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Old 11-23-2004, 11:44 AM   #1
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I'm having a hell of a time removing the primary clutch on a 96 Arctic Cat 580 ext. The 13mm bolt that holds it to the shaft turns out as far as the threads push it, then stops. I've tried to grab it with needle nose pliers and pull it out, but it won't come. Any ideas? I've got some bad crank bearings to replace but I'm dead in the water right now...
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:23 PM   #2
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If I am understadnign you right it sounds liek the threads on the insdie fo the crankshafts might be a little messed up, no real big deal though. Try taking an adjustable wrench, and close it around the bolt, just under the head, then while pulling out on it, spin the bolt (air wrench will work good here), you may really have to pull hard. When you do get it out, just runa tap down the crank and hopefully you still have some good threads in there (which it sounds like you do because the bolt does start to come out.

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I'm having a hell of a time removing the primary clutch on a 96 Arctic Cat 580 ext.* The 13mm bolt that holds it to the shaft turns out as far as the threads push it, then stops.* I've tried to grab it with needle nose pliers and pull it out, but it won't come.* Any ideas?* I've got some bad crank bearings to replace but I'm dead in the water right now...
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Old 11-23-2004, 02:01 PM   #3
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Isn't there a spacer in there on that year clutch? I think that may be what is holding you up possibly. You may just have to try what is mentioned above. Just keep working at it. Maybe try spraying some lube in there too.
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Old 11-23-2004, 03:53 PM   #4
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The bolt is still recessed within the clutch by about 1/4-inch. Tightened in the whole way it's about 1-inch in there. I'm thinking of taking a screwdriver and putting just a little lip at the end to hopefully grab the underside of the bolt while turning it out. I did try to pull it out with needlenose pliers but they just keep slipping, and needlenose visegrips are too thick to fit in there. I guess I'll just keep at it. I may have to drill it and tap it to thread a bolt into the bolt!Not like I had anything else to do :bash:
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:16 PM   #5
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The bolt is still recessed within the clutch by about 1/4-inch.* Tightened in the whole way it's about 1-inch in there.* I'm thinking of taking a screwdriver and putting just a little lip at the end to hopefully grab the underside of the bolt while turning it out.* I did try to pull it out with needlenose pliers but they just keep slipping, and needlenose visegrips are too thick to fit in there.* I guess I'll just keep at it.* I may have to drill it and tap it to thread a bolt into the bolt!Not like I had anything else to do :bash:
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Ahh, tha does suck, but no biggie. You could drill and tap that bolt into it, butyou would need to do a reverse thread (and easy out would work), or It may be asier to just weld another bolt (smaller one) to the one that is stuck, then just work it out that way.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:28 PM   #6
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Did you try tipping the sled on it's side and seeing if the bolt will fall out? That bolt takes a 1/2" 12 point socket, so if you were using a 13mm socket you are slightly over sized, (.3mm) to be exact, and that may be enough to not hold onto the bolt head tight enough to allow you to pull it out when it reaches the end of the treads.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:42 PM   #7
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There is a plastic spacer in there. Try blowing air around it. Or keep trying with needle nose. Hold on while someone else spins the clutch clockwise.
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Old 11-23-2004, 06:31 PM   #8
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spaceman is right. the bushing can be a pain getting out. can you get ahold of the bolt head with a pair of vise grips.
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Old 11-23-2004, 06:34 PM   #9
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oh by the way.when you go back together don't put the bushing back in. nobody does.
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:23 AM   #10
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There is a plastic spacer in there. Try blowing air around it. Or keep trying with needle nose. Hold on while someone else spins the clutch clockwise.
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Glad to see my memory serves me correctly.
Thanks Spaceman.
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