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800MXZ
12-31-2002, 10:53 AM
I just got done setting up a RX1 with a ExpertX. Does this thing look awesome or what!

ZIPPARS02mxz800sp
12-31-2002, 10:55 AM
cool looks awsome. :devil: :devil: :devil: :inlove:

Downriver Thunder
12-31-2002, 10:58 AM
Sweeeeeeeet!! :devil: :devil:

cooley
12-31-2002, 11:08 AM
nasty. i would stop and get out of the way if i seen that coming at me :D

Heavy
12-31-2002, 11:12 AM
Awsome.

SNOWFREAK
12-31-2002, 11:26 AM
or what.

mxz600rer
12-31-2002, 11:29 AM
Looks great! Have you had a chance to try it out yet?

Steven Hohman
12-31-2002, 11:30 AM
Oh man thats a great looking suspension on that sled.....too bad there isn't much snow so he can find out how it works in Michigan

BGTRK19472
12-31-2002, 11:32 AM
Thats looks like the ticket for the overweight sled market! I can only imagine hitting the big whoops on a sled that with the average rider comes in around 800lb's. :p

Sled Dogg
12-31-2002, 01:16 PM
The RX-1 isn't over weight so accewpt it. what is an extra 60 or so pounds/ Nothing in my book for what your getting and how it's balanced. The Xpert-X is for all sleds as stock suspensions suck compared to it. I'm so sick of everyone basyhing the RX-1, grow the heck up lil boys. Till you've banged the trails with one shut your mouths and put up. Like the F7 owner ran his mouth to me how my old pos polaris ultra spx was junk. Till we were doing 80-90+ through 3-5ft moguls and he couldn't lose me.
Caleb

Kiote
12-31-2002, 02:18 PM
The sled looks good. But BGTRK19472 is right you will push 800 pounds (with an average rider)... The trail sled tips the scales at 550 dry pounds give or take, and the mountain is about 30 pounds heavier... I think that everyone only seeing the weight and not the over all sled...... I myself wouldn't want one, but I'm not saying they aren't a good sled with alot going for them. Yamaha is going in a good direction. They need to put it on a diet. The biggest problem would be getting them unstuck, (I know there are a few of you that don't get stuck, and you know what they say. If you haven't been stuck, you haven't been in good snow). Even at 60 pounds over on the light side of the two mentioned, they would get to be alot to handle over the course of the day.... That is my two cents worth..........

cooley
12-31-2002, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by BGTRK19472@Dec 31 2002, 12:32 PM
Thats looks like the ticket for the overweight sled market! I can only imagine hitting the big whoops on a sled that with the average rider comes in around 800lb's. :p
WHO CARES HOW MUCH IT WEIGHS. EVERY SLED IS HEAVY IF THEY ARE STUCK OR YOUR TRYING TO TOSS AROUND TO TURN. I DRIVE A 2003 MXZ600 HO RENEGADE WHICH WEIGHS WHAT 489LBS AND I WEIGH 215, SO THERE IS CLOSE TO 700 LBS BUT IT STILL FLIES DOWN THE TRAIL AT 100MPH AND IM SURE THE RX1 WILL DO MORE SO WEIGHT ISNT A FACTOR. DID YOU EVER LIFT A SLED OFF A TRUCK BY YOURSELF, NO IM SURE YOU DIDNT SO LETS GET OFF THE WEIGHT THING AND START LOOKING AT THE SLED ITSELF..........................

BGTRK19472
12-31-2002, 02:52 PM
I will agree that the rx-1 would be a great trail sled. But the question I would ask if you think that it is so great why did you go and install a expert rear skid? If the sled is so good it should not need any upgrades! The only reason I would upgrade would be for improvement in performance or a possible weight reduction! Does the expert skid weigh less than the factory skid? I have owned many large sleds one being a 96 vmax4, and that sled wet came in around 600 wet. It was a handfull to ride. :0:

Sled Dogg
12-31-2002, 03:06 PM
Of course the guy installed the AD Boivin Xpert-X suspension because of it's performance! geesh, thats a no brainer. And it is lighter than stock a tad. But it's installed for all of the different performance gains and no stock suspension compares to an Xpert-X or Highly dialed in M-10.
Caleb

Steven Hohman
12-31-2002, 03:31 PM
:withstupid: :withstupid: Great point there, Caleb, the stock yammi is nowhere close to that Expert-X skid.....its like comparing a ford with a benz..

