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06-01-2003, 08:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Troll Land
Posts: 138
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ever wonder where your snowmobile dollars actually go? Here is the answer....the best I have found so far at least.
"Revenues for the recreational and snowmobile trail grant program are derived from snowmobile registration fees, snowmobile trail permit fees, and from a portion of the State gasoline tax. The current snowmobile registration fee is $22.00 for three years. Of the $22.00 per three-year registration fee, $17.00 goes into the snowmobile registration fee fund.
The $17.00 deposited into the snowmobile registration fee fund is designated for law enforcement and safety training (not less than $14.00) and administration of the registration provisions of Part 821 (not more than $3.00). Deposits into the registration fee fund draw interest and are carried forward in the fund into succeeding years until expended.
The remaining $5.00 of the registration fee is deposited into the recreational snowmobile trail improvement fund.
Under Part 821, in addition to the registration requirement, a person who operates a snowmobile in Michigan, including out-of-state operators, is required to purchase a Michigan snowmobile trail permit sticker. The current annual permit fee is $20.00. Of this, $18.75 is placed in the recreational snowmobile trail improvement fund. The agent selling the permit retains $0.75 per permit and the remaining $0.50 is used for administration of the permit system.
Funds from the snowmobile trail improvement fund are appropriated to the Department by the State Legislature for the purpose of planning, constructing, maintaining, and acquiring trails and areas for the use of snowmobile, or access to those trails and areas, and basic snowmobile facilities.
Two percent (2%) of the State gasoline tax is deposited into the recreational improvement fund. Fourteen percent (14%) of this is transferred into the recreational snowmobile trail improvement fund. The registration fees, trail permit fees, and that portion of the gas tax transferred into the snowmobile trail improvement fund draw interest and are carried forward into succeeding years in their respective funds until they are expended."
What this breaks down to a year per a snowmobile is:
$4.66 to saftey training and law enforcement
$2.25 for administration and sales
$20.42 for snowmobile trail fund
and .28% of the gas tax collected everyyear is put toward the snowmobile trail fund
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06-02-2003, 07:09 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Fredericton (freddy) New Brunswick Canada
Primary Sled: 2004 f6 efi
Where I sled: New Brunswick
Posts: 4,733
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i hope its simular here in NB, which i am sure it is.............
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06-06-2003, 07:42 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Imlay City, MI
Where I sled: Eastern U.P. & Northwest Lower
Posts: 98
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That was interesting to know, thanks for that bit of info.
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06-08-2003, 06:04 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: L7 C2 oakland twp 44 King St N RR 4 Scotland N0E 1R0, southwest of brantford, southern ontario
Mileage: 2487 miles
Primary Sled: 2007 blizzard 600
Where I sled: southern ontario and wisconsin.
Posts: 11,656
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if i read that right michigan sledders pay $7.33 per year and in ontario we pay $170.00 per year plus a $15.00 licence permit. where's the difference ?
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06-08-2003, 03:26 PM
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Administrator_X
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: SW Michigan!!
Mileage: 710
Primary Sled: 2005 MXZ REV 800 'XXX'
Where I sled: Where ever it takes me
Posts: 5,120
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I'm not quite sure what you are saying there Paul.
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06-09-2003, 05:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Troll Land
Posts: 138
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Paul, we pay $20 a year for Trail Permit and $22 every 3 years for registration.
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"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future"-Adolf Hitler, 1935
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06-09-2003, 08:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 305
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i got more info about mich money pi$$ed away.
if you have the michigan outdoor news....(feb-03)
there is a artical in it about a federal audit,
of how the mich DNR misspent $2.4 million
they had accepted the mistake and agreed to,
repay the money to the fish and game fund. a payment of $1.9 mill,
will be payed to the game fund,
and that money will be taken from the
GET READY FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the snowmobile and orv... fund.
the remaining ballance will come from general fund's.
but......but......but .....the d.n.r has a alibi
they clame they f#*%ed on there time cards
it seem's the officers charged the fish and game department
for time spent on snowmobile inforcment.
this took place in 1996-and-1997.
so they should have charged the snowmobile fund for,
this service,
this all has been explained to the michigan snowmobile association,
and the legislature.
so every thing is AOK now.
i am so happy that my trail permit money is wisely spent. :doh:
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06-12-2003, 07:56 AM
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#8
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Lincoln Park, MI
Primary Sled: 2003 Honda Shadow Sabre 1100
Where I sled: Lewiston, Atlanta, Gaylord, Grayling
Posts: 3,939
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No matter how you put it, I have never seen any improvements where I ride. Can I get a refund? lol
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06-12-2003, 05:51 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: S-E Lower, Michigan
Mileage: 1115 miles
Primary Sled: The old purple pile
Where I sled: Frederic to Lake Gogebic & everywhere in between
Posts: 2,422
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Quote:
Originally posted by ARCTICZRT600@Jun 12 2003, 07:56 AM
No matter how you put it, I have never seen any improvements where I ride.* Can I get a refund?* lol*
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I'am with ya on that one man!
It wouldn't matter if the fund had 10 billion dollars in it, the government would find a way to pi$$ it away!
Kind of ironic, if you or I stole from the taxpayers, we would be in prison, must be different when your an elected official?
Funny how MSA and the government thinks by raising trail fees it will make the trails better!??
You can groom that same one trail that the loggers made 150 years ago or abanded rail grade all day long and NEVER have it smooth with 1000 sleds an hour traveling it.
My answer to that,,,,build more trails. Gollyeeee Gomer, that's what the state does when the roads get to packed, guess us scum snowmobilers dont qualify!
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06-13-2003, 05:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Lincoln Park, MI
Primary Sled: 2003 Honda Shadow Sabre 1100
Where I sled: Lewiston, Atlanta, Gaylord, Grayling
Posts: 3,939
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mikadoo@Jun 12 2003, 06:51 PM
I'am with ya on that one man!
It wouldn't matter if the fund had 10 billion dollars in it, the government would find a way to pi$$ it away!
Kind of ironic, if you or I stole from the taxpayers, we would be in prison, must be different when your an elected official?
Funny how MSA and the government thinks by raising trail fees it will make the trails better!??
You can groom that same one trail that the loggers made 150 years ago or abanded rail grade all day long and NEVER have it smooth with 1000 sleds an hour traveling it.
My answer to that,,,,build more trails. Gollyeeee Gomer, that's what the state does when the roads get to packed, guess us scum snowmobilers dont qualify!
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