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05-21-2005, 06:09 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Where I sled: michigan
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Well the leaf has been turned, as of mon i start my new job. With this change i get a sign on bonus and my rev will be here in 3wks w00t  . When my baby gets home here ill be morfing it to a gade . My ? is , would a 136x15x1.5 fully cliped track be a good choice for a 05 500 ss ?. I had a 136x1.25 every 3rd window 6 pitch on my 00 500 and loved it . The reason im asking is i found the 1.5 track cheaper than the 1.25, but woundering if it would be to much for it. Which is better full clipped or every 3rd ? Ill will be going with a 6 pitch design no matter what , i loved the way it bites and pulls through the deep stuff.
yes, ill be dropping a tooth also when i make the swap .
Our riding style is 60/40 (ditch banging / groomed trails). Im not worried about top end , i want more low end grunt 0-60 is my sweet spot . I would just go with the 1.25 cuz i know it worked awsome on my zx ,but im watching the $$ since im going to be morfing 2 revs into gades this yr .Im really leaning towrards the 1.5 for the good price and a bit more in lug size , but ! would i be killing myself for the bigger lug ?
Im also thinking the fully clipped track would help in hyfax wear and cooling benifits .Ive herd that they have less rolling resitance than the every 3rd window tracks also. What are your thoughts ?
Thanks ,
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05-21-2005, 10:34 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Edgerton/St Germain, Wisconsin
Mileage: 900 miles
Primary Sled: '01 Polaris 600 EDGE X
Where I sled: St Germain, WI
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A 1.5" track is too tall for groomed trails. Unless you ride in the mountains, you dont need a 1.5".
A 1.25 will work just fine for ditchbanging/groomed trails. The longer skid should greatly improve your traction and should give you the added 0-60 performance you are after.
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05-21-2005, 04:35 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: russell mb
Mileage: 1100 miles
Primary Sled: 02 prox 440 liq
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i use a 1.5 on groomed and i love it, i think i only tore a couple lugs off
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05-21-2005, 04:56 PM
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oldslowsledder
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Parry Sound,Ontario
Primary Sled: 2010 GSX, wife 08 Vector
Where I sled: North of Parry Sound
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Is it cheaper to modify a Rev into a 'gade' or just buy one?? I think that's what your doing? Just curious.
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05-21-2005, 07:21 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Where I sled: michigan
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Quote:
Originally posted by CORY9@May 21 2005, 06:56 PM
Is it cheaper to modify a Rev into a 'gade' or just buy one?? I think that's what your doing? Just curious.
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The whole reason im morfing to a gade is i want a gade but not the H.O mill. If doo made a 500ss gade i would buy it, I want the 500ss mill (rock soild mill).
I was really thinking of the 1.5, but after mulling it around ill probly end up w/ 1.25 . i did really like my zx w/ 1.25 . It was the price on the 1.5 that had me going . We doo run into alot of low snow areas here in mi and i really wont like seeing lugs missing after all the work and money spent .Just SNOW4MYDOO will have to work some ot for her track
OK ANOTHER ?/ fully clipped?? or every 3rd window ?
Isnt the fully clipped better for rolling resestance . or is it a hand off w/ wt differance . the fully clipped is apox 3lbs heavier than the 3rd window track . isnt that why doo went to the 3rd window track ?
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05-21-2005, 07:51 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Burt Mi--Between Flint & Saginaw
Mileage: 1900
Primary Sled: 05 Renegade-X 600SDI w/1.75 track
Where I sled: I like to find the fun spots were nobody else would go
Posts: 3,413
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My Gade track (1.75 lug) is fully clipped as is my bros Gade with the 1.25 lug track. I've had both styles of tracks, my Ripsaw had every third closed, and really have never notice a difference. I makes sense that there would be more lube with the fully clipped design but I never notice more or less where with either.
As far as a 1.5 on trail, I think you would love it. I ride my 1.75 off trail all day and then as soon as night falls we hit the trails. The track hooks up awsome on the trail but does have some vibration due to the lug size. This may not even be an issue for the 1.5. With the right gearing the 500ss will have plenty of power for the Gade 1.5 gade conversion.
Good luck J
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05-22-2005, 06:59 AM
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well since this track thing has been on my mind alot . I also was wondering about the rear axle wheels. Should i go to a bigger wheel than stock ? Iwant to go all blk idlers for the look ,but would the bigger wheels be better for the hyfax issues the revs already have? not to mention strtching it 7 1/2" . I dont want to put a 3rd set of idlers towrards the back . I like to open look , makes it look longer than it is .
Basiclly the gade conversion is the only major mod im going to do to it other then the grafics to make it one of a kind . Theres so many ideas to choose from im just trying to get the list together and get ordering so when i get the sled i can get to work . Basiclly when it comes home its getting stripped down to the chassi and mill, then start building it back together w/ the mods .
JASONF: you live in my neck of the woods . Do you know of anyone that anodize,s alum in the area thats reasonable ? im thinking of doing my rails while its out.
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05-22-2005, 04:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Burt Mi--Between Flint & Saginaw
Mileage: 1900
Primary Sled: 05 Renegade-X 600SDI w/1.75 track
Where I sled: I like to find the fun spots were nobody else would go
Posts: 3,413
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Originally posted by snowmutt@May 22 2005, 08:59 AM
JASONF: you live in my neck of the woods . Do you know of anyone that anodize,s alum in the area thats reasonable ? im thinking of doing my rails while its out.
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Sorry, I don't but that would be a great idea. Let me know if you find someone, I might do mine.
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05-23-2005, 05:49 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Pontiac Lk Mi/Gaylord Mi
Mileage: 3200
Primary Sled: 07 ApexRTX, 06 IQ600 HO
Where I sled: Pontiac Lake (SE Lower)/Northern Lower Michigan
Posts: 2,560
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The fully clipped tracks are required for runing the extrovert drive wheels - not something you'll likely be needing with the sled you are talking about. Same with the large rear idlers. If you like the looks of them, and can afford the switch, go for it. But to justify their expense will take a little bit, at least in my opinion.
Glad to see you are back on the 1.25 lugs as preferred. Are you going to have trouble getting used to a sled that will NOT slide the back end around in the corners?
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05-24-2005, 07:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by michahicks@May 23 2005, 07:49 PM
The fully clipped tracks are required for runing the extrovert drive wheels - not something you'll likely be needing with the sled you are talking about.* Same with the large rear idlers. If you like the looks of them, and can afford the switch, go for it. But to justify their expense will take a little bit, at least in my opinion.
Glad to see you are back on the 1.25 lugs as preferred. Are you going to have trouble getting used to a sled that will NOT slide the back end around in the corners?
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Thanks for the info on the fully clipped skin. I was just thinking while i had it apart to put the bigger wheels on. Thought it would help out a issue rev,s are having w/ rear hyfax wear thats been mention this past yr on the sc-3,s. Plus if im making it even longer ?and i dont want to put extra idlers in it .
ill be going w/ a 1.25 6 pitch design i loved it on my zx 500.
Not sliding around ?? my zx would hang out in the cornners i loved it , but when you wanted it to rail them it would . I notice it would want to walk the back out from time to time (not the side to side wash ). More of a digging push feel ,but still have control in the front .
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