ZR Sled Head
12-31-2002, 04:17 PM
Great looking ride ya got there.
I do not own nor have I ridden an RX-1, but yes I followed a couple throught the rought stuff last weekend. After doing so and watching the way they rode, there is no doubt in my mine buying the Expert-X was money very well spent.
Good choice over the M-10/stock suspension, I'll bet you'll be very pleased.

Rick.

DoTheDoo800
12-31-2002, 04:34 PM
She is a thing of beauty. Will you ever have a chance to take it out for a test ride?
As for the other lads Yamaha is a leader in off road and street bike market. They have now brought this technology to the snow. Yamaha will lighten and improve this sled every year. If Ski-Doo released a copy of this machine tomorrow the RX-1 would be 20 pounds lighter a 10 hp stronger before the ink dried on the first comparison report. It will just take a few years or small improvements to get it to where we want it.

SWRules

andw1
12-31-2002, 04:51 PM
I think the RX-1 is a great sled except for #1 the price #2 the crappy pro-action rear susp. Looks like you took care of #2, now if yammi could follow you and drop the price about 12-15%, I'd be standing in line! :D

Mighty RX-1
12-31-2002, 05:46 PM
You guys that keep bringing up the weight issue wake up. Go take one for a ride and see for yourself how it handles. The RX-1 weighs about the same as my machz but rides like it's 100 pounds lighter. Like I said, go take one for a ride. Until you do, drop it :angry:

SD_Sledhead
12-31-2002, 05:50 PM
I agree with DotheDoo. For what is in this sled, a 4 cylinder, 4 cycle engine, it is amazing that they even got it as light as they did! Look how far snowmobiles have come over the last few years, the RX has potential.

Frostbit
12-31-2002, 05:56 PM
LMAO @ Snow Freak

cooley
12-31-2002, 05:57 PM
800mxz started this post , to show us how nice the rx1 looked with the expert x suspension not how much it weights so get off the :cussing: sh*t and tell how it really looks nice

Mighty RX-1
12-31-2002, 05:59 PM
As far as price goes, what else is there on the market with all of the technology of the RX-1 for its price? I'll tell ya, nothing. Take just the engine; Inline-4, dual overhead cams, 5 valves per cylinder and electric start is standard! Electric start on most sleds is $500.00 alone.

Mighty RX-1
12-31-2002, 06:01 PM
Oops, Boy that sure looks sweet :D

fastandf7urios
12-31-2002, 06:03 PM
please let me tell you i purchased a 03 f7 snopro st and studded 153 count, i could ask for more and do more but why this sled set up that way is way faster than any machine i have to put up with as for the RX1 it is sweet machine but could yammie could use some lessons form richard simmons. :blahblah: :blahblah:

Mighty RX-1
12-31-2002, 06:05 PM
In 2 years, I want to see what sled is in better shape, the F-7 or RX-1, anybody wanna make a bet?

andw1
12-31-2002, 07:08 PM
My complaint of the price is that the bike with almost the exact same motor is almost $2000 less prices are getting out of control on sleds in general, look at just about any sled, the 500's use almost the exact same parts as the 800's, so they basically chage you thousands of dollars for a couple pounds of Aluminum.

800MXZ
12-31-2002, 08:40 PM
Please guys, I started the thread to show the setup. I just installed the Expert and thought the 16 inches of axle travel would be cool. I think it looks tight.

If ya want to debate the sled, please start a thread. No bad carma, just didn't want to kick the hornet's nest here.

