motor still owns organized drag racing with the exception of very few other brands running well on an individual basis. When you talk Haydays, Fenwick, etc, these events say a lot. I can`t see Bombardier dropping that motor. If it goes away at all it won`t be permanent. They also need to have the big Z as a "plateau" for more experianced (older) riders who want more than a mogul masher and a $100 a month payment.
Logic says they keep it...so does the wish section of my mind!
ballsout1 01-28-2002, 08:19 PM I had a Mach Z , now *a Mxz, its a little beter for the tight 1 sled wide trails with two foot moguls that make up my typical ride but if your talkin 800 trip in a zx chassis , sign me up now.
Sharkey 01-28-2002, 08:42 PM Having 3 Mach Z's, I second that. *Go-Go Triples!!!! http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Machzzzz1 01-29-2002, 07:37 AM The moment i find anything on the New Mach on the Net I will post it. *Just think how awsome it will look in the zx.
Mikadoo 01-29-2002, 03:32 PM I dont care what chassi its in, the CK-3 is fine with me, I just hope doo keeps the 809 alive *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
Machzzzz1 01-29-2002, 05:10 PM Yeah the CK-3 is definitly an awsome machine as well. *I find it hard going from a CK to a ZX. *The CK has no ski lift
kid rocker 01-29-2002, 11:19 PM Machzzzz1, *Are you serious? *The CK3 has "no" ski lift? *HMMM, my 2000 Mach Z CK3 must have been a fluke. *I think you really meant the ZX chassis had no ski lift, correct?
SKIDOOD 01-30-2002, 12:06 AM My 2000 Mach has ski lift as well.
dooman 01-30-2002, 05:08 AM the ck3 is better than the f chassis but short of the zx.here's what I see coming the machz-x.but then again some of the ck3's I read about are better than the zx,go figure.
Machzzzz1 01-30-2002, 07:37 AM Im not BSing. *The first thing i noticed about the CK3 was that its skis always stay planted. *Sure you can lift them if you really try but when you lean out to one side it may push a little but it doesnt lift. *
My Zx is also pretty good but the ski comes of about 1 inch in really hard cornering. *
My S-Chassie is the worst but even that one is controlable but I have had a few close calls.
have to agree with you in one way on that Machzzzz1 *is flater around the corners compaired to the F 2000. *Mine still come up but not like my old 97 Mach1. *I'm happy with the CK3 chassie *the Zx chassie would be nice too. *as long as the triple stayes alive that is all that maters and it is a two stroke
May be skidoo will an X package on the Mach Z next year. *I mean like the old X package a power upgrade not a short brake lever and decals and shocks.
Mikadoo 01-30-2002, 03:48 PM Put the Bolvin connectors on that CK-3, that will keep her down! http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
MrZzz 01-30-2002, 10:32 PM Machzzzz1, if you have your ACM nut tighten all the way then you would be correct, there isn't much ski lift. *But loosen that nut and you'll have all the ski lift you could ever want making Kidrocker correct. And yes I have the AD Bovin kit and this still is the case. http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
I preffer a little ski lift for the added traction that equates to harder acceleration. *You can always put them back down in time to make the corner. http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
MY wife's Mxz 800 doesn't have half the lift I can get out of My Z even on an incline.
Machzzzz1, what position is your limiter strap in?
Machzzzz1 01-31-2002, 12:38 PM Im not talking about skilift cause by acceleration. *I talking about the kind that you get in sharp corners. *Like your tipping over. *
I dont have ACM i have the coupling blocks it SC-10 2. *
I ride the trails with the suspention fully coupled and I race with it parcially coupled. *
And when its only on parcially i could swear it would go all the way over during accel. *
By the way. *Instead of playing with horse power and clutch i spend all my time dialing in the handling of my sled. *Every sled i owned was better handling then the latest stock sled. *
I got the persison skis and understand the sc-10 suspention really well. *My mach corners flat and hardly pushes. *I have raced many zx mxz in corners and have never lost or gotten out of control. *However they were. *
You can put as much power in a sled as you want but nothing beats a well handling machine. *The kind were it feels like its on rails and you hardly have to lean and the G-force in corners is better then the accel.
MrZzz 01-31-2002, 04:22 PM OK my mistake I didn't know you were talking about cornering. *Yes I would have to agree that the Mach is one of the most stable sleds that I have ridden in fact the few friends that I let ride my Mach have commented on it as well.
How do you like those new percision skis on it. *I haven't had a chance to try them on any doos yet, bdt have seriously considering getting them.
midnight screamer 01-31-2002, 10:16 PM Guys~ Isn't the reason for no ski lift due to the weight of the sled? *Sorry about such a stupid question... http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Machzzzz1 02-01-2002, 11:47 AM No it has to do with the balance, Center of gravity and suspention settings. *You want a little bit of sled but enough to go around the turn.
kennypope 02-01-2002, 12:10 PM My F-3 800 with jaw's pipes and porting is a Mach Z with a little more jam then a stock mach, Then I widened out the front end, put in a coupler for the sc-10 went to hpg shocks, put on a 1.25" track. Then I was very impressed with this sled all around good handling and very quick and took bumps well. * Then this year I got a 800 renegade as a second sled, totally stock and for trail riding It overshadows my F-3 in every way except for top end speed, but it gets such a good jump on the F-3 it will take a while for it to catch it. But if they combine the best of both these sleds then there will be a lot of happy sleders next season!! http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
headgasket 02-01-2002, 09:21 PM FIRST ,LETS ALL PRAY FOR THE RETURN OF THE MIGHTY MACH Z.IT IS ONE OF THE BEST SKI-DOO HAS EVER PRODUCED.I GOT RID OF MINE THINKING I WAS GOING TO SOMETHING BETTER IN THE FORM OF A MXZX-800.NOT A BAD MACHINE,BUT ONCE YOU'VE HAD THE TRIPLE NOTHING ELSE WILL DOO....................YOU NEVER REALIZE HOW MUCH YOU MISS SOMETHING UNTIL ITS GONE.
Machzzzz1 02-11-2002, 07:48 PM I guess Feb 18 is judgement day.
midnight screamer 02-16-2002, 01:21 AM Machzzzz1~ *I sure hope you get what you want! *I would also like to see it the way you were talking about. *Lets stomp some more grass and ice with them! later
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SKI-DOOD 02-16-2002, 03:26 AM On the skidoo site the date is Feb 25 for the 2003 line up
Rotax_Kid 02-16-2002, 09:10 AM Just something to chew on, I don't claim to know a ton about this, but I'v heard a few htings, if Doo were to go DFI...it woul dbe larger than a 800..980-1000cc, unless they have developed some sort of new injector system, the triple wouldn't be able to pull much over 7500 rpm b/c the current problem is that the injector cannot properly do it's job at speeds much faster than that. *I'm only speculating here..But I think with Cat leaving the market, and the Poo comingback unchanged, I think there's a huge market hole here that Doo could jump right into with a machine that's more up to date technology and chassis wise. * Just a though though..
No1Hookman 02-19-2002, 07:11 PM http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif The Mach Z will, in fact, return for the '03 season. *Complete with the SC-10-III suspension and precision skis.
dooman 02-20-2002, 11:14 AM dealer show is in reno this weekend so we will be able to see the line up at our dealers on monday,no more speculation just the facts. I predict a zx mach z. http://www.snowmobileworld.com/forums/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
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