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10-26-2005, 05:16 PM
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journeyman sled/motorhead
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana/Irons michigan
Mileage: 282
Primary Sled: 06 renegade 800 HO
Where I sled: Irons michigan,or where there is snow
Posts: 4,440
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what would any of you do when asked to do your job for 60-75 percent less with huge med costs out of pocket less than 2 weeks after they announced giving the ceo a 3 million signing bonus? not to mention the many others that got 1-2 million to stay on. but hey steve miller is going to work the next year for only 1 dollar, don't make me puke. I would work for the next 10 years for 1 dollar, ohh heck free, if you gave me a 3 million signing bonus. now the key to my anger the workers are being told they do not deserve the wages they are making, but the ceo and other big shots that have taken the company stock from much more than 20 dollars a share to around 1 do? what gives steve? you took them into bankruptcy and now you earned 3 million bonus  ? I can say not, and most share holders will agree. now the thing to look for is the 40's sit down strike to come to your plants, after all thats the wage you want to pay right? just quickly figure how many years you will work to get 3 million, for me to live in the plant 7 days 12 hours I might get it in 30 years. mind you at the wages I make not their offer to their people. IN solidarity I stand. lucky for me its across the street.
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10-26-2005, 05:48 PM
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oldslowsledder
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Parry Sound,Ontario
Primary Sled: 2010 GSX, wife 08 Vector
Where I sled: North of Parry Sound
Posts: 6,488
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Feel for you, here's hoping for the best.
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Son 2012 Nytro XTX
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10-26-2005, 06:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Western New York
Mileage: 1819
Primary Sled: 2007Yamaha Attak
Where I sled: Western New York
Posts: 2,248
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I have several friends working at Delphi-they are the largest employer in Niagara County-we are all worried-if they close the plant everyone loses. I think they need to hold the white collar execs liable for the mismanagement of funds. The workers I know say they can do health care or a pay cut-there's no way to survive both.
If the plant closes or the workers get cut in pay, the bankruptcies will kill the tax base and the real estate market and end up costing the rest of us even more in our over-taxed area.
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10-26-2005, 06:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Burt Mi--Between Flint & Saginaw
Mileage: 1900
Primary Sled: 05 Renegade-X 600SDI w/1.75 track
Where I sled: I like to find the fun spots were nobody else would go
Posts: 3,413
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I'm right in the middle here where I live, Flint and Saginaw are big Delphi towns. I have friends that work in management and friends that work the line, its tough too takes any sides. I'm hoping things get resolved very quickly or many people like myself in smaller businesses are going to get pinched as well.
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10-26-2005, 06:53 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Mid-Michigan
Primary Sled: 05 REV 500ss Adrenaline/extended
Where I sled: U.P-Northwest lower
Posts: 9,075
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dooman......We are thinking of you and all the Delphi employees... Rick ( snowmutt ) worked at the Saginaw Delphi plant #3 until last may when he transferred out and back to GM. Rick started at the coldwater plant which closed down and that's when he went to Delphi but he had GM flow back rights and he used them ( thankfully ) last Spring.
We have many friends still at the Delphi plant up there in Saginaw and are worried for them as well. These are people who work Hard for the pay they get and have bills that's matched the income they are getting today, how can they afford to be cut 60% and make it??
We were very lucky, but our thoughts are for everyone this is going to effect.. Not just Delphi employees but like Jason said....its going to trickle down and effect alot of people.
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10-26-2005, 07:17 PM
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journeyman sled/motorhead
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana/Irons michigan
Mileage: 282
Primary Sled: 06 renegade 800 HO
Where I sled: Irons michigan,or where there is snow
Posts: 4,440
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dooman works for daimlerchryslers kokomo trans plant, which is across the highway from the world head quarters for the delphi safety, and original radio plants , which my father retired from. luckily he got the gm benefits, so his widow I worry less about.
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10-26-2005, 07:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hoosier-ville
Primary Sled: Tcat
Where I sled: WI and da UP
Posts: 3,107
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Not to get too deep in this, but I am one of those who think linemen(& women) are paid graciously for their work. However, this monster was created over many years and the CEO's should take as big a cut as the employees are asked to take...if not more. It just kills me to see heads of a company ask the employees to sacrifice, but then you see the heads still living the lives they've become used to.
The Ford plant here in St Louis is down to one shift, and the Chrysler plant is threatening to pull out if the city of Fenton doesn't bend over and give them million$ in tax incentives.....I bet if they're given the incentives, the CEO's will still receive their cushy salaries and bonus'. :hallo1:
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10-26-2005, 07:25 PM
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journeyman sled/motorhead
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana/Irons michigan
Mileage: 282
Primary Sled: 06 renegade 800 HO
Where I sled: Irons michigan,or where there is snow
Posts: 4,440
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jim I hear you but remember your mini vans did not get cheaper when they saved those big bucks building them in mexico, my truck sure did not get cheaper coming from mexico instead of from my fellow bros in st louis, thats a fact. if any of you get savings from having your american branded vehicle built in mexico for 2.30 /hr please speak now I will drop my protest. I have a link to local paper http://www.kokomoperspective.com
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10-26-2005, 07:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Where I sled: ny
Posts: 125
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I work at american axle and have been watching very closely to what goes on with Delphi.I hope the members get a fair deal as far as wages/benefits go.I think we all realize we need to cut costs to compete with the import market, but lets be realistic.Higher co pays and reduced coverage,reduced pensions are things we can expect but a 60% pay cut is just crazy.Delphi is on of the worlds largest automotive suppiers,i would think if they all stick together they should be able to strike a fair deal.Good luck,best wishes to all.
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10-26-2005, 08:51 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hoosier-ville
Primary Sled: Tcat
Where I sled: WI and da UP
Posts: 3,107
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jim I hear you but remember your mini vans did not get cheaper when they saved those big bucks building them in mexico, my truck sure did not get cheaper coming from mexico instead of from my fellow bros in st louis, thats a fact. if any of you get savings from having your american branded vehicle built in mexico for 2.30 /hr please speak now I will drop my protest. I have a link to local paper http://www.kokomoperspective.com
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I hear ya Barry...corporate greed and disfunctional management need to be taken care of with a short rope and a tall tree.
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