ZR Sled Head
12-31-2002, 08:56 PM
How about a pic with you sitting on it to see the ride height.
Thnkx
Rick.

dooittoit
12-31-2002, 09:03 PM
I have to admit that is one bad#$! looking sled. Didn't realize that a different suspension could make it look that much better.

sled-head
12-31-2002, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Sled Dogg@Dec 31 2002, 05:16 PM
The RX-1 isn't over weight so accewpt it. what is an extra 60 or so pounds/ Nothing in my book for what your getting and how it's balanced. The Xpert-X is for all sleds as stock suspensions suck compared to it. I'm so sick of everyone basyhing the RX-1, grow the heck up lil boys. Till you've banged the trails with one shut your mouths and put up. Like the F7 owner ran his mouth to me how my old pos polaris ultra spx was junk. Till we were doing 80-90+ through 3-5ft moguls and he couldn't lose me.
Caleb
Somebody actually called your sled a piece of junk.........what an errogant a$$ hole. Do all snowmobilers have a case of small man syndrome? I dont think there is another sport on the planet that is this competative. I have also noticed more than ever alot of ignorant comments on peoples posts :( .....we should have a rule here that we dont pick on new members to the site so people will have a positive experience here so this site will grow................Hey The RX1 with the Expert suspention looks good........Happy new year

Steven Hohman
12-31-2002, 09:09 PM
Now that is insane.

Heavy
12-31-2002, 09:12 PM
I had put alot of miles on a rx1 and this sled keeps getting better and better every time I ride it. You would never think this sled is as heavy as it is when your riding it. This weekend im gonna race a 2003 mach z and will post the outcome. Should be interseting.

AKCAT
01-01-2003, 02:17 AM
Sno-Tech says they weight 600lbs, but hey who cares, you don't carry it on your back. Great looking sled...............

PANTERAONE
01-01-2003, 03:30 AM
i cant say enough good things about the expert-x,it will improve the rx1 big time....im always so happy to get back on my expert after trading off with someone,you just dont realize how it eats up the stutters until you start driving another sled.....looks good 800mxz :p :p

Wolfman
01-01-2003, 09:54 AM
First and foremost, the sled with the suspension upgrade looks awesome!!! I would be curious to hear how it rides.

For the bashers, I finally had the opportunity to see one in person when I went to Colorado for a couple of days a few weeks ago. EVERYTHING about the RX-1 is massive. It sounds good, feels good (on the showroom floor anyway,) and is NOT overly difficult to lift and move. The one I lookied at was on a stand, setting the bumper above my waistline. I was still able to pick it up off of the stand, and I'm NOT a weighlifter by any means. I've heard very little complaints thus far in the season from those who have bought and ridden them. The closest competitor is Ski Doo with an approximately 65 hp DISADVANTAGE!!!

As far as price, Yamaha always seems to be the "Caddilac" of the snowmobile market. The RX-1 looks and feels no different.

Yamaha has a good thing with this sled. If ya don't like it, nobody is forcing you to buy one.

Frankly, the RX-1 is at the top of my list as soon as I am in a position to buy one. I have ZERO brand loyalty.

MXZonly
01-01-2003, 10:33 AM
Dave

That looks awesome.

How hard is it to install?

Did you end up with one on your MXZ? If so lets see some pictures of that.

How do these Expert X suspensions ride compared to SC 10 2s and SC 10 3s?

I wonder how they handle big bumps at high speeds. I know the SC 10s of all varieties that Ive had have been pretty good in these situations but not always so good in the stutters. The SC 10 3 seems to be the best so far overall. I tried putting a SC 10 3 into my 01 MXZ 800 X but couldnt seem to get to work right. The Expert suspension comes with mounting kits that bolt right in? But I guess the cost is probably 3 times what I could get a SC 10 3 for right?

BellevilleMXZ
01-01-2003, 10:46 AM
What problems did you have getting the SC10-III to work? I put one in my 00 700 and it works great!!

