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10-08-2004, 04:51 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Canada
Primary Sled: 1994 Ski-Doo Formula STX
Where I sled: Ontario
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Hey Guys, i have a couple questions, i sold my mx and now i'm looking to upgrade to something newer. I have about $1500 MAX to spend. I need help deciding which sled i should look for.
Currently i am looking at 1993-1994 Polaris XLT 600's and 1993'ish Mach 1 583/617's
I want to have a 583 minimum for a motor, so i really want to stay around 583, 600, 617, or maybe 670 if i find out what insurance is going to cost me.
What are some good SKi-Doos for this price/year range? If i'm going to get a Polaris i will only consider the XLT.
Please no Arctic Cats. 
I want, reliable, quick, nice for trails and mostly field running, and preferably with electric start.
Any opinions are greatly appriciated and could i have some pros cons on each sled and how much life i can expect to get from that motor.
Thanks guys your a great help!
SWRules
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1994 Chevrolet Lumina Z34
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10-08-2004, 05:03 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Saint Joseph, Minnesota
Mileage: not enough
Primary Sled: 2003 REVX 800MOD, 05 GSX 600 Limited
Where I sled: Minnesota and the U.P.
Posts: 1,130
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The mach would probably take the Xtra leaky triple. I'd keep looking, you should be able to get somthing a little newer. The XLT-SP in 95 get you the x-tra 12. Watch out for the bad cranks in the XLT's. Mach is a nice sled, i think it would have full gauges, kinda nice, it's a heavy bit though. Don't expect it to be a ditch bannger. Over the 2, i would take the Doo, but thats what i ride, Polaris guy's would say different.
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10-08-2004, 06:50 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Canada
Primary Sled: 1994 Ski-Doo Formula STX
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what motor mach would take the XLT? i doubt the 583?
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10-08-2004, 07:47 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Sudbury,Northern Ont
Mileage: 1268
Primary Sled: 01 ZR 600 VEV
Where I sled: Chelmsford,Northern Ont
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buy mine 1800
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Current sled 01 ZR 700 X
3.5 Oles Machine riser,1.25 ripsaw,388/389 rear springs,45deg hooks,Shell Utra Oil
Previous sleds-69 Dauphin--71 SW 396--75 GPX338--85 Safari 447--87 Safari 377
89 Safari Scout E--84 SRV 540--86 SRV 540--91 Indy 500--87 Indy 400
2nd 91 Indy 500 --95 STX 583-- 01 ZR 600 VEV
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10-08-2004, 09:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Canada
Primary Sled: 1994 Ski-Doo Formula STX
Where I sled: Ontario
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how many k's are on it? what shapes' it in? etc.. let me know.
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10-08-2004, 10:16 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Chelsea, Michigan
Mileage: 20 feet
Primary Sled: 06 X-Fire sno-pro
Where I sled: Michigan (Munising, Rose City)
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Watch out for the bad cranks in the XLT's.
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He is right. Stay away from the XLT's.. Personal.. I think either those sleds are gonna ride rough and like a tractor at high speeds.. I suggest moving on up to a an MXZ, or a formula Z is your looking for ski-doo. 96 or newer. I am sure you could find a 96 MXZ 583 for a decent price. My opion is the 670 motor is a crap shoot. There are realy good ones, and bad ones. I had a bad one once... Bitter taste still in my mouth.. :-)
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I want, reliable, quick, nice for trails and mostly field running, and preferably with electric start.
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I know you said No cats.  But I gotta say, a 98 ZR 600 EFI would not be a bad choice either. ETT tunnel = More suspension and better ride. Maybe find one for around $2000 u.s.. I rode a 98 MXZ 670 for a year.. Loved the Cats so much better... I also rode a 86 formula before that... My opion is Ski-doo didn't get there corner to corner dialed in well untill the ZX Chassie. But It's a free country. Buy what you like.. But I would spend a few more bucks and shoot for atleast a 96 ski-doo if you truly are set on Ski-doo's.. The bullet style ski-doos should come with a kidney belt.. 
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10-09-2004, 01:00 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Sudbury,Northern Ont
Mileage: 1268
Primary Sled: 01 ZR 600 VEV
Where I sled: Chelmsford,Northern Ont
Posts: 4,869
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Press the garage button on my posts 
The mileage is high (15,000k/9800m)but runs great  ,can check the comp for you to give you an idea,though if buying the sled you might as well check the comp yourself
new sliders 2 week ago and changed 1 rail last week,have the old ones to show if needed
Sled is very clean,I cleaned the Raves a month ago,greased every 2 weeks in winter,I am anal about that
Cleaning the clutches this coming week
Have spare windshield that I was suppose to paint red last year but do to ankle injury,I had no time
there are a few pics here on SW over the years
not officially for sale but if interested can be
My bros was suppose to buy it,still might but I don't want to wait,I want newer one and prices are starting to go up around here the past couple of weeks
It would be worth it to check it out 
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Current sled 01 ZR 700 X
3.5 Oles Machine riser,1.25 ripsaw,388/389 rear springs,45deg hooks,Shell Utra Oil
Previous sleds-69 Dauphin--71 SW 396--75 GPX338--85 Safari 447--87 Safari 377
89 Safari Scout E--84 SRV 540--86 SRV 540--91 Indy 500--87 Indy 400
2nd 91 Indy 500 --95 STX 583-- 01 ZR 600 VEV
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10-09-2004, 09:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Canada
Primary Sled: 1994 Ski-Doo Formula STX
Where I sled: Ontario
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freezerburnt i checked out your garage, but i would like to know what goodies it has? electric start? reverse? what is the compression? whats the track like? studded? are these trail miles or?
let me know, and the only thing is i only have $1500 canadian MAX to spend....
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10-09-2004, 09:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Canada
Primary Sled: 1994 Ski-Doo Formula STX
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also, i thought the '93-95 XLT's DIDNT have crank problems? I've been talking to a member here on SW and he says that he's owned a '93 that had 10,000miles on the original motor and 3 other buddies that havnt had any problems?
It was the '96 and newer XLT's that had the crank problems?
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1994 Chevrolet Lumina Z34
1997 Dodge Ram 1500 4X4
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10-10-2004, 12:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Sudbury,Northern Ont
Mileage: 1268
Primary Sled: 01 ZR 600 VEV
Where I sled: Chelmsford,Northern Ont
Posts: 4,869
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Check the Autotrader.ca
and compare $$$$ on the sled in there
You might even find one near you
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Current sled 01 ZR 700 X
3.5 Oles Machine riser,1.25 ripsaw,388/389 rear springs,45deg hooks,Shell Utra Oil
Previous sleds-69 Dauphin--71 SW 396--75 GPX338--85 Safari 447--87 Safari 377
89 Safari Scout E--84 SRV 540--86 SRV 540--91 Indy 500--87 Indy 400
2nd 91 Indy 500 --95 STX 583-- 01 ZR 600 VEV
Current weather in Chelmsford
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