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02-28-2003, 09:39 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: sw NH
Where I sled: sw N.H.
Posts: 20
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I know it's been talked about on the forum before but it seems like for a few bucks we could all have a little more cooling effeciency for our sleds.Is anyone using it?Does it work?
Last night my temp light came on 10 or 15 times in 25 miles!The temp was around 20F and I was riding on 3' of snow.The only problem was it rained here on sunday and all the trails had a thick crust of ice and were pretty much powderless.I had to keep driving off the trail,stopping and then gunning it to throw some snow up into the exchanger.
I wouldn't expect a miracle cure with the redline product but I suppose I could have gone a little longer before needing to tunnel like a mole in the snow.There also have been a lot of reports about the rev motors not having enough heat dissapation causing the rings eventually grind to a halt.I dont know squat about water wetter but if it kept our motors running 10 or 15 degrees cooler on average it seems to me to be a wise investment
What does everyone think??
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02-28-2003, 10:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: S-E Lower, Michigan
Mileage: 1115 miles
Primary Sled: The old purple pile
Where I sled: Frederic to Lake Gogebic & everywhere in between
Posts: 2,422
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Been there done that, save your money! Besides, what is 10-15 degrees going to do for ya?
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03-01-2003, 07:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Epping, New Hampshire USA
Primary Sled: SD MXZ Renegade 800 RER
Where I sled: New Hampshire or wherever there's snow
Posts: 751
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Dont bother with water wetter.......use some self control and stay off the trails until we get some better snow......you are taking BIG chances if the temp light is coming on that often. That light is the engines way of telling you "your hurting me".
Right now, the sled dealers in NH are loving life.....people keep riding on trails of frozen ice and cooking engines, tracks, ski's etc. All the stuff that gets beat up buy the conditions we have at the moment. The parts and service departments at the dealers I know are real busy just because people "have to ride".
my .02 cents......nobody listens anyway
Todd
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03-01-2003, 01:09 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: STERLING IL.
Posts: 556
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I totally disagree. I have heard of as much as 20-25 degree drop when using the redline water wetter. Like nhrev said cheap ins. I will take a 20 deg. drop any day especially with this series 3 motor. I have wasted alot more money on less product before as i am sure most of you have also. I say WHY NOT !!
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03-01-2003, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: L7 C2 oakland twp 44 King St N RR 4 Scotland N0E 1R0, southwest of brantford, southern ontario
Mileage: 2487 miles
Primary Sled: 2007 blizzard 600
Where I sled: southern ontario and wisconsin.
Posts: 11,656
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even if "speed is everything" is wrong {i'm not saying he is wrong} at 20-25 degrees and it is only 10-15 degrees. go for it, the whole system will be that much cooler. i have never had a cooling problem yet with the sled and i know that the hard no fluff snow can be trouble though.
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03-01-2003, 05:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Quakertown PA
Where I sled: Old forge NY
Posts: 190
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I use that stuff in my race car...the stuff definitly works. I would use it in the sled..20-25 deg. is alot for an eng...Its a little safegaurd
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03-01-2003, 06:28 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: iowa flatlander
Where I sled: ditches, fields, and river and lake ice!!
Posts: 285
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i also run water wetter in my dirt modified race car, but that is with a much bigger cooling ststem, a fan, and a radiator, in 90 degree temps, in a four stroke car motor. i was wondering if your coolant is properly mixed to begin with? here we run on the river at times with no snow on it at all and i never get above 165 on the digitron. if everything cooling system wise is correct, i was, and you would be too, how little snow you need to keep it cool. just my .02.
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03-01-2003, 09:30 PM
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#8
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: sw NH
Where I sled: sw N.H.
Posts: 20
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I just looked through a Summit racing catalog.Water wetter is like 7 bucks.Cheap!
sdrene800rer,it is not my intention to use water wetter so I can continue to ride in poor conditions.Now that I know exactly what the threshold is before the light comes on I will use better judgement and NOT ride.My question was,is it a good inexpensive insurance 'mod'.In other words,lets say the product does work.Maybe the temp light would not have come on as often,or at all.There was SOME loose snow on the trails,just not enough to keep the engine suffeciently cooled.The water wetter,potentially,could have 'saved' the engine from excessive heat.
Also,I hope ski-doo would not calibrate the light to turn on when it's close to "too late".What would be the point of having the light at all?(then again we do have that crappy gas guage! :doh: )
For 7 smackers,I'll give it a shot.It can't hurt,I hope.
All posts are appreciated.We do listen,sdrene800rer.
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03-02-2003, 10:18 AM
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#9
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Epping, New Hampshire USA
Primary Sled: SD MXZ Renegade 800 RER
Where I sled: New Hampshire or wherever there's snow
Posts: 751
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I guess I should have qualifyed my reasoning better on why I beleive that this a "mod" not worth doing in a snowmobile.
I feel that those type products are really intended for use in warm weather situations. I agree with clutchman and Nicks800x on the use of it for a racing situation. I raced stock cars for quite a few years and used a product called Liquid Cool.....in racing your not allowed to use any type of anti freeze and this stuff dissapeared in the cooling system so that it wasnt visable when mixed with water. When its 90degrees out with humidity at 90% and dew points in the 70's in a racing engine thats tuned to run on the edge of meltdown with the timing advanced to the 30 degree+ range.....well you get the picture. I have a Jeep TJ that is my daily driver that also see's some offroad use and I use Liquid Cool in that because of the slow speed use in the woods during the summer months. I guess the point that Im being so longwinded about and trying to make is, Is the snowmobile cooling system capable of making use of this type of product? and will it still drop the temps 10-15 degrees when the sleds cooling is reliant on the cold and snow to work properly anyway?
I have not tryed any of the Redline products yet, but I have always heard good comments about them, and yes 6 or 7 bucks is not a lot to spend to try something out, but becareful on how much you use. The entire cooling system on that sled isnt very large so maybe an ounce or 2 is all it needs.
Todd
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