RX1 looks wicked with that in it! Wish I could try a sled with one of these in it to see how it rides. Is it tippy with it that high?

Heavy
01-01-2003, 11:04 AM
MXZonly, I have compared both suspension, My sc10 2 against panteraone's expert x and there is a difference, Like you said the stutter bumbs is where the expert x shines. The expert is a lot smoother and it hooks up better.

z800rotax
01-01-2003, 11:11 AM
Looks sweet ;) I'm thinkin of going the expert route as well if i keep mine another year :)

MXZonly
01-01-2003, 02:39 PM
Id really like to know how the Expert X does in the big stuff.

Belleville you just bolted the Sc 10 3 directly in?

I got a SC 10 3 X to replace my SC 10 2 X and I first had to wrestle the rear arm ahead a ways to bolt it up then when you would push on or sit on the sled it would only go down about half way and hit what felt like a brick wall. It was like bang that was it, only half of the travel then bang. I had my wifes 02 600 X to compare it to side by side and hers had double the travel. You could feel it go to the bottom of the shock stroke then bottom. I sat the 3 and my old 2 side by side and there was a 3/4" to 1" difference in where the rear arm bolted to the tunnel. I asked on some forums, I cant remember if it was on here or just amsnow but a couple of guys told me I would have to remove and move forward my rear mounts on the tunnel so I said forget that and sold the SC 10 3. I called a few dealers and asked them also: 1 didnt know, 1 didnt think so, and 1 said NO not without modifications.
Now I have a couple of different guys from here telling me it works just fine, I dont get it.

If it does work fine I am MAD because I had the suspension I wanted and sold it.

caper711cc
01-01-2003, 03:21 PM
Yes it does look nice.Goe4it the best thing you can hope for
that the lake is 7 miles long in order to win.The other people
that post (who have taken abuse)have stated"it is a trail machine"
and other then one owner down here the remaining guy`s decline to
to race when they line up on the airport strip.I accept the answer
and no one say`s any thing about it.Till people start ramming it down
your throat how fast it is .Look in the racing section you will see a post
on speed on ice 103 in 1000`ft .You will only add fuel to the fire by
poking sharp stick`s at some" mean dogs and cats".just my .02 cents
Cape Breton Stock..............................

MXZonly
01-01-2003, 04:39 PM
Belleville;

Id love to see some close ups of your suspension, the upper shock position area and etc.

I wonder if the fact that I had bought a X and yours looks to be a sport SC 10 3 had any thing to do with it?

I just dont know.

If this is possible Id be game to try again. Just bolting it in my sled I gained 2 inches from the bumper to the floor.

BellevilleMXZ
01-01-2003, 05:18 PM
Far as I know, all the Hard pieces are the same, arms, rails, links, etc.I'll take some pics tomorrow or the next day if I can remember , It will be in the garage then.Hey if your 600 has a III in it, measure from the back of the front arm tube where it mounts, then measure yours and see if there is a difference.

Heavy
01-01-2003, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by caper711cc@Jan 1 2003, 08:21 PM
Yes it does look nice.Goe4it the best thing you can hope for
that the lake is 7 miles long in order to win.The other people
that post (who have taken abuse)have stated"it is a trail machine"
and other then one owner down here the remaining guy`s decline to
to race when they line up on the airport strip.I accept the answer
and no one say`s any thing about it.Till people start ramming it down
your throat how fast it is .Look in the racing section you will see a post
on speed on ice 103 in 1000`ft .You will only add fuel to the fire by
poking sharp stick`s at some" mean dogs and cats".just my .02 cents
Cape Breton Stock..............................
I do think the mach is going to win but its just for fun.

MichYamaha
01-01-2003, 08:09 PM
Nice work on that RX-1 Dave :D :thumbsup: I wish I could have seen the finished product in person :p :D

800MXZ
01-01-2003, 11:25 PM
lol

Steven Hohman
01-01-2003, 11:26 PM
How many hours for installation? How many beers?

