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Old 01-27-2005, 07:11 PM   #1
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The track clips on my track are rusted and rough to the touch. My sled has 6,100km's (97 Grand Touring 583) I'd like to replace them, but I understand that you need a special tool to install them. I spoke with a dealer and he told me, its not worth it to replace track clips. He said I'd be better off with replacing the track instead.

Question: Is he right? and if I were to replace the track, what kind of track is recommended for a touring sled. (non-studded).

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Old 01-27-2005, 09:23 PM   #2
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how bad can those clips be? go for a ride around the yard and look at them then because my clips get a little rust on them too but after a few miles all cleared up. if the clips are pooched and the track is fine then replace the clips.
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Old 01-28-2005, 08:15 AM   #3
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I'll agree. Track clips will look rusty in about 12 hours after you ride the sled and the snow starts to melt. And after trailing in salt spray they'll look truly nasty! But it usually rubs right off and hurts nothing. So inspect them immediately after a good ride and see what they look like. If they really are pitted, the worst you'll do is sacrifice a set of hyfax, which likely need replacement when you put your new clips/track on anyway.

If you need to replace clips, yes you'll need a special tool to crimp them on properly...figure on $60 to $100 USD for the tool depending on what kind you buy. Dennis Kirk and all their competitors sell 'em. Free or cheap if you can borrow or rent one. Plus the cost of clips. Plus you'll need a cutoff wheel or angle grinder or some tool like that to score off the old ones. And you'll need some time on your hands as it takes a little while especially if you haven't done it before. But it's not too tough. As for whether you want to go through all that or replace the track depends on your money situation and whether the rest of the track is good enough for you.

You can likely buy a good replacement track for $300-ish (US dollars, not sure in Canada) even less if you buy a used one from Ebay, and then you can sell your old one on Ebay for $50 to $100 usually, even with rusty clips. But then there's the incidentals...it might be a good time to replace your axle bearings anyway with that many miles, and that requires track removal. Then you'll want new hyfax, and as long as the skid is out you might as well go through all the wheels/bearings/shocks and make sure they're good. So in the end, a $300 USD track replacement can turn into a $500+ project real quick, but it's all stuff your sled probably needs after 6K kms and you just don't know it yet. So the choice is yours, not the dealers.

After typing all that...I betcha don't need 'em. I recently replaced a track that had almost 12,000 KM's on it because it had some blisters forming in the rubber. But all the clips were perfectly fine and not one was ever replaced. The only reason I could see you needing new clips now is if someone let the hyfax wear through at some point in its life.
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Thanks for the detailed response. At 4,500km's I had the sled serviced and all suspension parts, idler wheels, bearings, sliders etc. where inspected and replaced if necessary. I just wasn't sure the lifespan of a track and clips.

I know the clips rust up quick, and after riding they look clean. So if you got 12k on your track I should still be in good shape, since I have about 6K on mine.



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Exactly consider the price of clips and tool to the replacement cost of track, also if you do need new clips only, the track doesnt need to come off to do it just loosen it way up and go nuts :bash: it is time consuming but even possible without the "proper tools" the hardest part is getting the old ones off, thats where the removal tool would be good at least, but I'll bet yours are fine!
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Exactly consider the price of clips and tool
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i'm sure the best tool you can buy is under $100.00 at royal and it comes with the dies for every clip size.
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Old 01-30-2005, 08:15 AM   #7
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Clipped mine this year..all 96 of them. Took about two hours and a $100. bucks for clips and new hifax. I had the tools to remove and install. $100. was much cheaper than a $500. 1.25 snowcross track, let alone the 144 1.325's down the middle.
If you plan on riding the next 20+ years, you will use the tool again, either on your sled or somebody you know.

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