NDMtnSledder
01-02-2003, 12:20 AM
That looks great with the expert x on there. I think your going to have to try to get a test ride on it and let us know what you think. I saw a RX1 Mt for the first time today on a trailer headed west looked like a nice sled.

petestoy
01-02-2003, 08:28 AM
Guys this is somebodys pride and joy its a beautiful looking sled and I am sure he loves to ride it. If their are any problems (Like all sleds) then so be it don't bash the guys pride and joy after he posts a pic because he is so proud of it. Put yourself in his shoes and see how you would like it! Good job on the sled and enjoy!!!!

MikeD
01-02-2003, 10:22 AM
I'm a life long ski doo guy but I gotta say, that is one awsome looking sled. I'd have no problem jumpin on that a going for a rip!!!

Beaucoup Traction
01-02-2003, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Sled Dogg@Dec 31 2002, 01:16 PM
Till we were doing 80-90+ through 3-5ft moguls and he couldn't lose me.
Caleb
:sarcasm: so minus your suspension travel, at that speed your sled is moving up and down 2-4 feet huh? hmmmm

that suspension looks awesome though. i'm not a huge fan of yamaha sleds, especially since they quit snowcross, but i'll admit that is a nice looking ride.

jimme
01-02-2003, 11:38 AM
hey guys ill be the first to tell you
the rx1 is very cool

absolutely smooth power that never stops i had one on the lake yesterday and saw 125 mph and it had plenty left in it (i was just out of room)

it is an absolute blast
it will definately be a great get on it and ride it sled
yeah theyt may be heavy for drag racing but in the trails and on the lake they are great

props to yamaha
and im sure they'll rework anything they can to make it better!

did i mention i own an artic cat (02 zr 800 bone stock)
and its a close race till 85-90 then the rx1 just keeps pullin!!!!!!!!!
and for you guys who think the thundercat will kick its ###
it will until about 100 then the thundercats run out of steam (compared to rx1 )
that four stroke just keeps going PERIOD

Sled Dogg
01-02-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Beaucoup Traction+Jan 2 2003, 11:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Beaucoup Traction @ Jan 2 2003, 11:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Sled Dogg@Dec 31 2002, 01:16 PM
Till we were doing 80-90+ through 3-5ft moguls and he couldn&#39;t lose me.
Caleb
:sarcasm: so minus your suspension travel, at that speed your sled is moving up and down 2-4 feet huh? hmmmm

that suspension looks awesome though. i&#39;m not a huge fan of yamaha sleds, especially since they quit snowcross, but i&#39;ll admit that is a nice looking ride. [/b][/quote]
Yeah, I was definetly not getting the nice ride tha F7 rider was. I was up and down and left to right. My sled is actually pretty decent when be flogged hard even with the suspension set to soft. Can&#39;t wait to try it with all the shocks set stiffer. I don&#39;t recomend it for shock longevity but i pound my stuff into the dirt, litterly on this trip lol. I need a sno pro or pro-x 440. Anyone want to sell me one cheap?
Caleb

phazerhater
01-02-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by petestoy@Jan 2 2003, 07:28 AM
Guys this is somebodys pride and joy its a beautiful looking sled and I am sure he loves to ride it. If their are any problems (Like all sleds) then so be it don&#39;t bash the guys pride and joy after he posts a pic because he is so proud of it. Put yourself in his shoes and see how you would like it! Good job on the sled and enjoy!!!!
:withstupid: I&#39;m not much of a yammi fan, but that is one sweet looking sled!! :thumbsup:

Chubby
01-02-2003, 03:52 PM
I think i see space for one or two more studs...LOL

Papas MachZ
01-02-2003, 10:49 PM
Looks Crrrraaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :D :D :D :devil: :devil: :devil:

Papas MachZ
01-02-2003, 10:50 PM
Lol :D :D :D

BLEEDIN GREEN
01-02-2003, 10:56 PM
I like everything about that sled---except the color------SHE&#39;S GOTTA BE GREEN!!!! :D
Bleedin&#39; :devil: